Goodbye Framers!

[Coolboyrulez0]

Re: Goodbye Framers!

Let's stop arguing. Framers will be removed. Like it or not.
Done deal but I do like the idea of keeping a AVmiss version around just for fun.
Not for scoring. I hope this appeals to most/all players.

[thunderstrike687]

Re: Goodbye Framers!

Let's stop arguing. Framers will be removed. Like it or not.
Done deal.

Agreed.

[dore]

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One of the most worthy historical things is the score database that has been continued for 4.3 years (you guys should realize how long it is for a internet game).

Other released features like Color Notes/Autofail/Speed Mods didn't break of those score compatibility, but av-miss fix DOES. And I think it makes 2nd style a completely different game (of course in a good meaning).

Plus I think av-miss feature has also historical worthiness if things like blue note files have, and shouldn't be completely removed from this entire site.

exactly

[RoastedNoob]

Re: Goodbye Framers!

One of the most worthy historical things is the score database that has been continued for 4.3 years (you guys should realize how long it is for a internet game).

Other released features like Color Notes/Autofail/Speed Mods didn't break of those score compatibility, but av-miss fix DOES. And I think it makes 2nd style a completely different game (of course in a good meaning).

Plus I think av-miss feature has also historical worthiness if things like blue note files have, and shouldn't be completely removed from this entire site.

Agreed.

[Ryusei_]

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Plus I think av-miss feature has also historical worthiness if things like blue note files have, and shouldn't be completely removed from this entire site.

I agree with this, under the condition that the scores from the avemiss version aren't saved. They simply don't deserve that kind of attention.

[DarkManticoreX2]

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New topic:

btw, all scores gotten by subscribers since the beta was released will be deleted.

Crap. So yeah. As I think Hammy said.

"Hold off on those Good scores"

[foilman8805]

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A small victory for those who voted No.

[QuadDamage]

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Avmisses are glitches that should have been removed long ago. For a game that's so combo-heavy, it makes no sense to have something that penalizes you for accuracy

[meno_rocks123]

Re: Goodbye Framers!

one acronym.
FOTS

[Xception704]

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Avmisses are glitches that should have been removed long ago. For a game that's so combo-heavy, it makes no sense to have something that penalizes you for accuracy

That's so right it's not even funny.

If FFR had a scoring system like SM that was mostly independent of Combo, avmisses would not be such a big deal, but seeing that it IS, it would be an unwise decision to keep them in the game when you have a chance of fixing them imo.

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

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I like the idea of harder files and no more Avrage misses (Though i don't think i've ever had the mispleasure of trying to hit one.) But i personaly think that because it makes the game easier that they shouldn't do it.

[Xiaounlimited]

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one acronym.
FOTS

Kill yourself, no.

I have some decent scores on Caprice, FOTBB and Piano Etude - I whored for them. I got my sense of accomplishment. I'll be kind of sad that they'll be gone. But really, I don't care, it won't matter, I'll just get a better score. I've spent just as much time as anybody else with avmisses, and to be frank, I'm glad to see them go despite my time spent whoring songs for good scores.

Preserving them as history is fine with me, so people who join FFR later on will know of avmisses and not to take the lack of them for granted. However, putting off the fix 'til 3rd style (which has been in production for god knows how long now), or having a seperate DB to save the avmiss scores is completely pointless. Sentimental values are not of interest to anybody but whom they belong to.

The ONLY arguments going for avmisses are "it's a historical era in FFR's timeline" and "it's what makes FFR, FFR".

Removing them yields tenfold more benefits. Seriously, I don't get the point of keeping them. Files with jacks will be introduced, but those with excessive jacks will be denied.

I'm 100% with Yukari, Thunderstrike, Ryusei and the rest of the pro-framer removal.

Anyways, I've said my two cents. I'm done here, the rest of the thread is going to go nowhere. I'm just going to sit back and wait 'til framers are gone, then masturbate when I can finally AAA FMO songs without avmisses.

[edit]
By preserve, I mean have an alternate client with avmisses

[hi19hi19]

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Avmisses suck

but so does a million noobs who suddenly get better at the game and think that they're god now because it's easy to FC Crytalis all of a sudden

so idunno

[Xiaounlimited]

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But then you get to put crap like gtell into the game to get them to stfu

[-Yukari-]

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Sentimental values are not of interest to anybody but whom they belong to.

I actually like this quote even out of the context of this thread, well-said