TWG LXII: Cthulhu Rising

[devonin]

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ITT hilarious irony that won't become properly appreciated until the game is over.

[thunderstrike687]

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lol i cant caps evade anymore

[thunderstrike687]

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PS BDN was probably a wolf and that has nothing to do with devonins post for reals

[x3Mamimi]

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I... gave up.

[devonin]

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I guess we'll let random.org pick a wolfing, and fail to have a seering or guarding when nobody sends in any PMs at all, and then end the game.

Or something.

[flawofhumanity]

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i love the activity in this thread

[GamerShadow]

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Alright, time to turn this game up a notch. It may be nighttime, but I am going to throw down who I think is a wolf and why. If I get wolfed, the info I had is right here in the thread for you guys to use, and if I don't get wolfed, then

EnR, dooey, Manti (who was wolved so that isn't right), and pnt (lynched.)

I'll start with dooey, who has been acting rather suspicious this game. He decides to claim seer night 1. Now, if he truly were the seer, he would not come out at night, whether or not there are counterclaims. He'd get wolfed if there were no other claims, and he'd get lynched if there were, due to the fact that anybody that counterclaims dies along with the original claimer. And if he's a wolf, the real seer will do what he does best and seer him to be a wolf. (If he's MW he'll be seered green which contradicts his seer claim.)

That last paragraph means that dooey would not claim if he really were the seer, and that he is a wolf, who is getting any needed support from his fellow wolves (which is none because nobody has seriously accused him of anything with proof.)

Also, dooey's decision to seer Hoochan, who has not been active at all this game, (he posted saying he would be very busy for some time to come.) is highly suspicious. Why would you waste a seering on somebody who is simply going to be phantoming anyway? If he comes back when we have killed a few wolves, then just lynch him. He'll have nothing to hide behind.

Next is EnR. I had an AIM convo with him night 1. Two things of note here:

TwilightxShade (3:24:48 PM): Hey
RyanFFR (3:25:16 PM): yoo
TwilightxShade (3:25:22 PM): You're in the TWG, right?
TwilightxShade (3:25:26 PM): The one that is going on now
RyanFFR (3:25:40 PM): no
TwilightxShade (3:25:56 PM): Yeah you are...
RyanFFR (3:25:59 PM): rofl
TwilightxShade (3:26:00 PM): 16. EnR (RyanFFR)
RyanFFR (3:26:02 PM): damn it
RyanFFR (3:26:07 PM): I was gunna ask you your role

He tries to trick me into thinking that he is not in the current TWG so he can ask my role. Why? He never claimed human at the start of the game, but I did. So he obviously wants to see if the claim was true. He wouldn't need to know if I was red because all wolves know who the other wolves are from the start of the game. So he wanted to know if I was blue or green. Either way, he knows that he can use me when the wolves have nobody good to kill.

The second point is halfway through the rather short conversation to the end:

TwilightxShade (5:32:20 PM): You know what I just realized
RyanFFR (5:32:25 PM): wut
TwilightxShade (5:32:27 PM): Anybody who is mentioned during an attack
TwilightxShade (5:32:30 PM): can't be a wolf
TwilightxShade (5:32:35 PM): Think about it
TwilightxShade (5:32:40 PM): the wolves are the cloaked figures
TwilightxShade (5:32:41 PM): right?
RyanFFR (5:32:44 PM): yea
RyanFFR (5:32:49 PM): yea but think
TwilightxShade (5:32:53 PM): Anybody who is there isn't a cloaked figure
RyanFFR (5:33:03 PM): the cloaked figures are normal dressed at the time
TwilightxShade (5:33:09 PM): not at night
TwilightxShade (5:33:24 PM): At night, they are cloaked figures
RyanFFR (5:33:26 PM): they got to the kill scene 3 hours after
RyanFFR (5:33:31 PM): in the morning
RyanFFR (5:33:47 PM): they were normal people by then
TwilightxShade (5:33:47 PM): they did? What about the first post?
TwilightxShade (5:33:58 PM): The cloaked figures were in the first post
TwilightxShade (5:34:04 PM): as cloaked figures
TwilightxShade (5:34:46 PM): See?
TwilightxShade (5:34:47 PM): Just as Makilaz finished this ominous pronouncement, the lights in the chapel suddenly cut out. Amidst the shocked screams and cries, four voices intoned loudly

