jTWG LIX (59): Back In Black

[DarkManticoreX2]

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Gave up on story for the moment

(4) Yo Man I'm Awesome - Vendetta21, Viccica, Emerald000, James May
(1) James May - Yo Man I'm Awesome

Yo Man I'm Awesome has been killed. He was the Master Wolf

1. Gun92 (james92hofmann@hotmail.com)
2. FictionJunction (fikshonjunkshon)
3. Viccica (MMViccica)
4. Vendetta21 (Thenamesalec)
5. yo_man_im_awesome (mppanther131)
6. Little_Bear (wee.micky@hotmail.com)
7. Lumphoboextreme (steve123312)
8. James May (midigami44)
9. Krauthammer (nflorezrojas@gmail.com)
10. J-Rodd123 (jarrodpsutka@hotmail.com)
11. NetJet! (ShadowFFR)
12. Emerald000 (emerald3x0)

It is now Night 4. Night 4 will end Tuesday 1/22/13 at 11:59 pm EST

My AIM is DarkManticorex2. I'm here for any questions you may have.

[James May]

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With James May, have you forgotten his little "What's the flip incident"? It doesn't matter how new you are to a game, that should be common sense that a night phase's flip will be human at this point.

I was having an "hurr durr" moment x.x

[James May]

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AND I FUCKING KNEW IT lmfao

[yo man im awesome]

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All good things must come to an end, I suppose.

It was fun playing TWG. I gotta say, huge weight off of my shoulder's not having to think about this now.

I can't wait to play more games.

[Viccica]

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Well that's a relief.

[Viccica]

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So all in favor of the shitstorm tactic next phase?

[James May]

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So all in favor of the shitstorm tactic next phase?

Well that depends huehue.

[DarkManticoreX2]

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No need to wait, I have all necessary PMs.


Emerald000 has been killed. He was a Human

1. Gun92 (james92hofmann@hotmail.com)
2. FictionJunction (fikshonjunkshon)
3. Viccica (MMViccica)
4. Vendetta21 (Thenamesalec)
5. yo_man_im_awesome (mppanther131)
6. Little_Bear (wee.micky@hotmail.com)
7. Lumphoboextreme (steve123312)
8. James May (midigami44)
9. Krauthammer (nflorezrojas@gmail.com)
10. J-Rodd123 (jarrodpsutka@hotmail.com)
11. NetJet! (ShadowFFR)
12. Emerald000 (emerald3x0)

It is now Day 4. Day 4 will end Thursday 1/24/13 at 11:59 pm EST

My AIM is DarkManticorex2. I'm here for any questions you may have.

[Vendetta21]

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j-rodd

round 2 go

[j-rodd123]

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do NOT do that

V and Kraut are the last wolves, I am willing to bet on it

please vic and james do not rush into that vote or it's game over. i have stuff to tell you on AIM and we can win the game

[j-rodd123]

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and may as well before anyone talks to me do this yet again

V

[Krauthammer]

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Okay, let's do this.

Vendetta21

The reasoning is fairly simple, and divided in three points:

1. Why hasn't he been killed yet?

It has been widely spread that Vendetta is an experienced player that could very well be the best one there is right now. In the general tier, he would fit just below Fiction, if the information I have been told is true. But why is he still alive?

The kills has been following a certain pattern: Gun92, then Fiction, then Little Bear, then emerald. Every player except Little Bear are known to have played many games here on FFR before, and from the players alive, Vendetta and Viccicca fit this category too. Little Bear is by far the oddest kill until this point, he doesn't fit the pattern.

Leaving that aside...

Vendetta is quite vocal, and has spend a long time of the game accusing everybody. James May is the only player alive who hasn't got a vote on by him. That is passable! But the curious part is that Vendetta has clearly tried several times to lead people around, at least in Day 1 and Day 2. He is the one who supposedly started the pressure votes on Viccicca (leading to a temporal bandwagon on her), then in Day 2 suggested to lynch between five players.

One would say the the purpose of leaving him alive could be because wolves want to blame him for something! But even then, there has only been one accusation towards Vendetta, from JRodd and Lumphobo. And looks like it didn't work, as it doesn't seem to have provoked any comment in the thread. And JRodd also commented that it is very hard to lynch an experienced player like him, who can back himself up and fight a lynch.

From a wolf's point of view: if a player is human and can't be lynched...then the most obvious move would be to get rid of him from through some other way: the wolfing. It is the last resort, I guess, but here we are, in the last phases, were a single vote can mean losing. And he is still alive, and kinda unpredictable, as far as I know, nobody has been able to talk with him...

...besides yoman.

2. His only contact so far was with yoman

"somehow yoman got in contact with him though, im seeing a bit of a connection there"

Quote from JRodd.

