jTWG XLVI: Chicago

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  • DrKirth
    FFR Player
    • Dec 2006
    • 484

    #331
    Re: jTWG XLVI: Chicago

    All right. Here's what I think of sc: In the last night phase xplay came to me and said that he got a psychic counterclaim. One of them was sc. A detail he mentioned to me was that sc had said dorama came back as "not red". Now, I've talked to dooey about how this is handled, and he had said the psychic gets his reports by color. I've also talked to the other psychic, and s/he sounds like the real deal, after a lengthy discussion.

    Here's my convo with xplayfan:

    Code:
    JONALEON1 (2:30:41 PM):	hey
    DrKirth (2:32:24 PM):	heya
    JONALEON1 (2:32:34 PM):	i got a counterclaim for psychic -_-
    DrKirth (2:32:40 PM):	eh what?
    JONALEON1 (2:33:54 PM):	Both *edited* and sc said to me that they were psychic.
    DrKirth (2:34:16 PM):	hmmmm
    DrKirth (2:34:26 PM):	lemme check my logs with sc
    DrKirth (2:34:29 PM):	something was fishy there
    DrKirth (2:34:41 PM):	he slipped, and i found out he was blue, 
    but maybe he was red instead
    [B]JONALEON1 (2:34:58 PM):	*edited* came out to me 
    first. after day 2. sc came out to me after day 3.
    DrKirth (2:35:48 PM):	*edited* would make sense since 
    he'd get trav's autopsy report[/B]
    JONALEON1 (2:36:55 PM):	yeah, when sc told me he was psychic. 
    he just said that dorama was not red. *edited* on the other hand 
    told me that he was green.
    DrKirth (2:36:56 PM):	yeah sc is blue or red, but that doesnt help 
    much in this situation
    JONALEON1 (2:39:37 PM):	i should ask dooey on how the psychic 
    gets his results
    DrKirth (2:40:24 PM):	hmm i don't know if that'd help much.. 
    *edited* might have said green just because it wasn't red
    DrKirth (2:41:47 PM):	i dont get why sc would wait to ally for 
    another whole day
    JONALEON1 (2:42:19 PM):	yeah that confuses me. he should've 
    told me after day 2.
    DrKirth (2:42:59 PM):	so both said dorama was human?
    JONALEON1 (2:43:04 PM):	yup
    DrKirth (2:43:08 PM):	bleh
    DrKirth (2:44:22 PM):	well i gotta get to class
    DrKirth (2:44:29 PM):	so be back sometime tonight
    JONALEON1 (2:44:34 PM):	ok
    Another important detail is that sc chose not to come out to xplayfan after he got his "report" on trav, which was quite strange. It seems to me that the blues would want to ally and work together to win the game. Now, here's my convo with sc just now:

    Code:
    Sam97379 (2:00:50 PM): hey
    DrKirth (2:00:56 PM): yo
    Sam97379 (2:01:03 PM): is there a reason you're voting for me
    DrKirth (2:01:10 PM): yeah
    DrKirth (2:01:33 PM): apparently you came out to xplay as the 
    psychic, and in reality xplay already had a psychic come out before
    Sam97379 (2:01:42 PM): ??
    DrKirth (2:01:50 PM): two psychics came out to xplay
    DrKirth (2:02:26 PM): at the moment, the other psychic claimer 
    is more believable
    Sam97379 (2:02:34 PM): why
    DrKirth (2:02:57 PM): well, if you're the psychic, then what 
    reports did you get on the other people, aside from dorama?
    Sam97379 (2:03:17 PM): trav was red
    Sam97379 (2:03:20 PM): dorama was not red
    [B]DrKirth (2:03:38 PM): how about lito, shadow, and xception
    Sam97379 (2:03:48 PM): i don't get those
    Sam97379 (2:04:05 PM): only from the lynchings
    DrKirth (2:04:36 PM): failure. the psychic gets reports from 
    every death[/B]
    Sam97379 (2:04:43 PM): err
    Sam97379 (2:04:44 PM): I didn't
    Sam97379 (2:05:03 PM): and wtf
    [B]Sam97379 (2:05:10 PM): it's not like a wolf will wolf one 
    of their own
    DrKirth (2:05:33 PM): so? maybe the psychic wants to know
    if the seer or guardian died
    Sam97379 (2:05:38 PM): ?
    Sam97379 (2:05:44 PM): I only get red/not red
    DrKirth (2:05:55 PM): failure. psychic gets reports by color, 
    not red/not red[/B]
    Sam97379 (2:06:03 PM): no
    DrKirth (2:06:25 PM): don't bother talking out of this one. i 
    confirmed this fact with dooey
    Sam97379 (2:06:43 PM): wtf
    DrKirth (2:07:17 PM): if you're going to fake a role, you might 
    want to get your facts straight beforehand
    Sam97379 (2:07:25 PM): i'm not faking a role
    DrKirth (2:07:55 PM): mhmm
    Sam97379 (2:08:03 PM): ...
    DrKirth (2:08:33 PM): putting all that aside, why did you come 
    out to xplay once you got dorama's report?
    Sam97379 (2:08:42 PM): because he came back not red
    Sam97379 (2:08:46 PM): that's important, isn't it?
    Sam97379 (2:08:55 PM): i would've kept my role to myself if 
    he came back red
    DrKirth (2:08:56 PM): what about trav's report?
    Sam97379 (2:09:01 PM): he was red
    Sam97379 (2:09:10 PM): everyone knew already, so it didn't 
    matter
    DrKirth (2:09:20 PM): so, it's not important to establish 
    an alliance with the seer?
    Sam97379 (2:09:39 PM): not necessarily
    Sam97379 (2:10:05 PM): my role already leaked out to at 
    least 2 people
    DrKirth (2:10:10 PM): i think anyone who played the game 
    would do so
    DrKirth (2:10:43 PM): yeah, your role got leaked because of 
    two psychic claims
    Sam97379 (2:11:21 PM): so I basically got screwed for waiting 
    until after dorama's report to tell him?
    DrKirth (2:11:47 PM): that, and the fact you were incorrect 
    about two aspects of the psychic role
    Sam97379 (2:12:01 PM): uhh
    Sam97379 (2:12:11 PM): i would know if i was wrong about 
    that or not
    DrKirth (2:12:48 PM): *ahem* 
    [URL="http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showpost.php?p=2130961&postcount=36"]http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showpost.php?p=2130961&postcount=36[/URL]
    Sam97379 (2:13:18 PM): ...
    Sam97379 (2:13:20 PM): i didn't
    Sam97379 (2:13:33 PM): and it doesn't make sense anyway
    DrKirth (2:13:53 PM): sure it does, because the psychic gets 
    results by color, another detail you've overlooked
    Sam97379 (2:14:02 PM): no
    Sam97379 (2:14:07 PM): i've already said what i get
    DrKirth (2:14:35 PM): i forwarded to you on the forums the pm 
    i sent to dooey and his response
    Sam97379 (2:15:11 PM): hmm
    Sam97379 (2:15:55 PM): i probably should talk to dooey about 
    that
    The important things to note here is that sc was incorrect on how the psychic gets his reports (by color instead of red/not red), and that the psychic also gets reports on the nightly kills as well. As such, I think that sc is a wolf.


