TWG XXIV: Calvin and Hobbes (Day 4!)

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  • flypie743
    FFR Player
    • Jun 2004
    • 3210

    #1

    TWG XXIV: Calvin and Hobbes (Day 4!)


    No offense to Fish or LD I just picked two random names. These names have nothing to do with role selection at all.

    Player list: FFR name (AIM name)
    1. nickadeemus (crevelkid)
    2. Tasselfoot (Tasselfoot)
    3. FishFishRevolution (insanelikeafish)
    4. Tps222 (Tps7910)
    5. blahblah18 (mastr414)
    6. TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons (LightninSandwich)
    7. Afrobean (ThisisAfrobean)
    8. mattc16 (mattc16mcfc)
    9. nforcer06164 (nforcer06164)
    10. talisman (stressreliefball)
    11. QreepyBORIS (QreepyBORIS)
    12. lightdarkness (lightdarkness42)
    13. Kilgamayan (bjstrattonIM)
    14. evilbutterfly (evilbutterfly87)
    15. HansSky (notsofaroff)
    16. JurseyRider734 (xplatoniclove)

    It is now Night 1. Roles are going out shortly.
    Then I will need PMs/AIM from the blues and the wolves.
    My screenname: flypie PhD

    EDIT:
    All roles are sent. Let me know if you didn't get one.
    PMs look like this:
    You are a blue (Calvin)
    You are a blue (Hobbes)
    You are human (A random strip character).
    You are a wolf (Susie/Miss Wormwood/Moe)

    IF YOU ARE THE BOMB YOU WILL CLICK THIS and if you dont, you suck.
  • flypie743
    FFR Player
    • Jun 2004
    • 3210

    #2
    RE: TWG XXIV: Calvin and Hobbes


    Recap: Talisman was guarded.

    It is now DAY 1 \o/
    This day will end Tuesday, November 29th at 9 o clock PM Eastern. That gives you guys 48+ hours. And if someone wants to change that to FFR time, be my guest.

    Remainin' playaz:
    1. nickadeemus (crevelkid)
    2. Tasselfoot (Tasselfoot)
    3. FishFishRevolution (insanelikeafish)
    4. Tps222 (Tps7910)
    5. blahblah18 (mastr414)
    6. TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons (LightninSandwich)
    7. Afrobean (ThisisAfrobean)
    8. mattc16 (mattc16mcfc)
    9. nforcer06164 (nforcer06164)
    10. talisman (stressreliefball)
    11. QreepyBORIS (QreepyBORIS)
    12. lightdarkness (lightdarkness42)
    13. Kilgamayan (bjstrattonIM)
    14. evilbutterfly (evilbutterfly87)
    15. HansSky (notsofaroff)
    16. JurseyRider734 (xplatoniclove)

    IF YOU ARE THE BOMB YOU WILL CLICK THIS and if you dont, you suck.

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    • JurseyRider734
      lil j the bad b-word
      • Aug 2003
      • 7506

      #3
      RE: TWG XXIV: Calvin and Hobbes

      Oh snap.

      Great job, guardian. You had a 1/15 chance of guarding the right person and you got him. That's pretty amazing.
      Originally posted by Arch0wl
      I'd better be considering I own roughly six textbooks on logic and have taken courses involving its extensive use

      Originally posted by Afrobean
      Originally Posted by JurseyRider734
      the fact that you're resorting to threatening physical violence says a lot anyway.
      Just that you're a piece of shit who can't see reason and instead deserves a fucking beating.

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      • talisman
        Resident Penguin
        FFR Simfile Author
        • May 2003
        • 4598

        #4
        RE: TWG XXIV: Calvin and Hobbes

        Haha, sweet.

        Alright, C+H, come to me, we'll get things started. For safety's sake I'm not sure if I should let you know who each other is right away (loooooooong shot possibility of a wolf faking it) but after a day I will. I'll accept opinions from the community on that one though. If I choose not to for today I will make sure you go to different rooms night two though, so don't worry about that.

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        • Afrobean
          Admiral in the Red Army
          • Dec 2003
          • 13262

          #5
          RE: TWG XXIV: Calvin and Hobbes

          Talisman, you do need to tell the blues who each other are. That's basically all you can do, since the wolves probably won't let you live for much longer, not with only a 2/3 chance of being guarded.

          Just wait until just before this TWG day ends to tell them. That is most definitely the perfect amount of time, because any less and a real blue may not have contacted you, and any more and you risk getting wolfed before the info comes out.

