Don't pump gas on May 15th ....

[meno_rocks123]

Re: Don't pump gas on May 15th ....

I can easily participate. No vehicle. But uh.. is this solely an american thing? I mean, gas prices are terrible in Canada as well - probably worse than america.

Not worse. Gas is almost $1.20 here and that's ~$3.75? a gallon. America has always had better gas prices. In fact, it is cheaper to drive 40km to the US and fill up there, literally.

[stretchypanda]

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See, I'm probably not going to buy gas May 15th, because I'll be at home, and I won't need gas because I'll have nowhere to go.

I'm almost certain that except for the publicity that is being generated, it's going to be a normal business day for gas stations.

[theinsomniacnimrod]

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I drive a bicycle. Wouldn't be buying gas that day anyways...

And if people don't buy gas on the 15th, they will still need to either buy gas before or refuel shortly afterward - they aren't changing their consumption of fuel or the oil companies' profit in any way. And as for the publicity - people do not need to be told that oil prices are high - it's an obvious thing. We've been noticing the prices for how many years now, and until we actually find a solution we are not doing anything except complaining...

[JasonKey]

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QFT/E/ETC.

THIS is where you get them. Like I said, one day of not buying gasoline will get all those facebook twits a mention on CNN and not much else. Oil companies might release a statement saying they appreciate the input of their customers and are doing everything they can to save us more money.

If you want to make an impact on an industry as huge and powerful as the oil industry, you can't just rebel for a day. You have to resolve to completely reduce your consumption of their product, which means buying a bike or utilizing public transportation.

What's really amusing is that the kids making all the facebook groups are the same kids who drive from their dorm to class because it's "too far to walk".

Stretchy, but that IS the point. Who is measuring the results past the publicity it generates?

To say its useless to even discuss it is taking more effort on your part than not showing up at the pump ...

Don't you get that this is a "do nothing" move?

[JasonKey]

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You guys know this does absolutely nothing right? The places you buy your gas from will just make more money on May 14th and 16th. GAH Why do I miss these thread? My post would have been so much more worthwhile if it hadn't already been posted. Oh well.

Oil is such a demanded product that no matter how high the prices go, people will still buy it because it is so necessary to everyday life.

Don't confuse this with DOING something )

Look at this from as esoteric message.

Come on folks, don't make me open a thread about this in critical thinking )

[stretchypanda]

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If you want to do something more productive to hurt the oil industry, invest in a bicycle and persuade your friends to do the same.

QFT/E/ETC.

THIS is where you get them. Like I said, one day of not buying gasoline will get all those facebook twits a mention on CNN and not much else. Oil companies might release a statement saying they appreciate the input of their customers and are doing everything they can to save us more money.

If you want to make an impact on an industry as huge and powerful as the oil industry, you can't just rebel for a day. You have to resolve to completely reduce your consumption of their product, which means buying a bike or utilizing public transportation.

What's really amusing is that the kids making all the facebook groups are the same kids who drive from their dorm to class because it's "too far to walk".

[nforcer06164]

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Spite.

That's how.

Oil prices are a monopoly. They can make something up to put the blame of the price hike, then go ahead and do whatever they want with it.

Hooray for elasticity. Nobody will buy gas less. Take economics. Gas prices are the one thing people care about, but can't do anything about. It's not like McDonalds starts charging $4 for a burger, so you go across the street to Burger King. No. It's Exxon charges $4.50. Mobil charges $4.50. Sunoco charges $4.50. BP charges $4.50. Shell charges $4.50.

Squeek, are you aware that price gouging is, under certain circumstances, a felony?

Ridiculous gas prices could turn into anarchy. The government does not like anarchy. A rise in gas prices can incite a panic that nobody in charge wants to deal with.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_gouging

Price gouging is illegal during an emergency. Could price gouging itself, especially in the case of our precious oil, be a national emergency? I think so. And, it's only being incited by our very own corporations. The government could step in at any point and end this, provided the gouging is found to be breaching law.

Instead of that happening (and we know that could very well happen and it could be ugly), why don't we do something small that can potentially help us all?

[Squeek]

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Ah ok .. ya, thats the ticket .. lets do nothing. Come on ... I am not even a massive activist in any way. Past that, I am pretty damn conservative politically. But something like this is simplicity in message delivery.

I think even the critics can handle it .. its just doing nothing.

Its not like I am suggesting something like what the Germans doing, where they are wrapping a glacier to keep it from melting )

If you want to do something more productive to hurt the oil industry, invest in a bicycle and persuade your friends to do the same.

[g4z33b0]

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You guys know this does absolutely nothing right? The places you buy your gas from will just make more money on May 14th and 16th. GAH Why do I miss these thread? My post would have been so much more worthwhile if it hadn't already been posted. Oh well.

Oil is such a demanded product that no matter how high the prices go, people will still buy it because it is so necessary to everyday life.

