Ingame Song Information

[qqwref]

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I don't think we should have a high border on one difficulty and then a low border on the next, because then it implies that those two are very very slightly different in difficulty, with nothing between them. But what if, for instance, I find a song that is harder than Over the Frail Dream but easier than Aztec Templing? Or what if I think Radical Rat is harder than Frictional Nevada? Then we may have a problem placing songs. So I'd rather just use a "high-end" border for each difficulty.

As for the VC and FMO higher cutoffs, I do feel like there are existing FMOs that are easier than the high VCs you list, and existing FGOs that are easier than the high FMOs. Songs like Novo Mundo, Choprite, Ketsarku Mozgalom, Reality, etc. have been on the high side of their respective borders for a long time, and yet are easier than many songs that are now placed on the low side. So, I'd rather consider Vertex BETA the highest VC and Piano Etude (Gymnastics) the highest FMO. I know there are currently harder songs, but I think those do a good job of reflecting what people intuitively feel is a good cutoff.

[jimerax]

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ok removed low-ends, put additional req songs.

[Frederic54]

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Some suggestions :

4 (Easy) ==> SSSG (don't know why it's still a 4 )

8 (Very difficult) ==> MAX Forever

11 (For Masters Only) ==> Skeletor (I'm ok with Radical and ANTI-ARES, but not so much with Gymnastics)

[Guest15937]

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5 should be Clash on the Big Bridge.

[megamon88]

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FF7 Battle is one of the easiest 10s I've played. 8th note jumps, occasional 16th jumpstream and few 24th bursts don't really make this song a 10 imo. Maybe it's just because I stepped it and find everything easy about it :P (sightread AAA'd btw)

[rayword45]

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My attempt:


1 (Easiest)
High-End - Trip To The Moon (but they're all rather similar)

2 (For Beginners)
High-End - Computer Dreams

3 (Very Easy)
High-End - 100 Bar Blackout

4 (Easy)
High-End - Strawberry

5 (Standard)
High-End - ???

6 (Tricky)
High-End - Legend of Zelda, Let Mom Sleep

7 (Difficult)
High-End - Kire Kire Mayoi, Lady's Cake

8 (Very difficult)
High-End - Max Forever, Jurs OP if MF is given that necessary bump

9 (Challenging)
High-End - Dazzling Soul, elegante

10 (Very Challenging)
High-End - Counter-Strike Gun Sounds

11 (For Masters Only)
High-End - Blooddrunk, Piano Etude (Gymnastics)

12 (For Guru's Only)
High-End - Revolutionary Etude, Eclipse (Solar)

[hi19hi19]

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Indo No Sobaya- Definitely not an FGO. Only remotely hard thing is the jumptrills halfway through and maybe the jacks at the end, but that's no harder than many FMOs (i.e. I personally think it's easier than NEED ME)

Move it to 11.

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

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I agree it's more of an 11 than a 12. It's lame jacks and a few obnoxious jumptrills. The Anti Ares Kirby FMO is a lot harder. The D4 fmo is A LOT harder than this one.

[bmah]

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I only looked at the replay, but Try to Star is almost certainly a 10, and not an 11. Just find a harder 10 with a similar feel, such as Run Through the Stream of Time (not even a borderline 10), and I'm sure they're more challenging to AAA or FC. The trills in this song doesn't appear to be enormously problematic.

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

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I imagine None Would Escape and Vertex Beta and the like would be more difficult than Try to star from the looks of it.

[TC_Halogen]

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I only looked at the replay, but Try to Star is almost certainly a 10, and not an 11. Just find a harder 10 with a similar feel, such as Run Through the Stream of Time (not even a borderline 10), and I'm sure they're more challenging to AAA or FC. The trills in this song doesn't appear to be enormously problematic.

Was going to post this, but looks like someone beat me to it. Try to Star is a mid 10, max, from looking at the chart.

[hi19hi19]

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Yeah TtS felt like a mid/high 10 rather than an FMO when I played it. It's rather fast but the transitions are excellent, and the trills are not too much of a problem.

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

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It's also fun as all living hell

Can't forget that

[jimerax]

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changed TTS. Indo can be FMO, more opinions/statistics.

[hobgoblinpie]

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I reckon Sexplosion should be a 9. It has some 'tricky' parts (the fast staircase sections spring to mind), but the jacks really aren't all that hard, and I would posit that 'Can Can (Piano Version)' (A VC file) is actually a harder file to FC & AAA.

Also, I agree that Indo should be an FMO. I just tried it, and I couldn't get an FC on it (my keyboard doesn't like working fast or hitting quads), but it definitely didn't feel as hard as most FGOs that I've played, and definitely felt more in line with Mid-High FMOs.