jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

[Red Blaster]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

Because it obviously points put that someone wanted him dead.

[Red Blaster]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

Out*

[Jtehanonymous]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

Doesn't everything have a meaning?

Sure, fair point.

However, you stated that T-force's death would be a dumb move for Tiloco, so Tiloco wouldn't have killed T-force.

However, how would Tiloco know to kill T-force in the first place? (Seer wasn't revealed at that time) So in the midst of your argument, I don't think you can use T-force's death to draw any powerful conclusions.

[lynn34melissa]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

it's still a good effort even if it didn't provide enough personal opinion.

Is it not possible that a wolf lynched their partner in order to win the game?
Is it not possible that we have a very aggressive wolf that appears human?
But what if we have a quiet wolf?
Is it not possible that both wolves are still in play?
In any event does anyone else see a different pattern?

The whole thing is personal opinion, everyone would answer the question differently.

[Jtehanonymous]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

If tiloco was wolf it would explain the desire to kill t-fore who asked for a seeding, however killing t-force would be a stupid move to make that night. In this case I believe t-force was killed in order to cast suspicion on tiloco.

Tiloco asked for that seering as well. T-force only ever pushed someone to seer Tiloco.

The conclusion doesn't follow because the power to seer Tiloco wasn't evidently in T-force's hands at that time.

[Red Blaster]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

Seer was claimed 2-3 minutes before end of phase. I've never wolfed before, but I assume they can change their kill target at will any time before night is over.

[Jtehanonymous]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

I saw you make that point earlier and I don't see it as being very likely.

Someone would need to be camping here roughly 2 minutes before T-force's post, not even knowing that T-force would pull something like that.

Next, the person would need to quickly read it over, realize it's deleterious to them, then already have a window open and ready to change the kill, making the correct actions.

For that to all occur in under two minutes seems very unlikely to me. It'd be so peremptory.

[lynn34melissa]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

Sure, fair point.

However, you stated that T-force's death would be a dumb move for Tiloco, so Tiloco wouldn't have killed T-force.

However, how would Tiloco know to kill T-force in the first place? (Seer wasn't revealed at that time) So in the midst of your argument, I don't think you can use T-force's death to draw any powerful conclusions.

If tiloco were wolf it would it not be a good idea to kill any opposition or anyone that could try to get him killed? He wouldn't need to know if T-force were seer in order to get rid of him, and besides didn't T-force admit that Tiloco did a nice job at drawing the attention away from himself. This I can even conclude because the seer himself "T-force" didn't seer Tiloco in the end.

[Jtehanonymous]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

Yes, on those grounds, I can agree with you that Tiloco could have killed T-force simply to quiet the idea that he needed to be looked at for future phases.

However, that is a very obvious kill reason to make for Tiloco though, so I question the strength there.

[lynn34melissa]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

For that to all occur in under two minutes seems very unlikely to me. It'd be so peremptory.

That is exactly my point. T-force was not killed because he outed himself as seer. Since this is the case who would want him dead? Does anyone have a theory?

[lynn34melissa]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

However, that is a very obvious kill reason to make for Tiloco though, so I question the strength there.

now you understand why i thought it would be a stupid move.

[Jtehanonymous]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

T-force cast quite a bit of suspicion on Benguina and obviously was concerned about Tiloco enough to want him seered. either of them could have wanted him dead in my eyes.

What I'm unsure of is that T-force didn't actually follow through this that seering. Instead, he just planted the seed that Tiloco was someone to look at.

[Jtehanonymous]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

now you understand why i thought it would be a stupid move.

I completely misinterpreted what you meant earlier. I thought you went further to say that because Tiloco knew he would be seered by T-force, he made that kill.

I understand where you're coming from now.

[Red Blaster]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

I saw you make that point earlier and I don't see it as being very likely.

Someone would need to be camping here roughly 2 minutes before T-force's post, not even knowing that T-force would pull something like that.

Next, the person would need to quickly read it over, realize it's deleterious to them, then already have a window open and ready to change the kill, making the correct actions.

For that to all occur in under two minutes seems very unlikely to me. It'd be so peremptory.

Considering the only person who wasn't here, in thread, at end of night was Melissa it's certainly a possibility. Also given that the wolf(s) would've almost certainly had the QT open due to it being night talk it really isn't that far of a stretch to assume it could've affected their night kill.

[lynn34melissa]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

And in the end T-force went to seer Reuben. Doesn't that indicate that T-force was more concerned with Bens play?