TWG 195 - D6

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 195 - D6

This is foolish optimism and we both know that. Xelnya comes and goes as he pleases and there ain't a damn thing we can do/say about it.

nuh-uh!
the more pressure on a player, the most likely they show up!
its the power of the vote!
I know, lewdy, I know

[Shadow_God_10]

Re: TWG 195 - D6

Shadow, if you were a wolf...

And you knew that your night kill got blocked...

And you knew that xel was going to show up and take credit for vigi'ing zenith...

And you knew that as soon as that happened you'd be lynched and the game would be over...

You would just concede right now and spare us from having to wait it out, right?

Absolutely. I would've conceded hours ago

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 195 - D6

Shadow, if you were a wolf...

And you knew that your night kill got blocked...

And you knew that xel was going to show up and take credit for vigi'ing zenith...

And you knew that as soon as that happened you'd be lynched and the game would be over...

You would just concede right now and spare us from having to wait it out, right?

I do not approve of this line of questioning from a moral standpoint

[Shadow_God_10]

Re: TWG 195 - D6

nuh-uh!
the more pressure on a player, the most likely they show up!
its the power of the vote!
I know, lewdy, I know

Okay I'll play along

Xel come out and tell us who you shot so I can die

[fatfuck42]

Re: TWG 195 - D6

I do not approve of this line of questioning from a moral standpoint

Uh oh...how come?

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 195 - D6

Uh oh...how come?

I don't really think its fair to ask someone if they would've conceded in a specific spot

it just feels unsportsmanlike

[fatfuck42]

Re: TWG 195 - D6

I don't really think its fair to ask someone if they would've conceded in a specific spot

it just feels unsportsmanlike

Oh, shit, yeah, I see what you mean.

[fatfuck42]

Re: TWG 195 - D6

Sorry about that, Shadow. I wasn't thinking there.

[Shadow_God_10]

Re: TWG 195 - D6

Sorry about that, Shadow. I wasn't thinking there.

It's okay! Don't worry about it

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG 195 - D6

Yeah i get what your saying sunfan

My list is ultimately a distraction in what could very well be a mechanic locked game depending on xel.

Its overall not productive to pursue that line of thinking because it's really not necessary as of now.

Thanks for reading it and giving your thoughts

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 195 - D6

its not even that the game might be mechanically locked, its that we don't know whether zenith was a vig shot or a mafia kill, and we won't until xel's schedule allows him to open the thread for more than 10 minutes

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 195 - D6

the post is a good post, Freezin
its just made under the assumption that zenith was a wolfkill, which he plausibly wasn't

[fatfuck42]

Re: TWG 195 - D6

I think I'm in the same boat as everyone else right now. Wait for xel to show up, if he's the vigi then there we go, if not then there's 3 confirmed towns and 5 other people for us non-confirmeds to figure out (since we already know our own alignment).

I'm going to reread the thread post-xel and make a reads list, but atm my general feeling is I'm probably tunneling too hard on my sunfan read. If it's not him then it's between choof, FG, and wv.

I think if zenith was a nightkill then it was either because of PR hunting or because xiz is maybe townreading them? Or at least not interested in them. A zenith NK makes the most sense coming from choof, but in the thread I feel his responses to pressure and the passion behind those responses are genuine. The self voting felt like more of a wolf play, though.

There's always the potential too that wolf sunfan saw a beneficial reason to kill zenith over xiz and is talking in-thread about how bad of a play it was in order to throw us off his trail, but I can't imagine what that beneficial reason would be.

Without rereading the thread yet, my impression of FG is that she's UTR but otherwise playing it "safe," and WV is more involved and active and working on solving but otherwise playing it "safe." By safe, I mean a by-the-books kind of town play, doing what they're supposed to do and that's that. Does that make sense? Of the group, I think WV has the most "wolf doing well at coming across as town" vibe.

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 195 - D6

its not as simple as shadow_god always being mafia if Xel claims vig

mafia can stack on zenith (which is hard for me to imagine)
mafia can no-kill (which is also really bad, but I suppose it exists if someone can't see ahead)

[fatfuck42]

Re: TWG 195 - D6

its not as simple as shadow_god always being mafia if Xel claims vig

mafia can stack on zenith (which is hard for me to imagine)
mafia can no-kill (which is also really bad, but I suppose it exists if someone can't see ahead)

True, but if xel claims vig then I can't see us lynching anyone other than shadow, even if it turns out he's legit.