jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

[Jtehanonymous]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

There is one thing I ask of everyone still kicking:
DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES PLACES ANY VOTES OFF THE BAT. WE ARE POTENTIALLY AT A CASE OF MISLYNCH-AND-LOSE (hereby known as MYLO). IF WE DO NOT HIT A WOLF, WE POTENTIALLY LOSE AND LET'S NOT HAVE THAT HAPPEN.

And here I found something that's actually useful, within the last few pages, go figure~

if we currently live in the world where both Riot and Flashy were town then this needs to be reiterated, especially because of the overly dumb bickering that's happening right now. Just think before you throw a wild vote out.

[Jtehanonymous]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

I'll just talk to myself though that's okay I'm used to it~

Things to note that I saw at this last EOD that were revealing to me:

ben coming up with even more convoluted reasoning and then feeling a need to strengthen it when called out by t-force. He had all sorts of cases for I vote Melissa, else I vote dfr etc. Why bother going through such a process, looked very lazy/inhibited.

The very fact that there was such traction and a split gives me hope about that lynch because it wasn't just an easy rollover like the last lynch. Someone had an ulterior motive/interest in that lynch for it to be very intense/divided.

Of course red blaster is seen insisting on lynching melissa over and over again when the only substantial reasoning I have on her is her creepy EOD behavior both last phase and this phase. Potentially protecting dfr or something.

[benguino]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

Melissa isn't even on my radar anymore.

Perhaps because she's slipped under the radar? I think you put too much weight on how you feel about the most recent events which thinking about them in the context of what's previously happened.

What's changed between before eod and now to make you think that Tiloco and I are the wolves (when before you had me as town I believe). (And I can ask the same question in reverse regarding Melissa). I would guess that it's likely how I behaved during eod but I don't want to make assumptions.

[benguino]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

Regarding eod last phase, my goal was to get Melissa to participate in eod because I thought that her thoughts (had she showed up) would have been interesting and informative to town if she was put on the spot like that and information in crucial especially in a game with no card flips.

I did have a more scummy read on DFR, but I've been trying to learn how to use my vote not only as a statistic for eod but also as a tool to gather more information and to better scumhunt. And sometimes that means not necessarily voting on who you think is the scummiest but voting in a way that reaps the most rewards and advances town closer to victory. This is the first time I'm trying this strategy so I'm sorry if I'm not doing the best at it :/

[Jtehanonymous]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

I don't see the need in apologizing for not being able to incite action out of someone else. that's beyond your control and the most that can be done is just voting.

How comfortable were you being the one to insta? If Melissa came in the thread and posted, you said that she would essentially vote for dfr anyways, so why did you do the insta there? Were you just more sure on dfr than leaving it to a kitb?

[T-Force]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

Here's what I'm gathering.

Red is pretty sold on a wolf duo of reuben and tiloco.
Tiloco is sold on Red Blaster and reuben.


Jteh, reuben, if there are 2 wolves left, d oyou have any ideas as to the combo may be?

[Jtehanonymous]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

If two wolves remain, I believe that Melissa certainly has to be one of them.

Given how intense and divided the last lynch was, I feel very good about a wolf between dfr and melissa. So if two wolves remain, Melissa is one.

Following this, I would branch out to Reuben as the second wolf. Reuben has prodded Melissa during the game, but then made that very awkward transition last lynch between dfr and melissa. He could have done that out of protecting melissa. Benguina did explain a bit of what just occurred, but I'd be hard-pressed to still get that possibility out of my mind.

[tiloco217]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

I'm actually sold on it being red/DFR not red/reuben. That being said if I had to give a second lynch it would be reuben since Melissa is most definitely not DFR's partner and I am reading you as town that leaves Jteh and reuben. I think they were both towny yesterday and for very similar reasons but reuben's weird bit at eod would probably swing him back behind Jteh.

[Red Blaster]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

I can't wait for the seer reaults.

[T-Force]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

Alright guys, might as well say this before phase ends because lol too late for wolves to change picks:

Hi all, I'm your resident seer!
Night 1, I picked Red Blaster to seer, and he came back as HUMAN (sorry tiloco).

Night 2, I went for reuben. I decided to play a bit of a trap card when I said the seer should go for tiloco, but he picked it up and outed that plot so that sucks.
Hopefully I'll have a read on him to share in a moment.

[Cold Kitten]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

In the night....

T-Force was killed!

Day 2 has begun and the phase will end January 25th, 2015 at 10 PM Server Time.


PLAYERS

1. T-Force - Killed N2
2. Funnygurl555 - Killed N1
3. Riotpolice - Lynched D0
4. Red Blaster
5. reuben_tate
6. lynn34melissa
7. tiloco217
8. Jtehanonymous
9. danceflashrevo - Lynched D1

[Red Blaster]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

So any doubts that tiloco is wolf?

[Red Blaster]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

Who is strangely absent now despite being in the thread up until the night phase ended

[Red Blaster]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

Jteh? Ben?
Thoughts?

[benguino]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

I don't see the need in apologizing for not being able to incite action out of someone else. that's beyond your control and the most that can be done is just voting.

How comfortable were you being the one to insta? If Melissa came in the thread and posted, you said that she would essentially vote for dfr anyways, so why did you do the insta there? Were you just more sure on dfr than leaving it to a kitb?

You pretty much answered your own question :P Like I said before, I had a scummier read on DFR compared to Melissa so that's why I changed my vote back to DFR in the last few minutes of eod when I gave up hope that Melissa was going to show up.

Here's what I'm gathering.

Red is pretty sold on a wolf duo of reuben and tiloco.
Tiloco is sold on Red Blaster and reuben.


Jteh, reuben, if there are 2 wolves left, d oyou have any ideas as to the combo may be?

Currently, the people remaining (other than myself) would be T-force, Red, Melissa, Tiloco, and Jteh. The C(5,2)=10 possible combinations are:
T-Force / Red
T-Force / Melissa
T-Force / Tiloco
T-Force / Jteh
Red / Melissa
Red / Tiloco
Red / Jteh
Melissa / Tiloco
Melissa / Jteh
Tiloco / Jteh

Myself (and the majority of town I believe) have been reading you as town for pretty much this whole game wit, so that leaves:
Red / Melissa
Red / Tiloco
Red / Jteh
Melissa / Tiloco
Melissa / Jteh
Tiloco / Jteh

I feel like the back and forth between Red and Tiloco this entire game feels genuine/natural and doesn't look like awkward bussing or anything of the sort, so I'm ok with eliminating that option. Similarly, with the votes he's thrown on Melissa and Jteh and his interactions with them, I feel like Red can't be a wolf because I just can't seem to match a partner with him.

So that leaves:
Melissa / Tiloco
Melissa / Jteh
Tiloco / Jteh

But I have a hard time believing Tiloco and Jteh are a pair because Tiloco was the first to give a serious reads list in the beginning of the game, if he was wolf it'd be risky to vote for jteh since that could potentially start a D0 bandwagon (because pretty much all of town is grasping for anything to work with in D0).

So that leaves:
Melissa / Tiloco
Melissa / Jteh

Given that I've had some suspicions on both Melissa and Tiloco before, I wouldn't be surprised of the wolf pair (I can't think of anything at the moment that would make them unlikely to be a pair).

And a Melissa/Jteh pair isn't what I would first think, but it's nothing bizarre either.

With all that said, between my two thoughts for the wolf pairings, Melissa is in both of them, so by process of elimination, I think she should be considered for today's lynch.