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Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
Just thought I'd point out that Blind isn't town.
The problem is, his overall performance is far, far from organic. No one seems to have really considered what I said yesterday, so I'll reiterate my case against Blind.
Yesterday, I made a series of posts when I got back, one of which included a suggestion by me that we didn't know how many wolves there are.
Emphasis on we can't even be sure of how many wolves there are.
As several people (DBP at length, Freezin and Sun Fan a bit) alluded to—see #1722—this was incorrect. All T tables include three wolves. My confusion came from the fact the the mafiascum wiki table differed from the official game table. I was reading the former when I made that claim, which led to what DBP characterized as a dumbtell.
Blind claims that he hadn't read the long discussion about that when he commented on the post. But that's very hard to believe. You see, he reacted with extremely exaggerated concern
likely trying to scope out an aggressive position on a topic (that he didn't actually understand) in order to simulate town cred.
The problem is, he immediately undercut his own reading. Not only did he misunderstand what had actually happened, but his reaction upon being caught showed that the excessive “What” post was fake.
Note the following:
My initial response:
His response to that:
This is hilariously problematic. Blind makes the same mistake I did, obviously reading from the mafiascum tables. This would be funny on its own, calling out someone for a dumbtell, then making the same dumbtell. But it's more than that, because it reveals his reaction to my post was artificially constructed. There's no need to go “What what what...” or indeed to even react at all if this was his actually understanding of the situation. If he believed what he claimed here, then my initial statement (we don't know how many wolves there are) would have been mechanically valid, and there would have been no reason to jump on it because it was correct.
Instead, by jumping all over it, he commits to the idea that there's something wrong with it. But he very clearly, as demonstrated by the post above, doesn't understand what. Rather, he saw that other people, primarily DBP, had discussed it at length, and saw an opportunity to scope out unclaimed case ground rather than actually making a case. Not only does this speak to a lack of actual scumhunting—looking for a unique position rather than a position supported by evidence—it clashes directly with his claim that he hadn't read further on, and was simply reacting to my post. If that was the case, why the initial overreaction. After all, “I get the chances.”
This interpretation of Blind is borne out by his later responses.
First, I pointed out the obvious problem with his post.
To those actually following the discussion—who had commented on it and understood what the dumbtell was—this remark made sense.
His initial reaction is to explain away his misreading as an immediate hot take to my initial post, although as I've demonstrated that's problematic because by his understanding there was nothing to react to.
Where Blind really undermines himself is in his reaction to Freezin's casual response.
Blind doesn't understand what's embarrassing because he still doesn't realize that he committed the same dumbtell. He read into my statement what he wanted to read, missing the actual point—a point that was necessary to understand in order for his original post (What what what...) to make any sense at all.
Every single post he made in this sequence drives home the fact that he didn't understand what was wrong with what I said initially, which not only shows that his criticism of it was falsely constructed, but that his extreme reaction was as well. It would be one thing to make a passing remark regarding the "how many mafia" thing, another entirely to do what he did.
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Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
Oh so that's what you've been doing========
To let the world be.
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Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
did the quotes and the argument not line up very well for anyone else?,,
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Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
Votes from post 1861 to post 2164
Night in 26:19:03
---- Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
- 1 -- Xiz -- the sun fan (60)
- 1 -- inDheart -- FreezinIce (37)
- 1 -- blindreper1179 -- Precarious (1)
- 1 -- unvote -- Celirra (95)
- 5 -- not voting -- blindreper1179 (17), Funnygurl555 (16), inDheart (30), Tps222 (5), Xiz (42)
Originally posted by CharuComment
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Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
Sure, mass claiming sounds fun. Vt here for the 142577425785th time.
I didn't dumb tell on the wolf number pre, i was saying at 6/7, which i missed 5, would be 2 wolves IF we were using wiki, but we're not, and i doubt we rolled 6/7. 5 may be possible, but ehhhh.
You're wasting your time trying to construe my words honestly.Originally posted by thesunfanOriginally posted by choofOriginally posted by choofOriginally posted by CelirraComment
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Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
why do blind and prec only exist when the other exists
zzzzz,,
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Originally posted by thesunfanOriginally posted by choofOriginally posted by choofOriginally posted by CelirraComment
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Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
So TTTRRK. So... we're missing one letter right?Originally posted by thesunfanOriginally posted by choofOriginally posted by choofOriginally posted by CelirraComment
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Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
Or does vanilla not mean a T for certain?Originally posted by thesunfanOriginally posted by choofOriginally posted by choofOriginally posted by CelirraComment
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TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
FFR is a pretty good place somehow.Comment
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Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
I hardclaim vt btwTWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
FFR is a pretty good place somehow.Comment
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Originally posted by thesunfanOriginally posted by choofOriginally posted by choofOriginally posted by CelirraComment
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