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  • Choofers
    FFR Player
    FFR Music Producer
    • Dec 2008
    • 6205

    #91
    Re: Let harder files in ?

    i already stepped like a g666

    omg I could send that entire minipack...

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    • TC_Halogen
      Rhythm game specialist.
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Music Producer
      • Feb 2008
      • 19376

      #92
      Re: Let harder files in ?

      Originally posted by Choofers
      in all honesty, and this directed to aj's post

      judging should be geared totally different now because the new engine runs at 60 fps
      files that were previously rejected due to framers and shit should have an easier time
      Unfortunately, this is not the case. Files are still encoded at 30 FPS for the older engines.

      Frame issues still exist. Easiest way to see this is Integraation:


      (pretty sure this would be 100x cleaner at a proper 60 FPS, lol)

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      • gold stinger
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        Global Moderator
        • Jan 2007
        • 6429

        #93
        Re: Let harder files in ?

        Originally posted by mi40
        why dont u step it urself ponymon
        Already did it but

        Originally posted by gold stinger
        makes me want to step more ridiculously overlayered and improper hard shit that no one will care about playing
        you can't hit 32nd js @ 250bpm

        & 128th rolls @ 125bpm
        Originally posted by YoshL
        butts.


        - Tosh 2014






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        • Fission
          no
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jan 2004
          • 1850

          #94
          Re: Let harder files in ?

          Originally posted by gold stinger
          all these people stepping
          my point ---------------->






          you

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          • samurai7694
            바보
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Aug 2008
            • 4640

            #95
            Re: Let harder files in ?

            just curious: Is there a rule on what patterns to use/not to use on certain speeds?

            I'm just wondering if there's a line between using any random patterns for streams and resorting to using easy roll/spin patterns otherwise causing it to be too hard. This also applies to jacks, trills, etc. Any thoughts?

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              • Apr 2012
              • 1907

              #96
              Re: Let harder files in ?

              Originally posted by gold stinger
              you can't hit 32nd js @ 250bpm

              & 128th rolls @ 125bpm
              who says

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              • Charu
                Snivy! Dohoho!
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Mar 2006
                • 6207

                #97
                Re: Let harder files in ?

                I don't know if there's a rule, but I think it's safe to say don't put 16th jacks to like say... 200BPM and above unless it's something that's for a very short duration, dohoho.

                I don't know, it feels like there's people that can do jacks at that speed and even other patterns in that speed without too many issues.

                Complications... complications...


                Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                Had a very shiny nose
                And if you ever saw it
                You could even say it glows

                All of the other Snivies
                Used to laugh and call him names
                They never let poor Charu
                Join in any Snivy games

                (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                Originally posted by Vendetta21
                All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                • XelNya
                  [Kaho]
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 3369

                  #98
                  Re: Let harder files in ?

                  Originally posted by samurai7694
                  just curious: Is there a rule on what patterns to use/not to use on certain speeds?
                  You just need to think of what is reasonable to most players. Such as you really don't want to use 32nd trills at say 175 bpm or so. I would say use your best judgement, but don't just think of "will a great player be able to do this" and think of "will a good player be able to do this." I can't really phrase this well, but I hope you get where I'm going with it.

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                  • samurai7694
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                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 4640

                    #99
                    Re: Let harder files in ?

                    I'll admit that I go overboard a lot when stepping hard charts, and think whether or not to step a song a certain way because "the top players can do it" OR to just go by the average and keep things no faster than...let's say...280 bpm for streams, or no faster than 170 bpm for 16th note jacks.

                    Perhaps I missed this somewhere but I don't recall there being a guideline of any sort that says not to pass a certain BPM for certain patterns other than obvious 192nd note vibrawalls. More feedback, please and thanks.

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                    • DossarLX ODI
                      Batch Manager
                      Game Manager
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 15009

                      #100
                      Re: Let harder files in ?

                      Patterns involving jumps are going to be a lot harder on FFR than stepmania.

                      Revolutionary Etude is loads easier on stepmania than FFR for instance because you can hit a bunch of extra jumps and still AAA the long jack section -- you just need to make sure you don't fall behind.

                      Just watch out for very fast minijacks, fast one handed gallops right next to each other, and hidden jacks/one handed trills. Longer jacks are also hard when jumps are involved. By fast minijacks I mean that anything above 225 bpm is seriously pushing it. 225 is the end of the 2 frame placement line, and after 225 you start entering the chance of 1 frame placements.
                      Last edited by DossarLX ODI; 07-22-2013, 02:15 PM.
                      Originally posted by hi19hi19
                      oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                      • Charu
                        Snivy! Dohoho!
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 6207

                        #101
                        Re: Let harder files in ?

                        I'd be down for a guideline to use what patterns at what speed. But not use it as a set and stone type of thing.


                        Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                        Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                        Had a very shiny nose
                        And if you ever saw it
                        You could even say it glows

                        All of the other Snivies
                        Used to laugh and call him names
                        They never let poor Charu
                        Join in any Snivy games

                        (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                        Originally posted by Vendetta21
                        All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                        • One Winged Angel
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                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 10837

                          #102
                          Re: Let harder files in ?

                          fjords, fjords everywhere


                          Originally posted by ilikexd
                          i want to be cucked by cirno

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                          • Choofers
                            FFR Player
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 6205

                            #103
                            Re: Let harder files in ?

                            simple fix

                            phase out older engines

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                              Banned
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 1907

                              #104
                              Re: Let harder files in ?

                              Originally posted by Charu
                              I'd be down for a guideline to use what patterns at what speed. But not use it as a set and stone type of thing.
                              next thing you know we'll have strict rules on what to step and when to do it

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                              • SK8R43
                                D7 Elite Keymasher
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 4684

                                #105
                                Re: Let harder files in ?

                                Originally posted by Choofers
                                simple fix

                                phase out older engines
                                HAHAHAHAHAHAHA very funny dooder....
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