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

The doors of the chapel burst open and everyone fled for their lives, rushing to their homes to lock their doors, and bar their windows. Everyone that is, except for four, dark figures with a dark purpose, and one. Panicked, near to fainting, their first victim, taken just after sunset right out from under the watchful eyes of Man and God.
TwilightxShade (5:35:09 PM): So anybody mentioned in the first post cannot be a wolf
RyanFFR (5:35:36 PM): he picks randomly
RyanFFR (5:35:44 PM): and the roles in the story randomly
TwilightxShade (5:35:58 PM): But how can a person who was clearly mentioned as something in post 1
TwilightxShade (5:36:03 PM): be a cloaked figure in the same post
RyanFFR (5:36:31 PM): k so you're saying mak isn't wolf
TwilightxShade (5:36:55 PM): I believe lito was mentioned in post 1
TwilightxShade (5:36:56 PM): as a doctor
TwilightxShade (5:37:29 PM): pnt is a detective

In the first post of this thread, I missed the part where Devonin says that the roles in the story do not correlate to the roles in the game in anyway. So EnR doesn't say anything about my misperception of the story after I am done asserting my point, and decides to let me think this way to make the false claim and make a complete fool out of myself.

[dooey100]

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Alright, time to turn this game up a notch. It may be nighttime, but I am going to throw down who I think is a wolf and why. If I get wolfed, the info I had is right here in the thread for you guys to use, and if I don't get wolfed, then

EnR, dooey, Manti (who was wolved so that isn't right), and pnt (lynched.)

So both the seer claims and someone who was wolfed are wolves?

I'll start with dooey, who has been acting rather suspicious this game. He decides to claim seer night 1. Now, if he truly were the seer, he would not come out at night, whether or not there are counterclaims. He'd get wolfed if there were no other claims, and he'd get lynched if there were, due to the fact that anybody that counterclaims dies along with the original claimer. And if he's a wolf, the real seer will do what he does best and seer him to be a wolf. (If he's MW he'll be seered green which contradicts his seer claim.)

This is hard to follow but I think what you are trying to say is that I shouldn't come out night 1 because I'll get wolved. What about the guard. There is one on this game ya know.

And if you are the seer and someone else claims seer there is no point in seering them, you already know they are a wolf.

(which is none because nobody has seriously accused him of anything with proof.)

They still haven't.

Also, dooey's decision to seer Hoochan, who has not been active at all this game, (he posted saying he would be very busy for some time to come.) is highly suspicious. Why would you waste a seering on somebody who is simply going to be phantoming anyway? If he comes back when we have killed a few wolves, then just lynch him. He'll have nothing to hide behind.

I seered Hooch on a recomendation

Next is EnR. I had an AIM convo with him night 1. Two things of note here:

TwilightxShade (3:24:48 PM): Hey
RyanFFR (3:25:16 PM): yoo
TwilightxShade (3:25:22 PM): You're in the TWG, right?
TwilightxShade (3:25:26 PM): The one that is going on now
RyanFFR (3:25:40 PM): no
TwilightxShade (3:25:56 PM): Yeah you are...
RyanFFR (3:25:59 PM): rofl
TwilightxShade (3:26:00 PM): 16. EnR (RyanFFR)
RyanFFR (3:26:02 PM): damn it
RyanFFR (3:26:07 PM): I was gunna ask you your role

He tries to trick me into thinking that he is not in the current TWG so he can ask my role. Why? He never claimed human at the start of the game, but I did. So he obviously wants to see if the claim was true. He wouldn't need to know if I was red because all wolves know who the other wolves are from the start of the game. So he wanted to know if I was blue or green. Either way, he knows that he can use me when the wolves have nobody good to kill.

