TWG XXIV: Calvin and Hobbes (Day 4!)

[TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons]

But once the day is over, someone dies. It does not require insta...that's only to end the day early.

Unless I've been wrong for 24 games, hah.

Yeah but with an insta there's no phantoms.

[lightdarkness]

I've had a rough day

Tass

[flypie743]

Votin' Guide:
HansSky-5 (Talisman, Tasselfoot, Afrobean, TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons, evilbutterfly)
Mattc16-3 (Kilgamayan, JurseyRider734, HansSky)
lightdarkness-1 (mattc16)
evilbutterfly-1 (QreepyBORIS)
Tasselfoot-1 (lightdarkness)

HansSky dies. Tps gets a phantom.

Comic coming shortly.

[flypie743]

I need PMs.

[flypie743]

Tps died.

It is Day 4. Deadline for voting is Wednesday at 9 PM eastern.

Remainin' Playaz
1. Tasselfoot (Tasselfoot)
2. TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons (LightninSandwich)
3. Afrobean (ThisisAfrobean)
4. mattc16 (mattc16mcfc)
5. talisman (stressreliefball)
6. QreepyBORIS (QreepyBORIS)
7. lightdarkness (lightdarkness42)
8. Kilgamayan (bjstrattonIM)
9. evilbutterfly (evilbutterfly87)
10. JurseyRider734 (xplatoniclove)

[Afrobean]

haha.

These wolves are retarded. They're clearing out my list of people that might be the last wolf in the wolfings.

PS Tass lol

[Tasselfoot]

Why plural Afro? You know there is only 1 wolf left.

[talisman]

this is worth reading. from day one.