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          • talisman
            Resident Penguin
            FFR Simfile Author
            • May 2003
            • 4598

            #6
            RE: TWG XXIV: Calvin and Hobbes

            That's what I was planning on doing if I waited. Obviously they'll need to know who each other is by night two in case I die then.

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            • talisman
              Resident Penguin
              FFR Simfile Author
              • May 2003
              • 4598

              #7
              RE: TWG XXIV: Calvin and Hobbes

              Also guys, don't forget about the gbin thread, alot of actual twg discussion ended up happening in it. It's worth a read for background info, anyway, even if the main debate is somewhat moot now.

              http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...wtopic&t=39073

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              • Afrobean
                Admiral in the Red Army
                • Dec 2003
                • 13262

                #8
                RE: TWG XXIV: Calvin and Hobbes

                Ok, well then that's decided... maybe we should get to talking about who the wolves are then, eh?

                First of all, for anyone that missed it, there was quite a bit of TWG talk going down in the Gbin.

                http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...073&highlight=

                Second of all, based on Tass's actions, as I clearly implied in that thread, I believe Tass to be a wolf.

                Third of all, shut the hell up. I can vote for whomever I please.

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                • evilbutterfly
                  FFR Player
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 5784

                  #9
                  RE: TWG XXIV: Calvin and Hobbes

                  I'm still at Mom and Dad's house, so my computer access can be somewhat limited. Once I'm back at my dorm sometime tonight/this afternoon, I will be available on AIM and whatnot to chitty chat with everybody.

                  Until then, I'm not gonna think about TWG too much. :P
                  So I've gone completely slack-ass and haven't done any work on creating games. =(

                  In less-depressing news, I got a job for an online business (which sells non-electronic games, of all things!) which has taught me a lot about marketing online and all that jazz.

                  So now I'm on Twitter @NoahWright.
                  And I write the blog for their website.

                  Plus I do cool programming in-house that you'll never see. =O

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                  • QreepyBORIS
                    FFR Player
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 7454

                    #10
                    RE: TWG XXIV: Calvin and Hobbes

                    What I don't get is what makes Tass's actions wolfish. Since there is no master wolf and he's asking to get seered, why would that make anyone think he could be something other than human? Sure, it arouses some suspicion, but that's the suspicion that can be cleared by actually seering him. I just can't understand why a wolf would do this unless they knew they would not get seered (especially Tass--if the wolves lost him and did not have any other power players on their side, they'd basically just be putting themselves on shaky ground right off the bat). Also, Tass is averse to wolf sacrifice (although he did do it to some extent one game, it would have guaranteed wolf victory--I don't think that is the case here).

                    On the flip side, if what Tass did was wolfish and I really did miss something (as could be the case), I don't see how it is any more incriminating than what Afro did. Afro also did it to a greater extent than did Tass. In addition, it would be more likely for the blues to seer Tass than Afro, meaning that Afro gains the bonus of looking human by asking to be seered (well, that part's obviously up to debate) and the blues never know for sure if he is a wolf, so he slips right under the radar. But if there is a big difference between what Afro and what Tass did, I'm really not seeing it.

                    Signature subject to change.

                    THE ZERRRRRG.

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                    • Tasselfoot
                      Retired BOSS
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 25185

                      #11
                      RE: TWG XXIV: Calvin and Hobbes

                      Qreepy... the difference was stated in the GB thread in the convo I had with Afro. Its now moot with Talisman being saved... but that is not the point.

                      Basically, I went to 10 players on AIM and said "seer me" then about 2 minutes later "PS - Guard me too " and I sent a PM to the 5 players who weren't on AIM with the title "seer me" and the message "thanks".

                      The point of this was to get things rolling from night 1 on a central alliance. It should be obvious that a central alliance is better than 2 seperate smaller alliances (main reasons being voting power and 2nd being that 2 small alliances could wind up attacking each other by mistake). Afro's actions after mine specifically counter-acted those goals. What he did was put doubt and confusion into my plan, which is flawless. How? By giving the blues 2 possible targets to seer instead of a unified one to go after. Therefore, 1 could go to me, 1 to Afro... and now you have 2 small alliances instead of 1 larger central one.

                      Add to that the fact that Afro did not take a single thing I said seriously in the GB thread, was completely idiotic in the few conversations I had with him on AIM, and his quick vote on me here for absolutely no reason. PLUS his retarded ideas of how it would be smart of me to act the way I'm acting as a wolf...