The second point is halfway through the rather short conversation to the end:

TwilightxShade (5:32:20 PM): You know what I just realized
RyanFFR (5:32:25 PM): wut
TwilightxShade (5:32:27 PM): Anybody who is mentioned during an attack
TwilightxShade (5:32:30 PM): can't be a wolf
TwilightxShade (5:32:35 PM): Think about it
TwilightxShade (5:32:40 PM): the wolves are the cloaked figures
TwilightxShade (5:32:41 PM): right?
RyanFFR (5:32:44 PM): yea
RyanFFR (5:32:49 PM): yea but think
TwilightxShade (5:32:53 PM): Anybody who is there isn't a cloaked figure
RyanFFR (5:33:03 PM): the cloaked figures are normal dressed at the time
TwilightxShade (5:33:09 PM): not at night
TwilightxShade (5:33:24 PM): At night, they are cloaked figures
RyanFFR (5:33:26 PM): they got to the kill scene 3 hours after
RyanFFR (5:33:31 PM): in the morning
RyanFFR (5:33:47 PM): they were normal people by then
TwilightxShade (5:33:47 PM): they did? What about the first post?
TwilightxShade (5:33:58 PM): The cloaked figures were in the first post
TwilightxShade (5:34:04 PM): as cloaked figures
TwilightxShade (5:34:46 PM): See?
TwilightxShade (5:34:47 PM): Just as Makilaz finished this ominous pronouncement, the lights in the chapel suddenly cut out. Amidst the shocked screams and cries, four voices intoned loudly

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

The doors of the chapel burst open and everyone fled for their lives, rushing to their homes to lock their doors, and bar their windows. Everyone that is, except for four, dark figures with a dark purpose, and one. Panicked, near to fainting, their first victim, taken just after sunset right out from under the watchful eyes of Man and God.
TwilightxShade (5:35:09 PM): So anybody mentioned in the first post cannot be a wolf
RyanFFR (5:35:36 PM): he picks randomly
RyanFFR (5:35:44 PM): and the roles in the story randomly
TwilightxShade (5:35:58 PM): But how can a person who was clearly mentioned as something in post 1
TwilightxShade (5:36:03 PM): be a cloaked figure in the same post
RyanFFR (5:36:31 PM): k so you're saying mak isn't wolf
TwilightxShade (5:36:55 PM): I believe lito was mentioned in post 1
TwilightxShade (5:36:56 PM): as a doctor
TwilightxShade (5:37:29 PM): pnt is a detective

In the first post of this thread, I missed the part where Devonin says that the roles in the story do not correlate to the roles in the game in anyway. So EnR doesn't say anything about my misperception of the story after I am done asserting my point, and decides to let me think this way to make the false claim and make a complete fool out of myself.

He didn't

[GamerShadow]

Re: TWG LXII: Cthulhu Rising

I know Manti is not a wolf, because he was wolfed. I simply included my four suspicions from the start of this game.

As for the guard comment, how does the guard know if he should come out to you? If there are no counterclaims, the guardian still has to weigh in the fact that revealing himself to you could get him killed, because you could be a wolf.

Also, the guard could be an inactive player. If this is the case, then you have no guardian to hide behind, and you would not reveal yourself so openly if there were no guard to protect you.
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He didn't

That only supports my point that EnR is trying to exploit me. (If by "he", you mean EnR. If you meant devonin, read quote below.)

Game Note: The "job" of each person in the stories was assigned randomly, using a seperate random generation from the one generating roles, and has absolutely no bearing on roles whatsoever and no connection to roles either.

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And if you are the seer and someone else claims seer there is no point in seering them, you already know they are a wolf.

But how do we know that you are the real seer? The fact that there were no counterclaims makes you even more suspicious.
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I seered Hooch on a recommendation

You sure made that sentence vague. Who recommended the seering? Proof of said recommendation? When was this recommendation?

[dooey100]

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I know Manti is not a wolf, because he was wolfed. I simply included my four suspicions from the start of this game.

