The Etterna Project

[shakesoda]

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what's with the dramaposting

it's obvious that something is wrong here with the devs vs community situation, and apparently the devs vs other devs situation, but we don't seem to get wind of anything until people have already gone off on explosive rants on their respective random communities.

most things about the game have reasoning behind them or are perhaps just a legacy and should be fixed, and optimizations that don't cause breakage in the stable branch are welcome.

we take criticism if you give it to us, but hardly anyone comes around to tell us actual problems in any actionable way (sometimes we get people just calling us horrible people [thanks, appreciate it] or throwing context-free crash logs at us, which we can't do anything about).

please just talk to us normally on github/irc. if you don't want to deal with kyz, deal with me instead.

p.s. high framerates are cool but things like that 1ms thread sleep do exist for a reason (taking all resources makes everything else on the system lag), if you need it disabled I'd accept a PR for a preference.

[MinaciousGrace]

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you're pulling me in the drama between you and kyz becasue???? wtf did I ever do to you mate, also apology to this comunity, I never said anything negative, I was always on you guys side, I dont like kyz nor did I like what he said

not cool mang

in real shaming in the first place isnt cool so I agree with that, also ya didnt make me look like shit, just kyz the only code from me in sm5 is for noteskins and I dont think I did anything wrong there :V


I didnt start shit nor will I, also I'm sure he hasnt read it cuz everytime I tried to talk to him about your post he keeps saying he hasnt and wont so yeah :V

oop well if that's the case my bad i've had both of you mixed together in my head for a while now and that's unfair. To be honest I would much rather be actively working with devs rather than clashing and having to do/figure out everything on my own. But we can't always have nice things.

in other news preview of fpsmanias???

clearly 2500 fps is gratuitous however the aim was to make the game lightweight enough that you could stream it while alt tabbed out of overcrysiswatch4ever with no noticeable impact on performance

in my experience an average framerate of 1000 gives you plenty enough leeway to protect against any would be spikes and this further extra margin opens up pretty much a hedonistic level of possible features/overlays, even for people who aren't running 1080s

in fact i'm pretty sure this game now runs better than any 3.95 build ever did and even those with modest to pathetic (i don't mean that in a derogatory sense i just mean your pc sucks shit and therefore you do) rigs should be able to stream without it adversely affecting gameplay, or also, not-stream without it adversely affecting gameplay

the edits to the base code at least on my part are pretty much done for this cycle of development and all that's left is for me to test it a bit to make sure its stable

the changes will be pushed momentarily and hopefully by sometime tomorrow the next alpha release of the build will be available

i've done some-but-not-very-many updates to the theme itself and the current working alpha version of it will also be released when the build is and IMPORTANT: you must be using the new build in order for the theme to function

i mean you dont need to be if you're savvy enough to find out where the build dependencies are and modify them but shit why wouldnt you cmonBruh

assuming there are no major bugs in either the build or the theme the project is more or less ready to exit alpha phase into early stable release phase where updates can be added without fundamentally changing things so now that i'm not spending every waking hour poking at c++ code bug reporting would actually be appreciated!!!

tl;dr nice things coming 4u guys retroactively put yourselves on the nice list ok

edit: while initially it was my intent to savagely shred apart everything in the code i found useless or didn't like I didn't end up doing that; any functionality in the 5.0.12 build this was forked from should be retained though enough has changed that I wouldn't be surprised if there were bugs (particularly concerning mod maps). Any themes that functioned on the aforementioned build should also work so you dont have to use mine if its 2 cool 4 u.

[Jousway]

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It's pretty amazing both of your capacities for infinite shamelessness and bullshit. You each owe the this community a massive apology and you know it.

you're pulling me in the drama between you and kyz becasue???? wtf did I ever do to you mate, also apology to this comunity, I never said anything negative, I was always on you guys side, I dont like kyz nor did I like what he said

not cool mang

This was never about making you guys look like shit. This was about making the game play up to the reasonable standards I was pretty sure it could. You made yourselves look like shit. I could have plastered all the flaws and hilarious inefficiencies in specifically kyz's code on reddit with his real name all over it, but I didn't, because that wasn't the point.

in real shaming in the first place isnt cool so I agree with that, also ya didnt make me look like shit, just kyz the only code from me in sm5 is for noteskins and I dont think I did anything wrong there :V

You guys wanna come here and start shit then you better be fucking sure you can handle a single jab.

ps. both you and I know he read that post get outta here LOL

I didnt start shit nor will I, also I'm sure he hasnt read it cuz everytime I tried to talk to him about your post he keeps saying he hasnt and wont so yeah :V

[MinaciousGrace]

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to bad kyz will never read mina's post because he blocked ffr in his host file lawl

It's pretty amazing both of your capacities for infinite shamelessness and bullshit. You each owe the this community a massive apology and you know it.

This was never about making you guys look like shit. This was about making the game play up to the reasonable standards I was pretty sure it could. You made yourselves look like shit. I could have plastered all the flaws and hilarious inefficiencies in specifically kyz's code on reddit with his real name all over it, but I didn't, because that wasn't the point.

You guys wanna come here and start shit then you better be fucking sure you can handle a single jab.

ps. both you and I know he read that post get outta here LOL

[Leo137]

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to bad kyz will never read mina's post because he blocked ffr in his host file lawl

didn't he had blocked before that and unblocked it just to see his newer posts?

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[Dinglesberry]

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Lol why is it always about calling x shit or y garbage or whatever

Doesn't anyone just care about fixing the game? Hell if I was one of the devs for stepmania I'd be able to understand Minas style and be happy the game is going to get better but eh what do I know

[Jousway]

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to bad kyz will never read mina's post because he blocked ffr in his host file lawl

[SpaceGorilla]

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can we not shit on sm devs even though they're worse programmers than children who've just been introduced to html

they don't deserve it tbh

[MinaciousGrace]

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yeah both the curve and how holds are dealt with need some (a lot?) of work

im wrapping up the last few major changes im making to the base code and then making a few more changes to the theme and hopefully within a day or two have a more stable release than whats out now

one of the major changes is that the chart key system is written entirely into c++, it's faster, more robust, done on load and cached with a bunch of other data; basically you do it each time you load a chart for the first time and you have seamless music select from that point forward

after that that the next priority is to go over the scoring system itself

[Guilhermeziat]

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Uh, Mina, about the NG holds giving -6 and missed holds aswell, I think that these punishments are too high for what a perfectly hit single note gives you (which is 2, if I'm not mistaken?).

What I was thinking was, why not make NG holds give -2, so that it would basically nullify a perfect hit (and still give penalties for non-perfect hits + NG)? I think that would make a bit more sense, since half of the note is the press and the other helf is the hold, right? Of course a held note would still give 0 though. About missed holds, I think it's better to disregard them, either by setting them to 0 or making the game understand that you only missed the note and there wasnt actually a hold there to be missed with it (no idea how that would be done), because missing the note will make you inevitably miss the hold, which would make you lose 13.5 points for a miss instead of the normal 7.5. This sounds a lot like the opposite of what happens on the DP system, which is hitting the note and inevitably completing the hold because the system is so lenient gives you 8 points instead of the normal 2 for a single arrow.

I hope I was clear enough with this suggestion and thanks in advance for making this!

[Guilhermeziat]

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cOOL.

[Gruzzly_Bear]

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*grabs popcorn*

[Dynam0]

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im red-blue colour blind anyway so..

[Dinglesberry]

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L0l definitely a good read.. They probably have a bubble sort to sort the song list or something too lolz

[EtienneSM]

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Oh shit.