TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud

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  • MilfeulleSakuraba
    Ryoko Shintani is #1!
    • Feb 2006
    • 403

    #1

    TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud

    Please send all PMs to MilfeulleSakuraba. Kilgamayan's Inbox is full and I'm too lazy to delete enough of it to make room for the 15+ PMs I'm going to get every night.

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    The big day was finally here!

    16 humans from across the world gathered together in a small room in the back of the presentation hall, having nothing else in common except for their love of the game. This is the day they had been waiting for their whole lives, the day their destinies and fates would be determined by front-office chatter and the conviction-filled voice of one David Stern, Commissioner of the NBA.

    Despite all of this, however, there was a silent, terrible fear in the hearts of everyone gathered in that room. They all knew there was one thing that could ruin their moment - their destiny - forever.

    Patrick O'Bryant had the courage to voice this fear, someone no one else in the room could do.

    "So, heh, who do you guys think will end up going to New York?"

    Oh, yes, New York. The New York Knicks. The thought sent a collective chill up 16 spines. Nothing could ruin their days, their careers, their very lives as much as finding out they were being sent to play with overpaid hacks like Stephon Marbury and Steve Francis - not to mention invariably getting booed by the hordes of fans in attendance, who showed up for no other reason than to loudly disapprove of whatever decisions Isiah Thomas made.

    The ruined moment, the salary cap hell, the inevitable decade of doom and gloom...no, it was too much to bear even considering thinking about.

    But they all knew. They all knew New York was extremely active in trade talks. They all knew that any of them could go at any time.

    In fact, three of them knew so well that they had decided beforehand that it would not happen to them before it happened to all of the thirteen other people in that room.

    David Stern's voice signaled the start of Round 1. The Toronto Raptors were on the clock, and sixteen pairs of eyes watched that clock tick down, tick away the seconds before the moment of truth revealed a glorious destiny - or a horrible, hell-on-earth fate.

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    It is now Night 1.

    Tasselfoot (Randy Foye)
    talisman (Patrick O'Bryant)
    FishFishRevolution (J.J. Redick)
    GuidoHunter (Saer Sene)
    FoJaR (Shelden Williams)
    flypie743 (Rudy Gay)
    Shashakiro (Cedric Simmons)
    Tps222 (Tyrus Thomas)
    CypherToorima (LaMarcus Aldridge)
    iggymatrixcounter (Rodney Carney)
    Kefit (Brandon Roy)
    blahblah18 (Hilton Armstrong)
    Omeganitros (Andrea Bargnani)
    aperson (Adam Morrison)
    Afrobean (Ronnie Brewer)
    Wilkin (Thabo Sefolosha)

    Some clarifications:

    - The wolfsbane role cannot transfer the protection to anyone else, either temporarily or permanently. Also, even if they are attacked, the wolfsbane's protection will not go away.
    - If there is an unsuccessful attack, you will not be told why, only who the target was. It is up to that target to tell the rest of you what's going on, if they so choose.
    - Night posting is allowed, so go nuts. This means the vigilante can kill anyone at any time (though they still only get one shot) instead of only during the day.
    - Wolfsbane does not protect from a vigilante kill.
    - PMs will be sent out shortly (no personalizaiton this time, sorry). I will post again when they are all sent out, signalling the start of the 24-hour waiting period for lottery picks.
    - If I have forgotten anything, please let me know.
  • MilfeulleSakuraba
    Ryoko Shintani is #1!
    • Feb 2006
    • 403

    #2
    Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud

    Oh wow, hail vBulletin for allowing you to PM RUSH KEKEKEKE instead of making you wait 30 seconds between each one.

    My watch says 12:40, so at that time 24 hours later I will no longer accept lottery picks.

    Wolves, kill someone.
    Everyone, send me your lottery picks.

    Let the eternal struggle begin!

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    • CypherToorima
      Boss of all bosses
      • Jul 2003
      • 2452

      #3
      Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud

      Oh sup night
      I'm a figantic gaggot

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      • MilfeulleSakuraba
        Ryoko Shintani is #1!
        • Feb 2006
        • 403

        #4
        Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud

        One last thing I forgot to mention; you can pick yourself for the lottery if you so desire.

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        • flypie743
          FFR Player
          • Jun 2004
          • 3210

          #5
          Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud

          FYI: My new screenname is "i am flypie".

          IF YOU ARE THE BOMB YOU WILL CLICK THIS and if you dont, you suck.

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          • Shashakiro
            TWO THOUZAND COMBO
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Aug 2005
            • 9082

            #6
            Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud

            No seer, no guardian...sounds hard.
            4th Official FFR Tournament - Master division champion!

            Originally posted by Boogiebear
            use ur bain. Itz there for a reason.