[JasonKey]

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Seriously, do people expect this to work?

Sad, really. It won't even make a dent. In fact, I can see this making them increase the price even higher.

Oil is a monopoly and it will not be toppled any time soon. There's nothing we can do to stop it unless we all decide to take bicycles everywhere. They crush innovation and prevent alternate fuels from ever existing. They skirt the law and blame the most minor things for price hikes.

Ah ok .. ya, thats the ticket .. lets do nothing. Come on ... I am not even a massive activist in any way. Past that, I am pretty damn conservative politically. But something like this is simplicity in message delivery.

I think even the critics can handle it .. its just doing nothing.

Its not like I am suggesting something like what the Germans doing, where they are wrapping a glacier to keep it from melting )

[Squeek]

Re: Don't pump gas on May 15th ....

Spite.

That's how.

Oil prices are a monopoly. They can make something up to put the blame of the price hike, then go ahead and do whatever they want with it.

Hooray for elasticity. Nobody will buy gas less. Take economics. Gas prices are the one thing people care about, but can't do anything about. It's not like McDonalds starts charging $4 for a burger, so you go across the street to Burger King. No. It's Exxon charges $4.50. Mobil charges $4.50. Sunoco charges $4.50. BP charges $4.50. Shell charges $4.50.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elasticity_%28economics%29

One typical application of the concept of elasticity is to consider what happens to consumer demand for a good (for example, a product) when prices increase. As the price of a good rises, consumers will usually demand a lower quantity of that good, perhaps by consuming less, substituting other goods, and so on. The greater the extent to which demand falls as price rises, the greater the price elasticity of demand. However, there may be some goods that consumers require, cannot consume less of, and cannot find substitutes for even if prices rise (for example, certain prescription drugs). Another example is oil and its derivatives such as gasoline. For such goods, the price elasticity of demand might be considered inelastic.

[nforcer06164]

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Sad, really. It won't even make a dent. In fact, I can see this making them increase the price even higher.

Can you explain the logic behind this, please? Because it's going right over my head.

The only justification for raising the price would be to make up for lost revenues. But, these companies are making massive profits every day. A price hike would only make people buy gas less.

I for one would stop driving my car as often as I do if it gets up around, say, $3.50. I and my family simply cannot afford the greed and gouging. The prices around here are ridiculous, almost .60 more than the rest of the country, and it's not even as bad as the city. This will make a statement, and I think I can live without filling my car for a day.

[Squeek]

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Seriously, do people expect this to work?

Sad, really. It won't even make a dent. In fact, I can see this making them increase the price even higher.

Oil is a monopoly and it will not be toppled any time soon. There's nothing we can do to stop it unless we all decide to take bicycles everywhere. They crush innovation and prevent alternate fuels from ever existing. They skirt the law and blame the most minor things for price hikes.

[JasonKey]

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Uh, I'm sorry?

Oil companies are NOT going to lose money or sleep over just one day of customers not purchasing gas. Half the idiots participating in this stupid demonstration will be certain to fill up on May 14th, and the other half will spend all day on the 15th wishing they hadn't agreed to this stupid protest because now they're stuck at home with no transportation, and rush to the nearest gas station on the 16th.

A gas-out MONTH or even WEEK would be more effective, but we all know Americans are slaves to their own transportation. If so many people didn't NEED gas, the prices wouldn't be so high. So don't tell your mom and dad not to buy gas on just one day, tell them to start carpooling with their coworkers and buy less gas overall.

Ah, so the only point is the oil companies .. ok. We could always covert this to a Buy At McDonalds day .. or camp out at Walmart day ..

Stretchy, you are focusing on the corporate direct impact, which isn't really the only point. Think about it, if for 1 day, consumers change their behavior, it does send a message. It IS a manipulation.

Rarely do consumers actually speak up with anything significant. This is an easy one to do.

Will it actually save consumers $? No .. will it hurt the oil companies in any significant way? .. No. Will it send a message throughout the participating countries .. possibly. Is it stupid and participated by only idiots? Wow .. I suppose this really gets you going emotionally. You must avoid TV a lot.

The beauty of something like this is .. this an is easy statement. Easier than getting folks to pile in and buy on the same day

[stretchypanda]

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Uh, I'm sorry?

Oil companies are NOT going to lose money or sleep over just one day of customers not purchasing gas. Half the idiots participating in this stupid demonstration will be certain to fill up on May 14th, and the other half will spend all day on the 15th wishing they hadn't agreed to this stupid protest because now they're stuck at home with no transportation, and rush to the nearest gas station on the 16th.

A gas-out MONTH or even WEEK would be more effective, but we all know Americans are slaves to their own transportation. If so many people didn't NEED gas, the prices wouldn't be so high. So don't tell your mom and dad not to buy gas on just one day, tell them to start carpooling with their coworkers and buy less gas overall.