I think it is very obvious that Vendetta has never been on AIM. yoman himself said that he had talked with Vendetta, but how did yoman reach Vendetta? Possibly through PM.

But the point is that the only player who seems to have been able to contact Vendetta is a confirmed wolf.

I wish yoman had given more information about the sort of contact, and how he got Vendetta to reply, but still. I do believe him. The affirmation above came from JRodd, and it was on January 17. So it is obvious to suppose that yoman contacted Vendetta before, when yoman wasn't even in danger. The mere thought of lying about contacting fellow wolves wouldn't cross his mind!

3. Vendetta and yoman seems to have tried to distance themselves

I suppose we all are familiar with this post:

alright let me reiterate you should be voting for someone on this list because we know for a fact that everyone on this list is a fucking bodyguard-killer which is the biggest amount of evidence we could possibly have at this point

no one really said it but the death of a seer is huge because it allows you to confirm the status of living people, which really helps flesh out a whodunit narrative. but when you only get to know the status of dead folk, you need to use that because whatever you believe about your ability to read hunches is nowhere as good as the evidence as a cardflip or a seer, and this game is something like 75% evidence 25% hunches

these people have blood on their hands, focus on them
1. emerald000
2. viccica
3. yo man i'm awesome
4. krauthammer
5. myself

I'm going to go with yo man i'm awesome through process of elimination. I don't believe viccica or krauthammer or wolves, and emerald isn't giving me that vibe. I don't have a solid read on yo man, but his contributions are pretty milquetoast and that is why. I just don't read his posts and go "yeah that's adding to the discussion" but rather mostly gloss over them and move on. They are just enough post to be present, but not enough to have a presence.

Yeah, another accusation post from Vendetta, but do you know what is funny about this?

The timing.

As a backstory: JRodd and Lumphobo were planning to lynch Vendetta and yoman. And as we all know, Lumphobo refused to tell anybody about this! Not even here on the thread! The only player Lumphobo had shared suspicions was JRodd.

It is true that the original yoman/Vendetta suspicions were JRodd's creation, but it was still something that very few knew.

Then Vendetta made that post and vote towards yoman. Now read this chatlog.

J-Rodd
decent chance, he voted for yoman but i think that hes just trying to distance himself from yoman
i bet someone told about the connection im seeing
and hes willing to sacrifice to seem innocent
hes being very controlling and pushy, trying to make ppl feel stupid for voting for him

Krauthammer:
...That is important too! That was...let me check...
Jan 17, 2013 5:29 PM

J-Rodd
he even made a list of people with blood on their hands and included himself, just trying to be diplomatic

Krauthammer:
Today at 10:05 AM. Who have you or Lumphobo talked to around those times? Did you or Lumphobo tell your suspicions

J-Rodd
sorry?
was that pasted from somewhere?
Jan 17, 2013 5:30 PM

Krauthammer:
I'll try to explain myself. First post of page 8:
It was amde today at 10:05 AM according to the forum.
*made

If it was made to distance himself from yoman, then either you or Lumphobo talked with a wolf, or...
...it was a coincidence.
Now tell, did you or Lumphobo talk to anybody about suspicions before the time that post was done?

Jan 17, 2013 5:31 PM

J-Rodd
oh yea i was gonna review my logs lol 1 sec

and i have no idea about lumpho lol ur the only person ive talked to today

J-Rodd
ok no i didnt tell anyone else, but i did tell yoman about my suspicions of V

Hoooooooo. When did you do that?
Jan 17, 2013 5:33 PM

J-Rodd
talked to him yesterday remember

J-Rodd
and asked him about push between vic and V

Krauthammer:

Oh, it was the same chatlog. I see.
Jan 17, 2013 5:34 PM

As it can be seen, this is a chatlog from days ago. yoman, Lumphobo and JRodd are the only ones who, at that time, knew about the suspicions.

Now try to take a look to this from the mind of an inexperienced wolf:

You're being suspected. And to make it worse, you're being connected to a fellow wolf! Quick, what is the best way to lessen suspicion?

It is likely that Vendetta and yoman made the accusation to try to erase those connections. But it was too late, it was already noted and the word had spread to other players.

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To be honest, I thought that Vendetta would die last night, but he is still alive. That made me be sure about this, and I'm willing to take the risk of this. I haven't been this confident for a good time!

Also sorry if I made you all read too much. I want to make sure my logic is sound, and wanted to share it. I'm not good with accusations, so I don't have a lot of practice on that. This is like my third long accusation post ever, in my TWG experience!

As a tl;dr: yoman has been connected to Vendetta. And Vendetta is still alive despite being a menace to most wolves.

[Vendetta21]

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kraut and j-rodd are wolves together

vote j-rodd this is fucking simple

[James May]

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V

You are really pulling a desperation card man. Sorry brah.

[j-rodd123]

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