Ingame Song Information

[TC_Halogen]

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I don't know how Halogen is calculating taps/second, but I would like to do it like this: (30 * number of arrows) (last frame of arrows - first frame of arrows + 1). This way the number of empty frames before the first arrow doesn't matter. I think this would change up the counts a bit. Also we should definitely consider some of the higher FMOs for the list.

I can reconsider the calculations tomorrow; I was just going by length/arrows, as JX was previously doing. I definitely agree with you quite a bit.

Also, I didn't include the 11s because I was pretty sure that none of them would make it onto the top 10 list anyway -- you've got to be moving pretty quickly to get that high up.

I'm going to go ahead and say that Reality's average TPS is incredibly deceiving, as the 77s figure takes into account the empty intro. Take off the 10 second radio announcement (or whatever) and you get 921 notes/67 seconds = 13.75 T/S, which is in line with most of the other FGOs listed. ERB has the same deal.

Yeah, I'm aware of this. I'll probably take the time off tomorrow to try and get a true value by using frame counts. Thanks for bringing that up, qqwref.

[jimerax]

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That looks more accurate, and better if it isn't difficult for you.

[qqwref]

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Also, I didn't include the 11s because I was pretty sure that none of them would make it onto the top 10 list anyway -- you've got to be moving pretty quickly to get that high up.

Ah, but your 10th place has 12.45 taps/second, so anything which consistently manages more than ~187bpm stream has a shot. It's not actually as fast as it sounds if the patterns are nice - a solid streamy file like FotBB/EHHS could potentially make the list.

I had a nice top 10 list back at the Tasselfoot forums a while back (before some new songs got released) but the forum isn't working right now. I actually already have a program to do the frame count stuff.

EDIT: Found it, thanks to Google Cache.
0. Vertex BETA vrofl: 25.65
1. Reluctantly Accepting Temporary Overexhaustion: 17.49
2. The Adventures of Lolo: 15.46
3. Death Piano: 14.70
4. Here We Go: 14.10
5. Kidney Stone: 13.62
6. Reality: 13.58
7. Winter Wind Etude: 13.46
8. Exciting Hyper Highspeed Star: 13.20
9. Eclipse (Solar): 13.15
10. Flight of the Bumblebee: 13.05

[JoeSauce]

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can some one tell me what the main song is when you load up the game as its playing in the background ? =) it would be greatly appreciated thanks!!

[TC_Halogen]

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Emotions, by Trance Control.

[JoeSauce]

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Why thank you kind sir.

[jimerax]

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Just did some genre tweaks, reduced the # of misc songs a bit, etc.

[HammyMcSquirrel]

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Sprite and I would usually update the FAQ with the current list of secret songs but we're just gonna put a link to this thread instead. With that said, I added Voodoo People to the list. I also put in the page links for the songs that didn't have them. I hope you don't mind.

On a side note... I don't know about you, Jimerax, but I get a slow response and sometimes database errors that require some refreshing to get past when I make edits to the OP. You may want to consider some way of breaking it up to have less characters. I ran across this problem with the pseudo token thread. The OP eventually contained so much information that I couldn't edit it. I had to break it up into multiple posts. It seems you may be getting to that point here.

[qqwref]

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Voodoo People is really hard for a 9 (lots of minijacks and some trills with jumps). I'd say it should absolutely be a 10. We'd need to wait a while to see how people are doing on it, but to me it is absolutely too hard for a 9.

[bmah]

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I thought it was a 9, IMO. Just be consistent. And if you don't like left-handed minijacks, you can always mirror and try the converse.

[who_cares973]

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no 9 should be harder than over the frail dream. if it is then its a 10

[qqwref]

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I thought it was a 9, IMO. Just be consistent.

Gee, I'm sorry I suck too much to easily low SDG 9s these days. But I guess I'm also good enough to low SDG plenty of songs that are two difficulties higher?

When we look at difficulties, we have to get past the mentality of thinking that anything you can easily do should be not much harder for lower-skilled players. If you find something easy, you won't be able to tell how hard it is for actual players, because you can't compare two things which are both trivial to you. I've seen people make that mistake with jumptrillable patterns, jacks, jumpstream, and color notes - and I think you're making it here.

And if you don't like left-handed minijacks, you can always mirror and try the converse.

Tried that. But it's still got left hand minijacks, and lots of right hand ones. And I shouldn't have to be mirroring a 9 to do well on it.

[who_cares973]

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no 9 should be harder than over the frail dream. if it is then its a 10

not just saying this just because, tass actually made it clear that otfd was suppose to be the hardest 9 in game

[bmah]

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Tried that. But it's still got left hand minijacks, and lots of right hand ones. And I shouldn't have to be mirroring a 9 to do well on it.

(non-mirror) It only has one set of right arrow jacks. The up jacks shouldn't be -as- hard as jacks on exterior arrows (the left and right) assuming a normal spread position, because your index fingers are stronger. So in actuality, the song is really quite one-sided.

Despite the jacks, I still think it's a 9, and that's my opinion.

[qqwref]

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WC: That's pretty funny, because at the current rate OTFD will soon be the *easiest* 9 in game.

bmah: You're free to have an opinion, but I do think it's biased by too much speed.