TWG XLVI: For the King!

[X3R0H0UR]

Re: TWG XLVI: For the King!

This makes perfect sense, as I said the first time tali was shot. It is imperative that if you gave tali a lucky charm, and his case to you was "hey, look I'm the center of the alliance, and I am so because I'm the only person who can prove they are human" then you need to find a way to make it known. Really just saying you did it isn't too bad, because you no longer have the charm anyway.

[FictionJunction]

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That would make no sense, because both charms would be rendered useless upon one attack.

No, (this may be rather hypocritical, but) learn your timelines.

After giving it some more thought, I believe it is entirely possible that the following occurred:

Night one: talisman gets wolfed and survives.

It is possible for him to have had a charm at the beginning of the game (and I wold expect DBP to place one in their hands seeing how he gave them an advantage for the extra Hunter). The wolves attacked their own talisman and he survives due to the charm. This makes him look really human-like.

Day One: Flaw gets shot in the face

Another party member had a revolver and used it to shoot flaw as soon as he came out (during the day). Talisman who now appears to be very human-like takes that golden opportunity and takes the role of leader of the pack.
(this makes me question how the guns actually work: During night: they shoot when passed) During day: they shoot on target.)

Night two: Stoic and Talisman are shot in the face

Guns are passed.
Stoic survives because he is a thief and had a charm
Talisman survives because he was given another charm by people who deem him the leader.

[DarkManticoreX2]

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Then I'm absolutely lost. I may be pulling a stretch here, but if he started with a charm and then acquired another through his leader position it's possible.

That would make no sense, because both charms would be rendered useless upon one attack.

You feigning ignorance to the wolvings is not helping your situation.

[FictionJunction]

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Then I'm absolutely lost. I may be pulling a stretch here, but if he started with a charm and then acquired another through his leader position it's possible.

[DarkManticoreX2]

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p.s how is talisman a confirmed human. I was unaware of that for the longest time. Getting shot doesn't mean anything when you have a charm, that could just occur to make anyone seem human. And, if you consider your own theory of the gun shooting whenever it is passed it wouldn't make much sense to say that the shot proves his being a human. Other than that, I can't think of anything that has occurred in this thread that proves talisman as a human.

HE WAS WOLVED AND SUCCESSFULLY GUARDED NIGHT ONE YOU NINNY

ALSO: what did psycho lie about?

[FictionJunction]

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p.s how is talisman a confirmed human. I was unaware of that for the longest time. Getting shot doesn't mean anything when you have a charm, that could just occur to make anyone seem human. And, if you consider your own theory of the gun shooting whenever it is passed it wouldn't make much sense to say that the shot proves his being a human. Other than that, I can't think of anything that has occurred in this thread that proves talisman as a human.

[X3R0H0UR]

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Manti, PM, and aim if you can.

LOL at flaw exposing my homosexuality in his sig.

[FictionJunction]

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All throughout this game I was always aware of three people being tagged by Flaw as 'not having items' and I was one of those three. If you claim you that either me or observer were lying, you already killed your liar and wolf. It's ****ing retarded to stand up and lie to someone who has taken the role of 'leader' in the game. I don't know why observer did it, and I'm not sure why psycho did it; but I told flaw what I knew. I didn't have any items at the start of the game, and I just now received my first.

[DarkManticoreX2]

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You have several wrong peices of info in there Fiction, But the one that glares at me is when you say Talisman and myself are tagging you as a wolf for not having items.

This is not the case with my vote however. Flaw's post specifically said THREE people had come to him and said they didn't have items. I was able to aquire two of those logs. I was also informed, by Talisman, that Observer had also gone to Flaw and said he didn't have an item. Talisman is a confirmed human. What he says means a lot more than anything you have to say.

That is three people right there that claimed to talk to flaw and told him "I have no item". Then I talked to you because you were claiming to not have an item as well. You also said "I told Flaw I had no item", but were unable to produce a log.

So now there were 4 people claiming to have told Flaw they had "No item" when he said there were only three.

That means someone was lying, and that someone was either you or our dear dead Observer. There is a conflict here, and either you are the lying party, or Observer was.

