On the subject of Toxicity/Community Check-in (TWG)

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[Funnygurl555]

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you wanna explain how i don't understand your post or what

and do i post like an infant to you

[XelNya]

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2) xel and mml are (imo understandably) confused about how they should act in twg. i get that social rules can be a bit hard to define, but i think that rules aganst toxicity should be delineated.

I think you didn't understand my post, like at all.

mml, if it helps, i think what really gets to people is when what you say is disproportionately mean compared to what someone else says.

I've attempted to respond to this nicely like 50X, and I just can't

you literally cannot post more than like a fucking infant like that

you can't

[FreezinIce]

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go to 3:03 to see my attempt at fake claiming against xiz

3:46 for worst case ontario

I was originally just going to go to the timestamps but i watched the whole thing in a mesmerised stupor


Wow

[Charu]

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Make me mod and I'll give everyone free bird ups

[_Zenith_]

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yeah adam was the one who was like "yoshl get checked into a mental institute" and really nasty shit

Yeah, and I thought he said something along the lines of someone's life not mattering or alluding to someone taking their lives, but Adam was definitely a prime example of the level of toxicity that would get you permanently banned from this community.

[inDheart]

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I think i said most of my thoughts on the matter in the postgame thread.

Maybe my tolerance for verbal abuse is not the norm but for the most part i didnt see anything egregious in the game i hosted.

The only time insults seemed to be close to crossing into the "wtf" territory is when shadowgod was ranting at raeko and insulting subaru. But even then i didnt really feel it was my place to interject and police the way the game is being played.

Maybe i should've. Maybe i will in the future. I will definitely be more cognizant of that fact.

any time you would get to a level of "policing" that's not "chill fam tbh pls fam" either in DM/PM or in the thread, i think it becomes a twg-mod-worthy question

like if things are going batshit wild and people are telling you as much, and you post a general warning to quit the batshit wilding, if it continues after that it's like. go get backup

maybe the enemy zero game could've benefited from me doing a modpost tbh. i don't claim to be perfect

[Funnygurl555]

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mml, if it helps, i think what really gets to people is when what you say is disproportionately mean compared to what someone else says. like bugkid was p darn nice in the game but you were insulting them

i hope this thread doesn't make you wanna leave though. i actually really like playing with you and your posts don't get on my nerves personally 'cause i know you don't really mean them

[Funnygurl555]

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Well I think Charu is absolutely right, we’re all here And talking about this in general because we love the game, and it is unfortunate, because I agree that censoring is not the answer. I’d be interested to see what funnygurl has to say about the issue as she mentioned another TWG community elsewhere that toxicity didn’t seem to be present in (in the postgame thread) and I’m curious whether that’s to do with any rules the forums over there might have or if it’s more to do with the different personalities that happen to play over there

ok yeah i'm home now so i'll finally actually post stuff

first of all toxic isn't an exaggeration it accurately describes what the community is like during games. there's a culture here of hostility and deprecation of people's characters or intelligence. (not to mention that this place is a little cliquey y ' a l l but it's whatever though that's some high school shit but i miss it when other ffr people would just hop on down. there ain't that kinda energy around twg anymore and i miss it). anyways y'all have made me want to sub out of games, sometimes i'm out here wanting to leave twg, and i believe that i'm a pretty tough cookie. imagine how others feel.

yeah, check out the syndicate. i've played with nanook there. even though i was a newbie they welcomed me with open arms. not to mention they actually go out of their way to get to know newbies. i'm sure they're not perfect and have their issues but like man, what a crew. i haven't played in a while tho maybe i'll go back

so anyways one actionable recommendation i have is to have a twg vet available to chat with people who are uncomfortable while playing a game. i wanted to chat with bugkid but couldn't because we were both still in it (i'm sure others had their back though). sometimes players, especially newbies, need to feel supported. i'd be happy to step back for a couple of games and be that person if need be.

ok i'm not done. two more things:

1) i want to see this community grow. i love y'all but without active recruiting ffr twg's gonna die out. some of us will get busy, others will get tired of the game. we /need/ a steady stream of newcomers-- it's not a question of whether we /want/ them.

2) xel and mml are (imo understandably) confused about how they should act in twg. i get that social rules can be a bit hard to define, but i think that rules aganst toxicity should be delineated.

i'd be a good mod thanks

[mellonxcollie]

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go to 3:03 to see my attempt at fake claiming against xiz

3:46 for worst case ontario

[T-Force]

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so in a worst case Ontario he could break out a ban.

LMAO! I don't know if that was intentional or not, but I love this!

I think star is the mf queen of making super strong arguments without being aggressive at all. but unfortunately I doubt she would want to be a mod but if she would, I would totally support it

Oh hell yeah. Star is a good player to study for this.

[T-Force]

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Yeah, I think personal relationships are a weird factor into all this. Having person A say something to C, but having B say the exact same thing to C could lead to different reactions all based on what's said.
But, that's also something to keep an eye depending on what's said and how that can skew the perceptions of people D, E, F, etc. They might view it as toxic even if that's not the intention.

[mellonxcollie]

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My vote for mod would be T-Force. He's a global mod already so he has all the permissions that come with that, so in a worst case Ontario he could break out a ban.

Also he's a very level headed player and I think he would be a good judge of what is too far/over the line

Its probably got no exceptions that, if you've been playing the game for as long as most of us have, you've been toxic at least once.

I think star is the mf queen of making super strong arguments without being aggressive at all. but unfortunately I doubt she would want to be a mod but if she would, I would totally support it

[mellonxcollie]

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shadowgod was ranting at raeko

me and lewdy are tight as heck and I knew I was gonna piss him off by even bringing that up lol. I was totally fine with the way he reacted.

I feel like it should be up to the players and not the host to decide what crosses the line. Hosts can't be expected to understand the personal relationships and boundaries between each player.

Like for me and Lewdy we both share a love for Asuka and tsundere characters. me calling him a perv and him telling me to shut up or he will put me into a nursing home is all in good fun and a way to show we care in a weird tsundere way. we are dedicated fully to anime lifestyle

[YoshL]

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yeah adam was the one who was like "yoshl get checked into a mental institute" and really nasty shit