                      I want to give him the benefit of the doubt as just being bitter at being green and wanting to have some part of this game, but he's doing a fucking awful job of doing anything but causing tension and strife.

                      PS - Talisman, I have some AIM convos I'd like to show you and have some discussion with you... although I'm not at home ATM. I'll be in touch later tonight.
                      RIP

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                      • Afrobean
                        Admiral in the Red Army
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 13262

                        #12
                        RE: TWG XXIV: Calvin and Hobbes

                        I'll be the first to admit it. Asking to be seer'd is no real indication of one's role. I would have without a doubt responded to Tass's request for seering in the same way even if I was red.

                        The chink in the chain is that Tass isn't that good of a wolf and I don't know if he'd openly ask to be seer'd knowing full well that he probably would be. I mean, he does have a history of doing stupid crap while red (faking blue), but would he really do something like this that would without a doubt ensure his own death as a wolf just to slow an alliance?

                        i dunno lol

                        All I do is that it would be brilliant for someone to do that as a wolf, and Tass is always bragging about how good he is at TWG and how smart he is.

                        EDIT: I capitalized the I in "i dunno lol" on accident haha.

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                        • Tasselfoot
                          Retired BOSS
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 25185

                          #13
                          RE: TWG XXIV: Calvin and Hobbes

                          I'll be the first to admit it. Asking to be seer'd is no real indication of one's role. I would have without a doubt responded to Tass's request for seering in the same way even if I was red.

                          The chink in the chain is that Tass isn't that good of a wolf and I don't know if he'd openly ask to be seer'd knowing full well that he probably would be. I mean, he does have a history of doing stupid crap while red (faking blue), but would he really do something like this that would without a doubt ensure his own death as a wolf just to slow an alliance?

                          i dunno lol

                          All I do is that it would be brilliant for someone to do that as a wolf, and Tass is always bragging about how good he is at TWG and how smart he is.



                          EDIT: I capitalized the I in "i dunno lol" on accident haha.

                          And now you pretty much skip everything I said AND contradict your previous statements....


                          PS - I said this to at least one person on AIM... 2, I think. I said pre-game that I wanted to be seered. So, yes, I had to say something regarding it during this game... but if I didn't actually want to be seered, I'd have waiting til the game started and made some small comment about it so as to let it fly under the radar. NOT be so open about it. I still want to be seered in case Talisman dies... I can step in.


                          EDIT of my own - my PS statement somehow got into Afro's quote... I moved it out.
                          RIP

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                          • evilbutterfly
                            FFR Player
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 5784

                            #14
                            RE: TWG XXIV: Calvin and Hobbes

                            1) I got no PM from Tass.
                            2) If I got an IM, I wouldn't know. If Tass paid any attention at all (aka: if he really cared much) he would know that.
                            3) Personally, I've always thought it true that when somebody says seer me the seer won't do that. The seer shouldn't just follow the whim of random strangers, and anybody saying "seer me lol" is just a random stranger telling the seer what to do. Especially given the 4/9 chance that the blues won't even get a chance to seer anybody, coming out as a red this game and saying "seer me" especially in what may seem like a not-super-serious manner, in my mind, reduces that person's chances of being seered. I don't see why you are all jumping on Afro for suggesting this possibility.
                            4) The thread in the G-Bin = he's obviously joking. I can't remember the last time I saw Chris be serious in the G-Bin. At least, not TWG-level serious.
                            So I've gone completely slack-ass and haven't done any work on creating games. =(

                            In less-depressing news, I got a job for an online business (which sells non-electronic games, of all things!) which has taught me a lot about marketing online and all that jazz.

                            So now I'm on Twitter @NoahWright.
                            And I write the blog for their website.

                            Plus I do cool programming in-house that you'll never see. =O

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                            • Tasselfoot
                              Retired BOSS
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 25185

                              #15
                              RE: TWG XXIV: Calvin and Hobbes

                              eb... agreed on Afro at first... but after 6 pages, the discussion got semi-serious if not completely serious.

                              also, I've asked to be seered multiple times before in past games, and usually have been. I see no reason why this game is any different.

                              I sent you IMs... you'll get them whenever you get home. *shrugs*

                              I jumped on Afro for his actions to me initially over AIM, which are posted in the GB. Everything else stemmed from there.
                              RIP

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