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            • Tasselfoot
              Retired BOSS
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jul 2003
              • 25185

              #7
              Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud

              OK... my thoughts...

              wolfsbane should come out ASAP. no sense not to, as proven by the game with myself and mead. yes, it tells the wolves 1 person not to attack... but it also allows for the vigi to have someone to work with. 2 people working together > 1. Also eliminates 1 suspect from consideration... picking out of 13 is better than 14 (15 people alive day 1, minus yourself). Also eliminates one person from consideration on who to pick to guard. Will be extremely powerful in an end game situation.

              vigi... DO NOT USE YOUR POWERS. Period. If you use your powers and kill a human, we lose an entire day. ONLY if we have a night without a kill will it be appropriate to kill someone... 1 non-kill will not extend things an extra day, so by getting 1 non-kill by the wolves and 1 extra kill by vigi... at worst things are evened out. At best, we get a free wolf. Regardless, DO NOT USE IT UNTIL LATE IN THE GAME, if at all. Better to never use your power than to use it incorrectly.

              And since you guys apparently can't do jack **** without me, I'd like to nominate myself for a guard pick... not to mention I'd like to live past night 1 for a change.


              Any questions?
              RIP

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              • Afrobean
                Admiral in the Red Army
                • Dec 2003
                • 13262

                #8
                Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud

                Originally posted by CypherToorima
                Oh sup night
                This should be the equivalent of everyone's night post haha.

                Night posting later on is useful, but why bother before anything even happens?

                To get ideas out, I suppose, but really, I have no special ideas regarding anything new in this game.

                Quick note: wasn't even aware there was a vigilante. Shouldn't the vigi come out under the pretenses that if any fakes vigi, the real vigi can just use the vigi powers to kill him?

                So yeah, I'm pretty sure that's how it works. It's been a while though. Anyone, feel free to point out how I'm wrong because I really feel like I'm missing something and I don't see why the vigi role is used when it's so broken.

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                • Afrobean
                  Admiral in the Red Army
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 13262

                  #9
                  Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud

                  wtf tass posted before me

                  doesn't it make more sense for the vigi to come out than the wolfsbane if only because there would be no way of knowing for sure if wolfsbane is faking?

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                  • Tasselfoot
                    Retired BOSS
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 25185

                    #10
                    Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud

                    no Afro! vigi only works that way with a set guardian to hide and protect them. that isn't the case this game.

                    this game, let the wolfsbane come out and act as a leader. let the vigi stay in the shadows.
                    RIP

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                    • Afrobean
                      Admiral in the Red Army
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 13262

                      #11
                      Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud

                      ok nvm about what I said about vigi coming out, even though vigi could come out and bane could come to them but yeah whatever

                      Tass is right. If two people come to wolf's bane as vigi, then we have a wolf, so whatever it all works out but in the way tass said, the blues are both aware of who each other are. But if vigi comes out and bane goes to vigi and a wolf fakes bane to vigi, then we'd have to pick out a wolf from two people with nothing to go on but their posting (and lord knows we can't do that worth a ****).

                      I still stand by the vigi is broken arguement though, and apparently the bane is just as broken.

                      and tass posted while I was typing this, so in response to him: yeah I forgot that wolves get guardian picks too, so even with every human protecting the vigi, it wouldn't be 100%.

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                      • Tasselfoot
                        Retired BOSS
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 25185

                        #12
                        Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud

                        my point was more that the wolfsbane is SAFE to come out publically. no harm against them. AND with a "guardian" in addition... there is literally ZERO risk in the wolfsbane coming out. NONE.

                        if the vigi comes out, all the humans have to waste their guard picks on the vigi to keep them alive. with the bane, we don't. with the bane, we can still have our secret guard picks to work to fool the wolves and get saves.

                        the bane is the better choice, hands down, to come out publically. and if 2 vigi's go to the bane, the bane should just post that in the thread, and we can deal with it from there. logic always prevails in those situations.
                        RIP

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                        • Afrobean
                          Admiral in the Red Army
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 13262

                          #13
                          Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud

                          Yeah I already said you were right about that. No need to argue it further.

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                          • CypherToorima
                            Boss of all bosses
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 2452

                            #14
                            Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud

                            Well...I am the wolfsbane, so if you planned on voting me for guarding, no need to worry about that.
                            I'm a figantic gaggot

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                            • Tasselfoot
                              Retired BOSS
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 25185

                              #15
                              Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud

                              also... vigi... DO NOT go to Cypher just yet. Give it about 18 hours or so, just to make sure nobody else comes out claiming to be the wolfsbane.

                              As I said just now to Shash, I don't believe for a second that Cypher is faking (based on a convo that Cypher and I just had), but better safe than sorry, and waiting 18 hours won't change anything. So play it safe.
                              RIP

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