TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game Thread)

[rzr]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D3)

ahh damn that's true -- but you are the only one who would default to a no kill. for example, we both know if they jail me again tonight you would no kill to force the lynch on me and - game.
I'm not saying botchi isn't the last wolf, I'm just saying unless the kills have been concidentally overlapping you're the only one I'd peg to make a no kill

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D3)

ahh damn that's true -- but you are the only one who would default to a no kill. for example, we both know if they jail me again tonight you would no kill to force the lynch on me and - game.
I'm not saying botchi isn't the last wolf, I'm just saying unless the kills have been concidentally overlapping you're the only one I'd peg to make a no kill

pretty sure you posted earlier that I wouldn't do that

[rzr]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D3)

I've thought about this quite a lot this weekend, talking with the wife and what not. I'm torn on botchi vs sunfan - though I'm inclined to call the last scum sunfan, I'm looking back at all the links from Red Blaster's post. Indeed it's gonna play out like this if I can't convince you guys I'm town (also it's painfully obvious none of you remaining have played a game with me as scum):

remaining: me, sunfan, botchi
pr: gradiant, red blaster
scum: MML

we lynch him, duh. then you guy have to decide between me, sunfan and botchi. It breaks my damn heart I can't convince you what's obvious to me, but I'll try.

so you go in to tonight and I thought about some stuff. What was done to sunfan? Because he obviously did a no kill again, he's the only one that really mentioned it, I'm still digging back on that. But I also asked myself, in a game with essentially 2 seers and a guardian, any wolf would know to kill the guard so you can open the rest up - but I think only sunfan would be smart enough to go after the cop.

So moving on, we go into tomorrow and let's assume you don't jail sunfan/botchi so there is a kill whoever it is, we'll call the remaining player PR1. So it's
remaining: me, sunfan, botchi
PR: PR1

obviously, to me and one other person it's between x/y, and the other one knows. I wanted to recap on the night actions because wasn't sunfan seered or something? anyway, say you guys don't believe me and lynch me, go into the next night

botchi/sunfan/PR1

botchi/sunfan kills the PR, game over. I'm not 100% on either one of them, I'm looking back at botchi's interaction with DBP, I'm looking back at sunfan/DBP, and sunfan/zenith. this shall be an interesting day

I also said let's assume there is a no kill, because that's the only way to seal the deal on me and get me lynched. I've written this about 4 times so far this game and decided not to post it, but I'll spill it now:
I always frown upon people asking/telling the PR's what to do, but I do suggest that you guys keep in mind I've been jailed twice in a row (I think?), I'm not opposed to it - I just wish we could get a more accurate reading on sunfan here.

I have no fucking clue how to say what I'm trying to say >.>

[rzr]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D3)

One thing I will say with confidence here is I don't think Red should say who he's jailing at all so scum has to flip a coin on their no kill attempt

[rzr]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D3)

hi botchiiiii

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D3)

One thing I will say with confidence here is I don't think Red should say who he's jailing at all so scum has to flip a coin on their no kill attempt

something something not telling the PRs what to do, huh?

Anyways, its not a good idea because if there is a kill on Red Blaster, then we don't know who we can clear based on his death.

[rzr]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D3)

at the same time it leaves the no kill as scum's only real option, does tracker get a reading if no kill is selected? if so I say they jail/track you lol

and I said I didn't like anyone telling the PR's what to do - but this is a situation where I have to provide my input, if I'm lynched tomorrow the game is over

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D3)

if you're lynched tomorrow assuming a no kill takes place tonight, then the game isn't over

[rzr]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D3)

also, a wolf who would opt to no kill would have to feel very confident they could remain undetetced, or at least unlynched, for long enough to make it worth it

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D3)

also, no, if someone is jailed, the tracker will always get some equivalent of "visited no one" as their result

and, if you're jailed tonight and a kill takes place, you never get lynched tomorrow anyways, so lynching you actually can't end the game

[YoshL]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D3)

Votes from post 3607 to post 3700
Night in 7:43:06
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 3 -- MixMasterLar -- Gradiant (23), Red Blaster (15), botchi246 (3)
• 3 -- not voting -- MixMasterLar (14), rzr (8), thesunfan (26)

[rzr]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D3)

Greg, what do you think of botchi's check in and not commenting? I find you both hard to read, and I'm torn between you two - I'd like to know your thoughts too

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D3)

Greg, what do you think of botchi's check in and not commenting? I find you both hard to read, and I'm torn between you two - I'd like to know your thoughts too

I believe that you are the wolf over him. His tone has been very pure to me, he hasn't really had any awkward interactions with any of the wolves that I can see, whereas you've had a few weaker moments, like your very early interaction where you were talking about whether or not people were thinking there was one between charu and yourself.

He's just had a more human game, is the short answer.

[rzr]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D3)

I'm going to have to stop posting on d1 - or go back to strictly memes lol. I'm not sure how to further justify myself other than to say that at that time on d1 there was essentially nothing going on but welcomes, obligatory VT, and shitposting, so with Charu going at me (even if it was just for fun) I figured people's perspectives of us would yield more info about the people posting their opinions that the info thought to have been gained by myself/charu
I'm not sure the association here, but I do have to make a case for the PR's. Although, from a 3rd party POV I don't see myself as a better scum read just because of the interactions between Zenith/myself and DBP/myself.
I mean, I know it can be called distancing, but you'd have to say I've been "distancing" from a lot of people at that point. That and I never hop on a wagon (though that Zenith one was juicy). DBP went at me as hard as he was with Reuben, and just like with Reuben he started off saying going after either of us would be foolish are we are easy to push a lynch on.
I dont think I need to explain Zenith lol - but pick the interactions apart if you want.

And I suppose I owe you the respect for your opinion of giving mine a bit, which I would say I want to say you're the wolf between you two, but the evidence against botchi/DBP partenrship is undeniable.

Also, I think it would be more obvious that if MML flips as DBP's partner instead of Zenith's (though I've been calling him that for 2 days lol), it would further cement my case that you'd be scummy, since I take Zenith's interactions with botchi as real tunneling before, leading me to put you in partnership with Z.
Furthemore, I know it's factually irrelevant, but that list I posted a few days ago of all the possible partners based on interaction, the name that showed up the most was yours, followed by MML I believe. So from my POV you'd be statistically more likely than botchi

[rzr]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D3)

I also feel like my posts quality/detective work have been up to par this game, though several players have said this is not the case lol