TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (Game Thread)

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

Yes but I can be wrong about two of my reads

Lurker (I nearly have to townread him due to bet)

and

MixMasterLar (Because nobody still has given me scumworthy reasons so I consider him town right now)

if lurker is mafia then rip

because his one mafia game was completely different from this game

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

Example - I see no reason to clear choof anymore, but I am open to it, I think I missed something.

he hardclaimed jaillkeeper, everyone has been to thread since and should be aware of it and there are no counterclaims

there's the tinfoil I've been waiting for

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

All 3 of your confirmed town I would like to hear more about.
Example - I see no reason to clear choof anymore, but I am open to it, I think I missed something.
AA/lurker........ why are they clear? I've seen AA play his scum game just as well and fool me completely

As for Gradiant, I'm in no way trying to defend him, I just still don't see what you're talking about and would like clarification as he's one of the least active players imo

Choof - Hardclaimed Jailkeeper; Choof was previously my locked clear town beforehand and I absolutely believe the hardclaim even without Red Blaster confirming.

AA - Cleared on the fact we had a discussion very early on and I can establish a read on him from that which was a town lean. Mindmelds starting coming left and right and we both nearly mutually locked cleared ourselves in our opinions from massive mindmeld and no, it is not sheeping or pocketing.

Lurker - Just mentioned him, town read because bet, can be wrong but I'm not looking into Lurker right now.

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

MML any thoughts?

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

To elaborate on AA, we can't be sheeping each other when we have both in multiple instances started an opinion and then admitted we agreed with it (and this excludes metaread). Sheeping imo goes one way, not two ways.

[rzr]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

first things first,

Zenith, since we both toned back I'm already enjoying this game a lot more, thank you amigo and again I'm sorry just glad we're moving forward

Second, thank you for clarifying on your clearings. I'm readin them now.

Third, AA, what do you now think of me? This is important because those who are clearing people need to be documented to some degree since there are 2 teams.

MixMasterLar (Because nobody still has given me scumworthy reasons so I consider him town right now)

Finally, Zenith, I am working on a case for MML right now. I'm currently about 2/3'rd done iso'ing him for

[rzr]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

If Zenith is town I think we can solve this game

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

7. MixMasterLar - Town lean (I seriously don't even want to touch him because new player)

on this read

I'm ok with leaving MML for later because I think we can correctly read him if needed

what I'm worried about is that if he's town a more experienced player might be able to twist a read on him and make him look bad

reminds me of my first game when sunfan was a wolf with storn and sunfan pushed on helphelp in F3

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

first things first,

Zenith, since we both toned back I'm already enjoying this game a lot more, thank you amigo and again I'm sorry just glad we're moving forward

Second, thank you for clarifying on your clearings. I'm readin them now.

Third, AA, what do you now think of me? This is important because those who are clearing people need to be documented to some degree since there are 2 teams.


Finally, Zenith, I am working on a case for MML right now. I'm currently about 2/3'rd done iso'ing him for

I'm still null on you, your reads list is kind of meh until I see substantial reasoning behind it

I did see a towntell which makes me feel a bit better about you but I'm holding off until your big post

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

on this read

I'm ok with leaving MML for later because I think we can correctly read him if needed

what I'm worried about is that if he's town a more experienced player might be able to twist a read on him and make him look bad

reminds me of my first game when sunfan was a wolf with storn and sunfan pushed on helphelp in F3

To counter this, lynching botchi would make me feel a whole lot better on MML to tell you the truth.

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

I keep saying this because it's exactly how I feel about newer players

they don't deserved to be touched unless they seriously messed up with a scumtell or got peeked or viewed by a PR that can say they aren't town

If MML happens to be anti-town here I'm definitely taking an extended break lmao

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

the biggest thing i don't like about MML at this point is how it still feels like he hasn't contributed (like now when he's just lurking) and its' been sheep sheep sheep

I can understand sheeping as a new player but it feels like he's hanging back

[rzr]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

what I'm worried about is that if he's town a more experienced player might be able to twist a read on him and make him look bad

most towny post imo from you so far - helps quite a bit as far as me placing you. Esp since it's against my main suspect for now.

Do you think botchi and MML could be linked, as Zenith is starting to say? I'm not so sure personally, it's hard to shake my previous conclusions on Zenith/dbp, so if Zenith is gonna have to go in the town pool for now then I'm not sure which, out of MML/botchi, I would set next to DBP. I guess what I'm saying is do you think MML/botchi are a pair , if so, why, and if not do you think either of them could be paired with DBP? If so, why

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

It's Gradiant

[rzr]

Re: TWG CXLVII - Read The Setup. (People have Died. D2)

If MML happens to be anti-town here I'm definitely taking an extended break lmao

It's more about clearing newbs. I admit last game I was very histant to go after BB, Haku, or Drizzle. But also it's the main reason I give botchi crap regularly

MML is worth a re eval here. And generally speaking w/o enough of a case yet, I'd be willing to see botchi on the block as opposed to MML for that exact reason, Z. However, let's actually compare this game to botchi's previous: I don't think he's had enough time to start constructing preconceived meta's to a) change his own or b) change our perception. I just don't think he has. That said, I don't see anything worth lynching simply because he's not too far outta his meta.

Also worth a re eval