TWG XXIV: Calvin and Hobbes (Day 4!)

RE: TWG XXIV: Calvin and Hobbes


Recap: Talisman was guarded.

It is now DAY 1 \o/
This day will end Tuesday, November 29th at 9 o clock PM Eastern. That gives you guys 48+ hours. And if someone wants to change that to FFR time, be my guest.

Remainin' playaz:
1. nickadeemus (crevelkid)
2. Tasselfoot (Tasselfoot)
3. FishFishRevolution (insanelikeafish)
4. Tps222 (Tps7910)
5. blahblah18 (mastr414)
6. TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons (LightninSandwich)
7. Afrobean (ThisisAfrobean)
8. mattc16 (mattc16mcfc)
9. nforcer06164 (nforcer06164)
10. talisman (stressreliefball)
11. QreepyBORIS (QreepyBORIS)
12. lightdarkness (lightdarkness42)
13. Kilgamayan (bjstrattonIM)
14. evilbutterfly (evilbutterfly87)
15. HansSky (notsofaroff)
16. JurseyRider734 (xplatoniclove)

RE: TWG XXIV: Calvin and Hobbes

Oh snap.

Great job, guardian. You had a 1/15 chance of guarding the right person and you got him. That's pretty amazing.

RE: TWG XXIV: Calvin and Hobbes

Haha, sweet.

Alright, C+H, come to me, we'll get things started. For safety's sake I'm not sure if I should let you know who each other is right away (loooooooong shot possibility of a wolf faking it) but after a day I will. I'll accept opinions from the community on that one though. If I choose not to for today I will make sure you go to different rooms night two though, so don't worry about that.

RE: TWG XXIV: Calvin and Hobbes

Talisman, you do need to tell the blues who each other are. That's basically all you can do, since the wolves probably won't let you live for much longer, not with only a 2/3 chance of being guarded.

Just wait until just before this TWG day ends to tell them. That is most definitely the perfect amount of time, because any less and a real blue may not have contacted you, and any more and you risk getting wolfed before the info comes out.

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That's what I was planning on doing if I waited. Obviously they'll need to know who each other is by night two in case I die then.

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Also guys, don't forget about the gbin thread, alot of actual twg discussion ended up happening in it. It's worth a read for background info, anyway, even if the main debate is somewhat moot now.

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...wtopic&t=39073

RE: TWG XXIV: Calvin and Hobbes

Ok, well then that's decided... maybe we should get to talking about who the wolves are then, eh?

First of all, for anyone that missed it, there was quite a bit of TWG talk going down in the Gbin.

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...073&highlight=

Second of all, based on Tass's actions, as I clearly implied in that thread, I believe Tass to be a wolf.

Third of all, shut the hell up. I can vote for whomever I please.

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I'm still at Mom and Dad's house, so my computer access can be somewhat limited. Once I'm back at my dorm sometime tonight/this afternoon, I will be available on AIM and whatnot to chitty chat with everybody.

Until then, I'm not gonna think about TWG too much. :P

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What I don't get is what makes Tass's actions wolfish. Since there is no master wolf and he's asking to get seered, why would that make anyone think he could be something other than human? Sure, it arouses some suspicion, but that's the suspicion that can be cleared by actually seering him. I just can't understand why a wolf would do this unless they knew they would not get seered (especially Tass--if the wolves lost him and did not have any other power players on their side, they'd basically just be putting themselves on shaky ground right off the bat). Also, Tass is averse to wolf sacrifice (although he did do it to some extent one game, it would have guaranteed wolf victory--I don't think that is the case here).

On the flip side, if what Tass did was wolfish and I really did miss something (as could be the case), I don't see how it is any more incriminating than what Afro did. Afro also did it to a greater extent than did Tass. In addition, it would be more likely for the blues to seer Tass than Afro, meaning that Afro gains the bonus of looking human by asking to be seered (well, that part's obviously up to debate) and the blues never know for sure if he is a wolf, so he slips right under the radar. But if there is a big difference between what Afro and what Tass did, I'm really not seeing it.

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Qreepy... the difference was stated in the GB thread in the convo I had with Afro. Its now moot with Talisman being saved... but that is not the point.

Basically, I went to 10 players on AIM and said "seer me" then about 2 minutes later "PS - Guard me too " and I sent a PM to the 5 players who weren't on AIM with the title "seer me" and the message "thanks".

The point of this was to get things rolling from night 1 on a central alliance. It should be obvious that a central alliance is better than 2 seperate smaller alliances (main reasons being voting power and 2nd being that 2 small alliances could wind up attacking each other by mistake). Afro's actions after mine specifically counter-acted those goals. What he did was put doubt and confusion into my plan, which is flawless. How? By giving the blues 2 possible targets to seer instead of a unified one to go after. Therefore, 1 could go to me, 1 to Afro... and now you have 2 small alliances instead of 1 larger central one.

Add to that the fact that Afro did not take a single thing I said seriously in the GB thread, was completely idiotic in the few conversations I had with him on AIM, and his quick vote on me here for absolutely no reason. PLUS his retarded ideas of how it would be smart of me to act the way I'm acting as a wolf...

I want to give him the benefit of the doubt as just being bitter at being green and wanting to have some part of this game, but he's doing a fucking awful job of doing anything but causing tension and strife.

PS - Talisman, I have some AIM convos I'd like to show you and have some discussion with you... although I'm not at home ATM. I'll be in touch later tonight.

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I'll be the first to admit it. Asking to be seer'd is no real indication of one's role. I would have without a doubt responded to Tass's request for seering in the same way even if I was red.

The chink in the chain is that Tass isn't that good of a wolf and I don't know if he'd openly ask to be seer'd knowing full well that he probably would be. I mean, he does have a history of doing stupid crap while red (faking blue), but would he really do something like this that would without a doubt ensure his own death as a wolf just to slow an alliance?

i dunno lol

All I do is that it would be brilliant for someone to do that as a wolf, and Tass is always bragging about how good he is at TWG and how smart he is.

EDIT: I capitalized the I in "i dunno lol" on accident haha.

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And now you pretty much skip everything I said AND contradict your previous statements....


PS - I said this to at least one person on AIM... 2, I think. I said pre-game that I wanted to be seered. So, yes, I had to say something regarding it during this game... but if I didn't actually want to be seered, I'd have waiting til the game started and made some small comment about it so as to let it fly under the radar. NOT be so open about it. I still want to be seered in case Talisman dies... I can step in.


EDIT of my own - my PS statement somehow got into Afro's quote... I moved it out.

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1) I got no PM from Tass.
2) If I got an IM, I wouldn't know. If Tass paid any attention at all (aka: if he really cared much) he would know that.
3) Personally, I've always thought it true that when somebody says seer me the seer won't do that. The seer shouldn't just follow the whim of random strangers, and anybody saying "seer me lol" is just a random stranger telling the seer what to do. Especially given the 4/9 chance that the blues won't even get a chance to seer anybody, coming out as a red this game and saying "seer me" especially in what may seem like a not-super-serious manner, in my mind, reduces that person's chances of being seered. I don't see why you are all jumping on Afro for suggesting this possibility.
4) The thread in the G-Bin = he's obviously joking. I can't remember the last time I saw Chris be serious in the G-Bin. At least, not TWG-level serious.

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eb... agreed on Afro at first... but after 6 pages, the discussion got semi-serious if not completely serious.

also, I've asked to be seered multiple times before in past games, and usually have been. I see no reason why this game is any different.

I sent you IMs... you'll get them whenever you get home. *shrugs*

I jumped on Afro for his actions to me initially over AIM, which are posted in the GB. Everything else stemmed from there.