I'd feel pretty safe trading off one human for one wolf just to be sure we did get a wolf.

[FictionJunction]

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Bull**** I was seered 'not human' by the stone.

I think it's rather easy for any player to just take control of the game whenever the seer dies; gg Talisman for being the one who did. In his new self-appointed position, Talisman can spew false information in hopes to have everyone bandwagon along with him. He has Manticore controlled and all of you are soon to follow.

The only things he is suing to argue I'm a wolf are too vague to even consider; in fact, some are rather senseless.

1) Wanting me and observer dead for being the first people (to his knowledge) to no have had items. While there are others who have said the same, and while observer may have been lying (gun movement, shots, and whatnot) it is entirely possible (as this game allows) for several players to begin without any items. Even if the amount of items was equivalent to the amount of players, I'm absolutely positive that some of you started with two items. Starting without items is not a reason for someone to be tagged as a wolf and I call bull**** on this argument.

Manticore also tried to pin me on this basis, except he tried to add on the fact I didn't log the conversation where I told Flaw that I didn't have any items at the beginning of the game. Not logging isn't reason enough to tag someone as a wolf; it's rather silly if you think about it. I'm not going to be bold enough to pin Manticore as a wolf because I'm pretty sure he isn't; though I will say he is searching for an easy excuse to pin anyone for a wolf.

2) Going, as Manticore dubbed it, 'buddy-buddy,' on both manticore and talisman and not being my 'analytical self.' I don't think it worth mentioning that this is how I regularly play and I haven't changed my strategies in any way (other than not logging at all, but I stopped doing that a few games ago and it felt nice so I just stopped completely [p.s if I had some add-on for AIM that auto-logs then it'd be fine, but since I rarely use AIM for anything other than FFR and TWG it's just not in my priority list or something]). Myabe I shouldn't have approached Talisman in such a friendly manner, but that's how I was conversing with flaw before his death, plus you can always expect to be some sort of communication between me and flaw since we always talk at the beginning of every TWG we play together. It's somewhat customary now. Either way, your impressions =/= my motive. Clearly, as both of them were already biased as to me being a wolf for not having items and not having me telling flaw said information logged I am further tagged as a wolf for some friendly impression they thought they perceived. You can easily tell the difference between my human game and my blue role game seeing how I'm a tad more cautious in my conversations whenever I'm a blue role. This, however, is my regular green game. Apparently speaking normally and not being apathetic to the game merits being tagged as a wolf.

Anyway, like I said before, I'm not bold enough to tag Manticore as a wolf. But I will vote for talisman for not having enough information to tag anyone as a supposed wolf and just going for 'the next best thing.' Anyone can be a leader; gg on taking that opportunity so quickly.

[DarkManticoreX2]

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as far as voting goes, I'd like everyone to vote for fiction. he was "scry'd" and the result was "not human".

Heheeee. In b4 scy'ed

fiction

If you think this is bandwagon, you really need to check my post a page or 2 back.

[talisman]

Re: TWG XLVI: For the King!

as far as voting goes, I'd like everyone to vote for fiction. he was "scry'd" and the result was "not human".

[thunderstrike687]

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^^^ I meant with wolves obtaining items.

And talisman, if you dont want to believe me, fine, but thats the item. Ask stoic if you dont believe me. He has it now.

[thunderstrike687]

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Now, thunder was telling me that as long as he wasn't wolfed, everything would be fine because this item then wouldn't fall into the hands of the wolves, presumably. Although I don't think that's how it even works... only if you're being passed an item do the wolves get it if they decided to wolf you. So I don't really see why all this was necessary. It also has not escaped my mind that the item might be BS in the first place, especially since it seems very few of the items start with instructions on their use. Not to mention that it's essentially a carbon copy of the brutal wolf power.

If this isnt how it works, then I was lied to by pnt.

[thunderstrike687]

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For the record, DBP is stupid and I just found out my item was stolen. Im kind of annoyed, due to pnt bargaining with my item, which in my opinion, was more useful if I still had it.