Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread
reading over your combinations ben, I agree that a pairing between tiloco and myself is very unlikely because he was on me so readily that first phase. Why on earth would he do that?
But however, I will tell you that a pairing with me and melissa also pretty preposterous. I dragged her with questioning and have been trying to point out just how much she's going downhill throughout the entire game. Why would I keep drawing attention to her like that when i could essentially let her be? Just before the second lynch I was all over her lack of substance in her posts before shortly grilling dfr as well. So again, I think you should consider that and the pairing between melissa and I is a lot less likely.
Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread
That's a good, point, I hadn't considered that (I was trying to work from memory when doing my eliminations).
So that would only leave Tiloco and Melissa as the wolf pair (however, this is only under the premise that there actually are two wolves out there which may or may not be the case. I forgot to point that out in my last post, so the Melissa lynch is only a good idea in that case).
Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread
Or it would leave Tiloco and you as the wolves in a two wolf world. After all, he felt very negatively about you in the beginning as well, but then you ROCKETED up his town list and were top town behind t force. When i have suspicions on somehow, I find it much much harder to assimilate someone back into town. He could be protecting you since this is a no flip game.
ben, in a one wolf world, who would the other wolf be? First reason from riot being a wolf, then reason from dfr being a wolf.
Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread
Then there are six combinations to consider:
Riot / Melissa
Riot / Tiloco
Riot / Jteh
DFR / Melissa
DFR / Tiloco
DFR / Jteh
I highly doubt that Riot / Tiloco would be a wolf pair since Tiloco was a major force in riot's lynch and his giving up. I can maybe see DFR / Tiloco being a pair? Tiloco's "soft" vote on him struck me as a little weird as well as him "hard" vote to "match" my vote on Melissa in addition to his unvote later. Then again, a lot of people found my actions to be awkward as well during eod so idk.
After some inspection, I can see a Riot / Melissa pair being something. She excused herself from posting anything because she was "confused" and "the reads list was frustrating", which of course would definitely be the case of the two of them were wolves, I'd be confused what to do to if I rolled wolf in my first game ever and my only partner is in danger of being lynched on D0.
Originally posted by lynn34melissa
During the EOD i considered insta-lynching riot, but didn't due to the fact that I believed him town. It seems that people voted him out because of his posts (his posts voiced his frustration with attempting to seem town - presumably being a townie- and the inability to project it successfully, as well as his non-explanations for his votes). I didn't post anything in part because I was a bit confused, and the reads list was frustrating.
To be honest, I only skimmed the thread for D1, so I forget the exact reasoning why town agreed that DFR / Melissa pair isn't a possible pair. I'll eliminate that pair for now and check back in the thread...I'm sure it's a stupidly obvious reason and I'm just not thinking straight at the moment.
As for the Riot/Jteh combo, Jteh was defending Riot a little bit before the lynch. I found it odd that he didn't really defend Riot too much though before his lynch but in the following night and day phase, he started making more of a big deal out of it (e.g. quoting riot and bolding the genuine sounding parts). However, this discrepancy could just be because he simply wasn't around for the last hour of eod and if he were around, there is a chance he would have made an effort to better defend riot.
I highly doubt that we have a DFR / Jteh combo though. Jteh was the person that started the DFR and he started it with a good handful of reasoning and evidence (as opposed to saying "<twgv>riot</twgv>, k bye").
So that leaves:
Riot / Jteh
Riot / Melissa
DFR / Tiloco
Statistics-wise, each person appears once lol. However, if I had to choose between who looked more scummy: DFR or Riot, then I'd go with DFR. I think a lot of people (myself included) voted for riotpolice on the basis that even if he wasn't a wolf, we'd at least be lynching a seemingly useless town. And after re-evaluating his posts again during D1, I'm led to believe that he was a townie that eventually just felt defeated and didn't know what to do "to please town".
So because cOmBiNaTiOnS, I'd go for Tiloco as someone to consider for today's lynch.
Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread
Originally posted by Jtehanonymous
Or it would leave Tiloco and you as the wolves in a two wolf world. After all, he felt very negatively about you in the beginning as well, but then you ROCKETED up his town list and were top town behind t force. When i have suspicions on somehow, I find it much much harder to assimilate someone back into town. He could be protecting you since this is a no flip game.
You have a good point. If you're looking for an answer for why I shot up his town's list though, he's the only one that would be able to give the answer. Speculating however, I think it was my page-flood that we was fond of.
What do you think of us being a pair now after my combination analysis points to me wanting to have him lynched today?
Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread
Originally posted by reuben_tate
To be honest, I only skimmed the thread for D1, so I forget the exact reasoning why town agreed that DFR / Melissa pair isn't a possible pair. I'll eliminate that pair for now and check back in the thread...I'm sure it's a stupidly obvious reason and I'm just not thinking straight at the moment.
With this, I believe the reasoning goes as follows:
dfr wouldn't have made the kill on funnygurl night one because he had fg as his only major red lean. (he was the only one to find her suspicious)
If Melissa was dfr's partner, dfr would probably be calling the shots and saying who they should kill each night because dfr is the more experienced player.
That's why people fell off the idea of melissa/dfr pairing.
Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread
Originally posted by reuben_tate
You have a good point. If you're looking for an answer for why I shot up his town's list though, he's the only one that would be able to give the answer. Speculating however, I think it was my page-flood that we was fond of.
What do you think of us being a pair now after my combination analysis points to me wanting to have him lynched today?
Yeah, I'll wait on tiloco to explain how his reads on you have evolved throughout the game and why, hearing that may help me make a decision.
After reading over all your combinations you've presented and following your logic of throwing out pairings one by one, I now want to lynch between tiloco and you. T-force attempted to seer you so there is that lingering thought in the back of my mind there. For Tiloco, he was the public "seer" target and yet wolves did not attack him which could very well mean he is a wolf and clearly couldn't "attack" himself.
Melissa is obviously the final choice for me right now.
I don't want to jump on anything at present and need Tiloco in here first and responding before I decide.
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