stressreliefball (4:04:35 PM): qreepy what's up
QreepyBORIS (4:04:45 PM): Hey.
stressreliefball (4:04:56 PM): personal opinions on why the wolves did the pm thing?
QreepyBORIS (4:05:23 PM): Haven't mulled it over too much.
QreepyBORIS (4:05:26 PM): Lemme do so.
stressreliefball (4:05:31 PM): sure, go ahead
QreepyBORIS (4:07:19 PM): Well, we know that: a PM was sent to someone by "you" saying someone was a blue.
QreepyBORIS (4:07:23 PM): Hobbes, right?
QreepyBORIS (4:07:32 PM): But uh.
QreepyBORIS (4:07:43 PM): I can't see any reason to do this.
QreepyBORIS (4:07:58 PM): I don't know how much suspicion it's actually casting anywhere.
QreepyBORIS (4:08:24 PM): So either it was a failed framing attempt or, most likely, a confusion sort of thing.
stressreliefball (4:08:32 PM): hmm
stressreliefball (4:08:40 PM): ok, just getting everyone's opinions
QreepyBORIS (4:08:45 PM): No kills in the night to confuse anyone.
stressreliefball (4:08:51 PM): good point
QreepyBORIS (4:08:52 PM): So, they probably just did this.
QreepyBORIS (4:08:55 PM): Razz
stressreliefball (4:09:07 PM): do you have any suspicions right now?
QreepyBORIS (4:09:17 PM): Sadly, none.
QreepyBORIS (4:09:19 PM): I might phantom. =/
stressreliefball (4:09:25 PM): or you might not
QreepyBORIS (4:09:28 PM): Well
QreepyBORIS (4:09:33 PM): That's the hope.
stressreliefball (4:09:51 PM): please don't phantom
stressreliefball (4:09:56 PM): and try not to random either
QreepyBORIS (4:10:03 PM): I always try to vote, man.
QreepyBORIS (4:10:07 PM): Don't sweat that.
QreepyBORIS (4:10:18 PM): It's just I'm not so sure who to vote on.
QreepyBORIS (4:10:26 PM): *for
QreepyBORIS (4:10:38 PM): (I may or may not have told you that I #$#ing hate prepositions)
stressreliefball (4:10:42 PM): heh
stressreliefball (4:10:56 PM): well it is day one, so uncertainty is allowable
QreepyBORIS (4:11:02 PM): You have any revolutionary ideas regarding the PM?
QreepyBORIS (4:11:07 PM): Yeah, that's small consolation
QreepyBORIS (4:11:07 PM): hah
stressreliefball (4:11:13 PM): nothing revolutionary i would say
stressreliefball (4:11:23 PM): it does have a semi colon in it
QreepyBORIS (4:11:39 PM): Copy + paste?
stressreliefball (4:11:43 PM): and not too many people use semicolons regularly
stressreliefball (4:12:05 PM): meh I'm not going to copy paste it yet
QreepyBORIS (4:12:08 PM): Unless they are concious about grammar (or if they want to appear concious about grammar in the PM)
stressreliefball (4:12:17 PM): right
stressreliefball (4:12:32 PM): you're about the only person in the game I know who uses the semicolon
QreepyBORIS (4:12:44 PM): I love the semicolon. Razz
stressreliefball (4:12:55 PM): yeah, I remember you saying as much once
QreepyBORIS (4:13:06 PM): Probably.
QreepyBORIS (4:13:16 PM): But in any case, I am not the only one able to weild it.
QreepyBORIS (4:13:22 PM): (wield?)
stressreliefball (4:13:23 PM): indeed not
stressreliefball (4:13:35 PM): but in terms of likliness you're somewhat higher than others
stressreliefball (4:13:53 PM): not that I'm condemning you for this, just something I've considered
QreepyBORIS (4:14:05 PM): Circumspect consideration is always welcome. Razz
QreepyBORIS (4:14:22 PM): (Although on occasion uncomfortable for me).
stressreliefball (4:14:30 PM): understandably
QreepyBORIS (4:14:31 PM): Razz
QreepyBORIS (4:14:34 PM): Sec, phone
QreepyBORIS (4:17:26 PM): Back.
stressreliefball (4:17:34 PM): k
stressreliefball (4:17:59 PM): what do you think about blah's accusation on nforcer?
QreepyBORIS (4:18:12 PM): Lemme look.
QreepyBORIS (4:18:25 PM): In just a sec..in the GBin there is a thread with my name IN THE TITLE
QreepyBORIS (4:18:28 PM): So...Razz
stressreliefball (4:18:31 PM): heh
QreepyBORIS (4:25:13 PM): K...finding TWG thread
QreepyBORIS (4:26:16 PM): Oh, right, that post.
stressreliefball (4:26:22 PM): yeah
QreepyBORIS (4:26:26 PM): I don't know so much.
QreepyBORIS (4:26:27 PM): I mean
QreepyBORIS (4:26:43 PM): I don't know the way nForcer plays as well as he.
QreepyBORIS (4:26:50 PM): He might be in the right
QreepyBORIS (4:26:59 PM): On the other hand:
QreepyBORIS (4:27:34 PM): Since I don't know how nForcer plays, I don't know how valid Blah's statements are. Also, I don't know how proof-tastic his post is.
stressreliefball (4:27:50 PM): it has some merit, I guess, since blah played with nforcer last game
QreepyBORIS (4:27:56 PM): The gripping hand is (lol Larry Niven), there's not that much evidence to the contrary.
QreepyBORIS (4:28:02 PM): Yeah, that was my thoughts.
QreepyBORIS (4:28:19 PM): But...I have no idea.
QreepyBORIS (4:28:27 PM): 50% of the time it's all in the head. Razz
stressreliefball (4:28:27 PM): yeah, there isn't too much to go on there
QreepyBORIS (4:28:34 PM): And people change play styles
QreepyBORIS (4:28:37 PM): But yes, nothing to go in.
QreepyBORIS (4:28:47 PM): In a pinch, I would not feel terrible voting for nForcer.
stressreliefball (4:29:06 PM): what about voting blah?
QreepyBORIS (4:29:08 PM): But I'm looking for more strong-seeming evidence first.
QreepyBORIS (4:29:12 PM): Blah?
QreepyBORIS (4:29:21 PM): Well, that has some merit
stressreliefball (4:29:21 PM): yeah, since he accused nforcer
stressreliefball (4:29:28 PM): and voted alot earlier than normal
