TWG XLVI: For the King!

[talisman]

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safety on manticore, not voting fiction to avoid the brutal, if there is one.

[Kilgamayan]

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talisman, can you get on AIM for a moment?

[roundbox]

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I still think some random item sh*t got talisman on the first day.
Fiction

[Yesssss]

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If talisman was in fact not guarded night one (which he had no knowledge of being guarded in the first place, as far as I know) then why hasn't the guard fessed up about it? Would he actually let the humans go this far into confusion. I think not.

Why would the wolves waste 2 items on trying to make talisman look human?

Also Fiction mirror voted. Wolves are most likely to mirror vote than anyone else.

[FictionJunction]

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astounding analysis. No, really.

[pntballa18]

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are you ****ing stupid

I love sertman, rofl.

This was after my vote against talisman. To me, it shows that fiction agreed with sertman in how my vote was stupid, because he knew he was a confirmed human. Now he's changed his mind.

fiction

[talisman]

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I think the reason I survived the shooting was because I was being guarded... guardings protect against all night actions, although I'm unsure about how pm timing works with that. But the guardian's pm was certainly in well before I was apparently shot.

also, there were four people who started the game, or claimed to, without any items, not three as flaw had identified. observer may have been lying, but yes, both he and fiction were in that grouping.

the reason I wanted fiction or observer gone had less to do with the fact that both said they had no items and more to do with my read on them behaviorally. fiction was then scry'd last night and the result is what the result is.

now, it may be possible that a wolf framed fiction with an item somehow. however, it's not like we can ignore the "not human". I'm not going to vote for him unless I absolutely have to in order to avoid a possible brutal, but I obviously recommend that everyone else do so.

[DarkManticoreX2]

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Exactly why would we trust Talisman? He's using the fact that he got wolfed as his confirmation. My jTWG example was merely to say why I was thinking about it (after previously saying I trusted Talisman) and to explain how he could be lying.

Look, I don't want to sound like anyone's bitch here, But Talisman was successfully guarded. You guys are coming up with scenarios where he could have used a Lucky Charm for a wolving and etc etc....

It just isn't the case. Talisman was Successfully guarded by the guardian night 1. It is HIGHLY unlikely he convinced the guard to guard him because he would have

1. needed to find the guard. (no gaurd tells anyone but the seer their role)
2. needed to convince the guard he was trustworthy.

Neither of which he could have easily done. So Talisman was unaware he was guarded night one. The wolves tried to kill him to get him out of the way. It is EXTREMELY UNLIKEY the wolves would chance killing one of their own on a blind guess as to who the guardian was guarding.

[x3Mamimi]

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You're an idiot.

Exactly why would we trust Talisman? He's using the fact that he got wolfed as his confirmation. My jTWG example was merely to say why I was thinking about it (after previously saying I trusted Talisman) and to explain how he could be lying.

Shove it.

[FictionJunction]

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this isn't like the jTWG at all. Talisman isn't faking a seer. He's replacing flaw as leader and gatherer of information.

[x3Mamimi]

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Well.
If we're saying that Talisman is confirmed because he was wolfed, well, I don't know. I was pretty sure of it before but like, in the jTWG, DBP was a wolf and was trying to get the guardian to guard him so he could 'wolf' himself, thus confirming himself. Which, seems pretty obvious and simple... but I'm just thinking that Talisman could have started off with a lucky charm and then wolfed himself trying to get confirmed.

I guess I'm just paranoid because it was tried in the jTWG and I'd never even thought of that stradegy, ever.

That aside though, I can recognize a wolf's last effort to save themself... atleast that's how it seems with fiction, though, like I said before, Talisman could be lying about all of this. But I played last game with Talisman as a wolf and he.. didn't really try anything like this. Ugh.

And then there's manti, Talisman's right hand man. And if Talisman is a wolf, and manti's a wolf, they wouldn't be so opening close, right? or is that what they want you to think? circles.

I'll keep my vote for now, but I've not talked to Manti.. as for talisman...barely. So, it might change.



P.s. I didn't want to make a post about this, entirely, and I'm not sure exactly what this might effect besides my knowledge of what's going on.. but I'll be gone from thursday-sunday. Though, so will DBP though I'm not sure he's thought about how it might effect the game on his part. Just a head's up.

[DarkManticoreX2]

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Plus, DBP never specified if it was either a day or a night shooting. I've always played under the assumption that that was a day shooting because that's what I interpreted.

DBP should specify, Because i've been under the assumption he got shot when he passed the revolver.

[FictionJunction]

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he told flaw he didn't have an item when he did, But that's public information.

P.S Day one started May 3rd, 2007, 10:52 PM. DBP's post about Flaw dying was May 5th, 2007, 05:29 PM.
enough time for flaw's death to have fit in during the day. Plus, DBP never specified if it was either a day or a night shooting. I've always played under the assumption that that was a day shooting because that's what I interpreted.

[DarkManticoreX2]

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Also, you said Psycho lied about something. I didn't catch what he lied about. Care to clear that up for me?

[DarkManticoreX2]

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Day One: Flaw gets shot in the face

Another party member had a revolver and used it to shoot flaw as soon as he came out (during the day). Talisman who now appears to be very human-like takes that golden opportunity and takes the role of leader of the pack.
(this makes me question how the guns actually work: During night: they shoot when passed) During day: they shoot on target.)

Night two: Stoic and Talisman are shot in the face

Guns are passed.
Stoic survives because he is a thief and had a charm
Talisman survives because he was given another charm by people who deem him the leader.

Your missing the point where DBP said Talisman was successfully guarded.
He did not say "Talisman was saved by a force unknown".

Also, I'll use some of the knowledge i've gathered here. Flaw had a revolver night one, and he passed it to someone (I don't know who, but I know he passed it.) He was shot by the backfire of the gun

Consecutive Posts after stoic is shot

rofl. ok DO NOT pass a revolver, if you have another one.

although it is odd that flaw wasn't shot earlier if that's how it works.

I was about 23 hours late posting flaw's death. Yep go me.

What you're suggesting is that Flaw passed his revolver to Someone, and that someone shot flaw. This is not the case, because Flaw Should have died during the night, as soon as he passed his revolver. Stoic was shot by backfire, flaw was shot by backfire, Talisman was shot by someone with the other revolver, as well as an attempted wolving on his life, which is a very large testament to his humanity.

Fiction, you're pulling things out of the air trying to take Talisman down with you, and it isn't going to happen.