    Be efficient.

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    • Kekeb
      davai
      • Dec 2006
      • 2765

      #332
      Re: jTWG XLVI: Chicago

      I guess the real psychic would know if they got night lynchings, but perhaps dooey messed up with giving out the readings.

      If not, there is proof SC messed up:


      My vote goes to SC for now, unless dooey confirms it.

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      • Kekeb
        davai
        • Dec 2006
        • 2765

        #333
        Re: jTWG XLVI: Chicago

        night wolfings*

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        • sc979
          FFR Player
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Aug 2006
          • 1644

          #334
          Re: jTWG XLVI: Chicago

          okay, fine, I lied about being psychic. I only did it because according to argo's 'plan', I would get lynched, and I wanted to save myself.
          ...

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          • sc979
            FFR Player
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Aug 2006
            • 1644

            #335
            Re: jTWG XLVI: Chicago

            And if I were red, why the hell would I tell xplay and kill him on the same night?
            ...

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            • aTzUeLo1191
              FFR Player
              • Jun 2007
              • 594

              #336
              Re: jTWG XLVI: Chicago

              I really doubt counterclaiming is the best way to get out of being lynched, might just be the fastest way to get there.

              1 more for insta btw.


              Originally posted by omgitznpv
              brb suicide
              JOIN TWG NAO!!!

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              • sc979
                FFR Player
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2006
                • 1644

                #337
                Re: jTWG XLVI: Chicago

                Yeah, I know I screwed up. Just like dorama did... If Temote got seered green, then I would be lynched next, so I thought it was worth the risk.
                ...

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                • sc979
                  FFR Player
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 1644

                  #338
                  Re: jTWG XLVI: Chicago

                  If you want the reason for saying dorama was not red, it's because if I said he was, and someone got seered red, got lynched and the game didn't end, then xplay would know I was lying. And if the game did end after the lynch, it wouldn't matter what I said.
                  ...

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                  • aTzUeLo1191
                    FFR Player
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 594

                    #339
                    Re: jTWG XLVI: Chicago

                    Wow, that's some fast thinking.

                    **claps**


                    Originally posted by omgitznpv
                    brb suicide
                    JOIN TWG NAO!!!

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                    • Kekeb
                      davai
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 2765

                      #340
                      Re: jTWG XLVI: Chicago

                      Originally posted by sc979
                      And if I were red, why the hell would I tell xplay and kill him on the same night?
                      Safety on Kirth for now, SC being red doesn't really make much sense in this case.

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                      • sc979
                        FFR Player
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 1644

                        #341
                        Re: jTWG XLVI: Chicago

                        Originally posted by dorama
                        GOD A&*(Q#(@&%(@%(&
                        god
                        god
                        i suck
                        i am human
                        i apologize for any and all inconveniences this has brought
                        what the hell.


                        I can't really do much more at this point. But whatever. argo. You guys seem to be ignoring his incredibly fishy behavior at the beginning of the game. Unless there was something that proved him human that I missed?
                        ...

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                        • Kekeb
                          davai
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 2765

                          #342
                          Re: jTWG XLVI: Chicago

                          Originally posted by sc979


                          I can't really do much more at this point. But whatever. argo. You guys seem to be ignoring his incredibly fishy behavior at the beginning of the game. Unless there was something that proved him human that I missed?
                          He was seered green, but this does not prove his humanity.

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                          • sc979
                            FFR Player
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 1644

                            #343
                            Re: jTWG XLVI: Chicago

                            oh crap. I forgot that I was told dorama was human after all. But I don't see a reason for argo to defend him if he was a wolf...
                            ...

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                            • dooey100
                              FFR Player
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 370

                              #344
                              Re: jTWG XLVI: Chicago

                              Originally posted by Kekeb
                              Safety on Kirth for now
                              If this is a vote you should bold it.

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                              • argo15
                                FFR Veteran
                                • May 2006
                                • 1863

                                #345
                                Re: jTWG XLVI: Chicago

                                I'm keping my vote on heavy if its not heavy then its temote. I thought it wasn't very likely sc was a wolf. I thought kekeb was probably the other fake psychic out of the two.

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