QreepyBORIS (4:29:38 PM): A good thing he voted, at least.
QreepyBORIS (4:29:42 PM): Since it's so damn inactive, hah
stressreliefball (4:29:56 PM): true, but he usually waits til the end
QreepyBORIS (4:30:00 PM): But...there's not really much more reason to vote him than nForcer.
QreepyBORIS (4:30:25 PM): Phrased kind of badly there...point being, voting him has only equal merit to voting nForcer
QreepyBORIS (4:30:31 PM): Lemme read some more of nForcer's posts.
stressreliefball (4:30:34 PM): mmk
QreepyBORIS (4:31:47 PM): Ah, a couplethings hit me.
QreepyBORIS (4:32:05 PM): LIke, how he cites how Afro is so right about him being green.
stressreliefball (4:32:14 PM): yeah
QreepyBORIS (4:32:17 PM): That seems a little unorthodox thing for a human to say.
stressreliefball (4:32:21 PM): maybe
QreepyBORIS (4:32:32 PM): But then again, it's not like blatant or anything.
QreepyBORIS (4:32:41 PM): Edges my suspicion a little.
QreepyBORIS (4:32:57 PM): And then uh
QreepyBORIS (4:32:59 PM): The pawn thing.
QreepyBORIS (4:33:08 PM): He's like, promising bandwagons.
stressreliefball (4:33:15 PM): where is that?
QreepyBORIS (4:33:26 PM): Paragraph 3
QreepyBORIS (4:33:27 PM): same post
QreepyBORIS (4:33:33 PM): Bottom of page 4.
QreepyBORIS (4:33:52 PM): And he says that he will purposely try to change his behavior.
QreepyBORIS (4:33:59 PM): That's kind of #$*#ed up there.
QreepyBORIS (4:34:06 PM): Crowd-pleasing like a little maniac.
stressreliefball (4:34:19 PM): heh
QreepyBORIS (4:34:23 PM): Voting for an inactive..doesn't tell me anything.
QreepyBORIS (4:35:26 PM): Last paragraph is also a little...sketchy.
stressreliefball (4:35:46 PM): he has a bit of a bossy air
QreepyBORIS (4:36:02 PM): RAther.
QreepyBORIS (4:36:09 PM): Seems
QreepyBORIS (4:36:14 PM): Ugh, it hurts to read. =/
QreepyBORIS (4:36:35 PM): It kind of swings me in the wrong direction with him.
QreepyBORIS (4:36:37 PM): The whole post, really.
QreepyBORIS (4:36:51 PM): It's like there's something in every paragraph that just hits me as weird.
QreepyBORIS (4:36:54 PM): What're you thinking?
stressreliefball (4:37:04 PM): well I don't know
stressreliefball (4:37:10 PM): I hadn't actually looked at that post
stressreliefball (4:37:19 PM): but I sort of agreed with blah's earlier points
QreepyBORIS (4:37:21 PM): I'd reccommend it.
QreepyBORIS (4:37:23 PM): Razz
QreepyBORIS (4:37:27 PM): (lol bossy air)
stressreliefball (4:37:36 PM): heh
stressreliefball (4:37:52 PM): well I mean, I can remember during nforcer's "return" game
stressreliefball (4:37:58 PM): that he was all gung ho and (#$%
stressreliefball (4:38:03 PM): not caring about being green
stressreliefball (4:38:07 PM): but people can change
QreepyBORIS (4:38:18 PM): People can change.
QreepyBORIS (4:38:33 PM): But that's a radical and quick change in style, if you ask me.
stressreliefball (4:38:41 PM): possibly
QreepyBORIS (4:38:51 PM): Uh.
QreepyBORIS (4:38:55 PM): More than possibly, I think. Razz
stressreliefball (4:39:05 PM): well, true
QreepyBORIS (4:39:09 PM): Although as you said, it can be attributed to pople changing.
stressreliefball (4:39:10 PM): depends on your interpretaion
QreepyBORIS (4:39:16 PM): But it's all about which is more likely.
QreepyBORIS (4:39:21 PM): *people
QreepyBORIS (4:39:59 PM): Likelihood goes like this: is it more likely for him to be a wolf, or more likely for him to have just had a TWG revelation? Razz
QreepyBORIS (4:40:07 PM): Wait, how well'd he do in his return game?
stressreliefball (4:40:15 PM): I don't recall
stressreliefball (4:40:19 PM): I think humans won
QreepyBORIS (4:40:38 PM): Then frankly, I don't seem him changing it like this.
QreepyBORIS (4:40:47 PM): I mioght put a vote on him in a sec.
QreepyBORIS (4:40:50 PM): Lemme read more.
QreepyBORIS (4:41:16 PM): His most recent post sheds little light.
QreepyBORIS (4:41:21 PM): But eh.
QreepyBORIS (4:41:42 PM): Holy (#$%, Mattc16 can't read.
stressreliefball (4:41:45 PM): could all just be day one jumping at shadows and stuff
QreepyBORIS (4:42:00 PM): Haha, welcome to TWG! Razz
QreepyBORIS (4:42:03 PM): But seriously.
QreepyBORIS (4:42:11 PM): Read Matt's last 2 posts.
QreepyBORIS (4:42:16 PM): Well, last post; you read the other one.
stressreliefball (4:42:19 PM): he made another one?
stressreliefball (4:42:21 PM): cool
QreepyBORIS (4:42:23 PM): Just now.
QreepyBORIS (4:49:03 PM): REad it?
stressreliefball (4:49:11 PM): yeah
stressreliefball (4:49:16 PM): safe vote
QreepyBORIS (4:49:28 PM): What do you mean?
stressreliefball (4:49:34 PM): going for someone inactive
QreepyBORIS (4:49:35 PM): It was a safety, or it was a safe bet?
QreepyBORIS (4:49:37 PM): Ah.
stressreliefball (4:49:51 PM): not safe bet necessarily
stressreliefball (4:50:00 PM): I've talked with tps and he seems fairly normal to me
stressreliefball (4:50:16 PM): but safe appearing
QreepyBORIS (4:50:16 PM): Didn't know what you'd meant.
QreepyBORIS (4:50:19 PM): Aight.
QreepyBORIS (4:53:09 PM): Have you planned a vote?
stressreliefball (4:53:18 PM): not yet
stressreliefball (4:53:25 PM): I'm playing by ear right now
stressreliefball (4:53:38 PM): I have my suspicions, but I've got to keep them under wraps
QreepyBORIS (4:54:06 PM): If you say so. Razz
QreepyBORIS (4:54:07 PM): Alright.