As for the guard comment, how does the guard know if he should come out to you? If there are no counterclaims, the guardian still has to weigh in the fact that revealing himself to you could get him killed, because you could be a wolf.

Also, the guard could be an inactive player. If this is the case, then you have no guardian to hide behind, and you would not reveal yourself so openly if there were no guard to protect you.
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In general, if there is 1 seer claim on night 1, the guard guards them but doesn't come out to them. (They didn't) Then if no one counter claims, its safe to come out to them. (Pnts counterclaim doesn't count)

That only supports my point that EnR is trying to exploit me. (If by "he", you mean EnR. If you meant devonin, read quote below.)


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You said that EnR let you think that the story had something to do with the roles, but this is false, he said they were random.

But how do we know that you are the real seer? The fact that there were no counterclaims makes you even more suspicious.
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Whether or not I'm the real seer has nothing to do with it. If someone had claimed seer n1, then I wouldn't seer them because I already knew they were a wolf.

You sure made that sentence vague. Who recommended the seering? Proof of said recommendation? When was this recommendation?

Manti's recommendation. He also recommended mamimi. I can dig up the convo(s) if you want, but it seems like a waste of time.

[meno_rocks123]

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since I'm too lazy to find the perfect part of the last three or four posts to quote:

someting in the last three or four posts

fyi guard should NEVER come out, even to the seer, unless s/he is about to get lynched.
brb reading the rest.

[meno_rocks123]

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ninja'd

[GamerShadow]

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In general, if there is 1 seer claim on night 1, the guard guards them but doesn't come out to them. (They didn't) Then if no one counter claims, its safe to come out to them. (Pnts counterclaim doesn't count)

Fair enough, but how do we know if the guardian is still alive, or active for that matter? If he hasn't revealed himself to anybody yet, then nobody knows who the guardian is. If you decided to take a random guess and seer him, and he came back blue, then you wouldn't reveal that to the public, because then the guardian would get wolfed.

You said that EnR let you think that the story had something to do with the roles, but this is false, he said they were random.

Yet he said nothing when I further asserted my point. If he had wanted to correct me, he would have. And no wolf would want to correct an enemy's views if it can help them win the game.

Whether or not I'm the real seer has nothing to do with it. If someone had claimed seer n1, then I wouldn't seer them because I already knew they were a wolf.

But yet the fact that you might not be the real seer has everything to do with this. It means that you may have claimed seer to be guarded by the guard, as per what you mentioned in your last post, and the seer would then be left in the open.

Manti's recommendation. He also recommended mamimi. I can dig up the convo(s) if you want, but it seems like a waste of time.

Again, fair enough.

[flawofhumanity]

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Fair enough, but how do we know if the guardian is still alive, or active for that matter? If he hasn't revealed himself to anybody yet, then nobody knows who the guardian is. If you decided to take a random guess and seer him, and he came back blue, then you wouldn't reveal that to the public, because then the guardian would get wolfed.

The beauty of the guardian not being known is exactly what you said. No one knows whether he is alive or not. That includes wolves. When the guardian is long dead, the wolves will still be cautious, and consider him alive.

[dooey100]

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Fair enough, but how do we know if the guardian is still alive, or active for that matter? If he hasn't revealed himself to anybody yet, then nobody knows who the guardian is. If you decided to take a random guess and seer him, and he came back blue, then you wouldn't reveal that to the public, because then the guardian would get wolfed.

Uh, they did reveal themselves to me. I don't see how this makes me a wolf. It might make them an idiot, but it doesn't make me a wolf.

Yet he said nothing when I further asserted my point. If he had wanted to correct me, he would have. And no wolf would want to correct an enemy's views if it can help them win the game.

Fair enough

But yet the fact that you might not be the real seer has everything to do with this. It means that you may have claimed seer to be guarded by the guard, as per what you mentioned in your last post, and the seer would then be left in the open.

Then why did no real seer come out? Again, Pnt doesn't count.