This definitely makes me think that argo is a wolf as well. First off, he called lito a worthless player and secondly, he says that lito was a green. That would make me think that he is and/or knows Frank Gallucio who finds out the color of whoever died that night.
Lito was just a green, and like I said the wolves intentions were
Originally posted by kekeb
Shadow kills lito, his main defense. Why would a wolf kill someone who is fighting to prove he's human? Perhaps killing lito would take some heat off shadow.
Which may be smart for an unexperienced player, but someone with some logic like trav wouldn't do that.
That wasn't defense, for dorama, it was actually a little bit against him.
This is how I originally interpreted your post. I was going to post how you were proving that he's avoiding xception. And indeed he might be invisible.
Originally Posted by kekeb Shadow kills lito, his main defense. Why would a wolf kill someone who is fighting to prove he's human? Perhaps killing lito would take some heat off shadow.
Which may be smart for an unexperienced player, but someone with some logic like trav wouldn't do that.
So if I'm wolf, it was a smart move, but if trav killed him, it was stupid? Huh?
Jugglinguy, you basically admitted to defending dorama:
jungmour2009 (7:20:02 PM): what was the point of pointing out that dorama's in the thread?
jugglinguy94 (7:20:14 PM): cause then people might say that he had to leave
jugglinguy94 (7:20:23 PM): but since he was in the thread, he obviously didn't
jungmour2009 (7:20:47 PM): lol last time you defended someone, you were defending a fellow wolf
jungmour2009 (7:20:53 PM): (i.e. devo)
jugglinguy94 (7:20:56 PM): lol last time i was a wolf..
jugglinguy94 (7:21:04 PM): but times have changed
argo, you're either really good at logically knowing what the wolves' intentions are, or perhaps you are one.
Again, expanding off of our AIM convo, you're putting your trust on and off of people too easily.
First of all, here's the IM you sent me while I was at school, just for reference:
"argo15" (10:34:47 AM):god damn you, can't anyone interesting be on. "argo15" (10:37:11 AM):ok, so sully, trav, lito, me, dorama, you are the humans
Temote, Jugglinguy, Xplay, Kekeb, Kirth, megamon, and sc979 are my suspects "argo15" (10:38:23 AM):killing lito was obviously not a briany play that someone like you or trav would do.
Sully you trust because he posted that dooey should include a green tag in his human PM, which obviously makes him human. ... yet it doesn't, considering post #26, three posts before his, Lito stated that dooey should include a green tag in his PM.
Trav you trust, because ... well, here are your two reasons:
"argo15" (9:03:27 PM):one, is lito had very little power in convincing people, so killing him, knowing he's a green. is a waist. Wolves go after blues
"argo15" (9:03:59 PM):lito was accusing him
note: "him" in reason one is referring to Lito obviously, and "him" in reason two is referring to trav
Reason one is invalid because Lito surely had power in convincing people. In both jTWG's I've played with him, he had great arguments and logic. Reason one is definitely invalid.
Reason two is possibly invalid because of the possibility which someone earlier suggested. The wolves may be lynching Lito just because they know he IS influential and to frame trav.
Now Lito ... that doesn't even make sense why you would trust him considering the only thing Lito did was announce to the world how stupid he thinks TRAV (who you trust) is. And again, you're throwing your trust in places that you're not even sure of.
and dorama? you're trusting him way too easily and you're not even considering the possibility that xplay might be the real seer.
Also, how the hell are you suspecting Temote, jugglinguy, Kirth, megamon, AND sc979?
Kek3b (10:49:33 PM): you can't imply, and you must think of all possibilities
Argo1516 (10:49:38 PM): yes but you wont think realistically
Kek3b (10:51:10 PM): so why do you suspect me?
Kek3b (10:51:20 PM): " Temote, Jugglinguy, Xplay, Kekeb, Kirth, megamon, and sc979 are my suspects"
Argo1516 (10:51:31 PM): yeah
Argo1516 (10:51:35 PM): you
Kek3b (10:51:44 PM): my question was why, not if
Argo1516 (10:51:47 PM): why shouldn't I?
Kek3b (10:52:08 PM): why should you say that non-said people are green or blue?
Kek3b (10:52:15 PM): because you have a hunch?
Argo1516 (10:52:38 PM): realistic context.
Kek3b (10:52:46 PM): -_-
Kek3b (10:52:53 PM): you've been talking to Kirth haven't you
Kek3b (10:53:04 PM): he's a very logical person, great asset to the humans
Argo1516 (10:53:04 PM): my motto is, "everything a wolf says, he says it for a reason"
Kek3b (10:53:50 PM): this could work, but it isn't always the case
Kek3b (10:53:57 PM): what have i said that leads you to assume me a wolf.
Argo1516 (10:55:08 PM): not much at all
Argo1516 (10:55:22 PM): probably i can rule you out
Argo1516 (10:55:30 PM): i don't think your a wolf personally
Argo1516 (10:56:12 PM): but there are certain things that reallistically wolves wont say.
Kek3b (10:56:29 PM): or are you saying that for getting my trust.
Kek3b (10:56:34 PM): lol
Argo1516 (10:56:35 PM): unless they've had experience
Argo1516 (10:56:47 PM): i don't want your trust
Kek3b (10:56:52 PM): ...
Argo1516 (10:57:06 PM): I want people to understand what i'm getting at
Kek3b (10:57:10 PM): so you don't want a humane alliance
Argo1516 (10:57:20 PM): why do you?
Kek3b (10:57:29 PM): lmao
Kek3b (10:57:38 PM): i would like for us to win yes
Argo1516 (10:57:54 PM): ps, earlier today all I wanted to get out of you was for you to say something that proved you human. It never came
Kek3b (10:58:08 PM): will this do? I'm human
Argo1516 (10:58:11 PM): it didn't hurt you either though
Argo1516 (10:58:18 PM): that will not do
Kek3b (10:58:22 PM): i figured lol
Argo1516 (10:58:30 PM): it has to be something that a wolf would not say at all
Kek3b (10:58:33 PM): but yeah, i'm obviously not going to just blurt out i'm a human
Kek3b (10:58:48 PM): play tug and pull... try to understand YOU. who was questioning myself.
so let me get this right.
You name Kekeb as one of the people you suspect, then when he confronts you about it, you say "I don't think your a wolf personally"
my "suspects" are people I have no evidence or no good evidence on. I guess there not really "suspicions", but still here is what I believe as of right now.
Either
Trav, dorama, [Temote or Jugglinguy or megamon88 or sc979]
or
shaow, xplay, [Temote or Jugglinguy or megamon88 or sc979]
personally I think the second is the right one. Why don't I include the others? Because I talked with them enough and I find it very very unlikely.
So what evidence do you have on me that you don't suspect me and in fact believe me to be human?
... nothing you've said this game makes sense to me. In fact, it seems like everything you're saying has no validity at all and is characteristic of a wolf.
"Easy trust is a common characteristic of a wolf."
And you definitely trusted sully and dorama WAY too easily.
I think my method of process of elimination is a good way to figure out the wolves. As long as I don't die during the game I eventually clear all the human names.
Your process of elimination by which you look at one thing that a person says (see Sully) and, without even investigating briefly, let alone thoroughly, to clear their name?
... sorry, but your method is impractical and ineffective imo.
You're definitely entitled to use it if you find it efficient, but I don't see any real logic happening.
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