[Afrobean]

Why plural Afro? You know there is only 1 wolf left.

Yea I realized that after hitting submit, but I figured it would be better to not edit it.

[talisman]

note the transition from not being suspicious of nforcer and his response to my probe on blah.

[QreepyBORIS]

That's a little bit misleading. The thing is that at the time, before I had really read the posts made by nForcer, I thought that there was a roughly equal chance of blah and nForcer being wolves. And then I read nForcer's post, which set off all sorts of sirens, and I voted for him. Had I thought nForcer proved himself human instead, I'd have probably voted for blah (assuming nothing else was way out of whack).

Point is: I didn't think nForcer was a wolf so much until I read his posts. His posts were way wolfier than was blah's was (those were the two players I was really considering at the time), so I voted against him. I didn't think blah was a wolf as much just because that was not my initial impression; that was something you suggested in the first place, talis. It wasn't my primary thought, and I wanted to keep my own train of thought going.

...I appear to have been quite thoroughly wrong though, hah.


I still think EB is a wolf for the odd things he said yesterday. No new evidence states the contrary.

[talisman]

blah wasn't mentioned until that point, I was just throwing it out there. I thought it was interesting how you just sort of immediately said it could be possible and then said it wouldn't, and how you similarly reversed yourself on nforcer, except going from not suspicious to suspicious.

Also how you avoided the hans train yesterday, knowing that hans would be human and not wanting to look like a bandwagonning wolf.

[QreepyBORIS]

On Blah:

I think you;re still confused about this (then again, when I read my post above, it was pretty damn unclear...I need some sleep already, hah). But, at that time, there really was no more evidence to suggest Blah was a wolf over nForcer. Therefore, I didn't think so. You're also construing my statements to make it sound like I went strong on nForcer right after you suggested Blah. That, also (even shown by timestamps) is not true. My feelings about nForcer's wolfishness increased as I read his posts, not as you suggested blah was a wolf. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean, but I don't think so.


Regarding the "hans-train":

Oh, but that's a die that can roll a few ways, talis. You could say that I would not vote Hans expressly to not look like a bandwagonning wolf (like you said). You could say that, had I voted for him, that I was a bandwagonning wolf. You could also say, had I voted for him, that I was trying not to look like someone trying not to look like a bandwagonning wolf (I'm 90% people have been accused of this before). So any way you slice it, that part's pretty irrelevant. Especially since you make it sound as though I posted last-minute and avoided hopping aboard the bandwagon (which was not the case).

[Tasselfoot]

what I want to know is... what the fuck is up with all the "razz". 7-stud lo-ball is not THAT fun of a game.

[Kilgamayan]

Still voting for mattc since nothing immediately jumps out to the contrary in a quick skim.

I'm tired from football, I'll read the thread either later or tomorrow.