TWG CXXII - Welcome to Disboard~

[James May]

Re: TWG CXXII - Welcome to Disboard~

...Really James...

Think about the claim for a minute.

Do you honestly think a wolf would make a claim like that when they don't even know what roles there are?

Answer yourself this please.

Charu, I'm really trying to think that claim through but seriously, why the fuck would he just claim like that?

[Charu]

Re: TWG CXXII - Welcome to Disboard~

Probably felt extremely pressured in the heat of the moment.

He shouldn't of, but there's been no counter claim yet, so until that happens, no one should be lynching him at all.

[James May]

Re: TWG CXXII - Welcome to Disboard~

Probably felt extremely pressured in the heat of the moment.

He shouldn't of, but there's been no counter claim yet, so until that happens, no one should be lynching him at all.

Alright. But I do say this because mafia has the option to have one of themselves be a Role Cop as said in the wiki:

Mafia Role Cop
Welcome, [Player Name]. You are now a Mafia Role Cop
Additional Abilities
Each night you may target a player. You will learn what, if any, role they may have.

He just said cop so there's two distinction here: He could be a Mafia Role Cop or a Town Goon Cop.

[Charu]

Re: TWG CXXII - Welcome to Disboard~

You're not understanding me.

THEY DON'T KNOW THE ROLES... AT ALL... WHATSOEVER.

Unless I missed the fine print where the wiki states that the game first starts off with a cop and whatnot.

From my understanding, it does not. It's all randomly generated.

For each modification that is selected by the mafia, town gains an additional role as well. The town has two roles to start, resulting in a maximum of five town roles randomly selected from the following:
Goon Cop
Roleblocker
Tracker
Bodyguard
Vigilante
Innocent Child (reveal at start of day one)

[Vendetta21]

Re: TWG CXXII - Welcome to Disboard~

you cannot lynch him unless he survives through the night, even if there is a counterclaim

[James May]

Re: TWG CXXII - Welcome to Disboard~

You're not understanding me.

THEY DON'T KNOW THE ROLES... AT ALL... WHATSOEVER.

Unless I missed the fine print where the wiki states that the game first starts off with a cop and whatnot.

From my understanding, it does not. It's all randomly generated.

*facepalms* Charu...I'm saying that before the generated stuff mafia can let one of themselves be the Role Cop. I am factoring in the randomly generated stuff. But let's assume that Mafia did not choose a role cop and dap indeed is the Town Goon Cop.

unvote

I am curious to see where this goes. And if dap is the Mafia Role Cop then don't come whining at me.

[James May]

Re: TWG CXXII - Welcome to Disboard~

*facepalms* Charu...I'm saying that before the generated stuff mafia can let one of themselves be the Role Cop. I am factoring in the randomly generated stuff. But let's assume that Mafia did not choose role cop and dap indeed is the Town Goon Cop.

unvote

I am curious to see where this goes. And if dap is the Mafia Role Cop then don't come whining at me.

The "a" was a mistype >_>

[Charu]

Re: TWG CXXII - Welcome to Disboard~

Then I would say that's a really dumb play on there part.

wtf, why would they even do that?

And why would they even do that when one of them is being pressured?

I don't understand the logic of what you're bringing up. Doesn't sound like a particularly smart thing to do.

[Vendetta21]

Re: TWG CXXII - Welcome to Disboard~

it does make sense for a well rounded wolf to claim cop when they are facing a death they cannot get out of any other way to buy themselves a day and possibly get a revealed cop out of the deal

so there are considerations
1. could DBP get out of being lynched? probably but he was losing his composure which indicates he didn't have anyone to back him up (unless, if and only if, viccica is also a wolf who failed to back him up and chose to vote for him indicating to him that he was boned, but it seems more possible in that scenario to accept the veteran players' call)
2. is dbp well-rounded enough as a wolf to know this was the optimal play if he geniunely felt he had utterly lost his day 1 chances? possibly but i would say this would happen less than 50 out of a hundred times if we ran this exact scenario repeatedly.

[YoshL]

Re: TWG CXXII - Welcome to Disboard~

#innacurate_vote_counts_incorporated

[James May]

Re: TWG CXXII - Welcome to Disboard~

it does make sense for a well rounded wolf to claim cop when they are facing a death they cannot get out of any other way to buy themselves a day and possibly get a revealed cop out of the deal

so there are considerations
1. could DBP get out of being lynched? probably but he was losing his composure which indicates he didn't have anyone to back him up (unless, if and only if, viccica is also a wolf who failed to back him up and chose to vote for him indicating to him that he was boned, but it seems more possible in that scenario to accept the veteran players' call)
2. is dbp well-rounded enough as a wolf to know this was the optimal play if he geniunely felt he had utterly lost his day 1 chances? possibly but i would say this would happen less than 50 out of a hundred times if we ran this exact scenario repeatedly.

finally someone gets it >_>

Also, didn't know that greg can vote for 2 people...

Also, DBP my gut tells me the claim is extremely suspicious. I really can't put my finger on it but maybe on Day 2 (if I make it through this day) I'll be able to compile a post why I find it suspicious...

[Red Blaster]

Re: TWG CXXII - Welcome to Disboard~

(3) James May - j-rodd123, dabackpack, Viccica
(1) j-rodd123 - thesunfan
(2) dabackpack - Vendetta21, MrPopadopalis25
(1) MrPopadopalis25 - thesunfan
(2) psychoangel691 - Red Blaster, FictionJunction

(2) unvote - James May, psychoangel691
(1) no vote - Charu

Sunfan has two separate votes?

[Red Blaster]

Re: TWG CXXII - Welcome to Disboard~

On the subject of DBP, I feel like it was a frustration play and nothing more.
He wanted the heat off of him...he got it momentarily.

I don't buy him being cop..at least not at a convincing enough percentage.
I'd personally give him a 15% chance of actually being the cop. Given that there's something like an 10 or 11 percent chance that any town could get cop, that isn't really much confidence in his claim.

[Vendetta21]

Re: TWG CXXII - Welcome to Disboard~

finally someone gets it >_>

Also, didn't know that greg can vote for 2 people...

Also, DBP my gut tells me the claim is extremely suspicious. I really can't put my finger on it but maybe on Day 2 (if I make it through this day) I'll be able to compile a post why I find it suspicious...

no, we're not killing him unless he survives. you missed the point of my post.

[YoshL]

Re: TWG CXXII - Welcome to Disboard~

(3) James May - j-rodd123, dabackpack, Viccica
(3) dabackpack - Vendetta21, MrPopadopalis25, James May
(1) MrPopadopalis25 - thesunfan
(2) psychoangel691 - Red Blaster, FictionJunction
(1) lumphoboextreme - DarkManticoreX2

(1) unvote - psychoangel691
(1) no vote - Charu

fixed