TWG XIV - Michigan Meetup - Day 6 - HUMAN VICTORY

[Kilgamayan]

LD told me pre-game there would be a Master Wolf. I got him to add the Psychic to balance the sides accordingly.

[mead1]

No master wolf Talisman, just 3 normal ones.

[lightdarkness]

LD told me pre-game there would be a Master Wolf. I got him to add the Psychic to balance the sides accordingly.

That was when I was running my MOTW game.

This is 3 wolves, seer guardian psychic. No Master.

[Tasselfoot]

Guys.... if you don't start talking, we have 0 shot at winning this game. So seriously, drop the god damn bs of reading and sitting back with nothing to comment. FIND SOMETHING TO COMMENT ON. I've tried to post everything I've thought about so as to include everyone in this game.

I understand that for us college folks, the semester is ending and there is alot of work. So take 15 minutes every 3-4 hours, maybe another 5 minutes in the morning... read the thread, and make a post. Do SOMETHING. I'm willing to bet the wolves are sitting back, enjoying this, and laughing their asses off that they can say nothing and get away with it, because EVERYONE is saying nothing.

Speak people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[User6773]

Per Tass' request of busy people doing stuff anyway.

I don't think kilga or blah leaked this, I think it was just a lucky guess. Hans is a valuable player no matter what team he is on, so he would be a good choice for wolfing. However, Tass usually has a good reason when he says things, so I am definately a bit wary of kilga and blah now, even if I am not ready to believe they were responsible.

It's very very odd to defend the choice of Hans as a "valuable player no matter what team he is on" when there were a good deal of people who knew (or at least suspected) that he was blue.

My vote goes to mead.

[QreepyBORIS]

I personally saw what mead said about "any team" being a normal slipup.

I dismissed it completely, and I'm not even tired enough to be irritable yet.

I think you're trying too hard, Chardish. :P Not to say that I can blame you, exactly, because there is not a lot of things to actually read into.

[mead1]

To clarify my statement, in the past few TWGs Hans has won mostly due to work of his own, as a wolf and a human. Therefor, it can be easily seen that he is a valuable player.

I think the vote for me is a little odd Chardish. It didn't really have any basis. I don't see how my statement could be outwardly suspicious in the least. So my anti-phantom-safety-vote goes for chardish. The other thing that makes me suspicious of Chardish is the whole "note from Chardish" thing. I have no idea what it's contents were, but it seems to imply that Chardish might have somehow known Hans was blue, and that makes it very possible he could be the one responsible for last night's wolfing.

P.S. If anyone wants to IM me with the contents of this note to help me clarify the situation to myself, I'd be quite grateful.

[GuidoHunter]

There's been too much jumping on the chardish train for my likes. While I think he doesn't have a whole lot of substantial evidence on mead, I honestly don't see anything against him. I dunno, really, but neither of you has made what seems to me a wolfish comment.

Also, I don't see what harm there is in posting the "note". All it was was chardish IMming a few people with the message "TWG. if i die, hans is a wolf." This was sent out before Day 1. One can draw many different conclusions from reading this, but it's evident that chardish and Hans were in communication with each other from the game's beginning.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[lightdarkness]

Day ends saturday night at 7pm eastern.

[alainbryden]

Ugh, if I must say something...

Been talking to tass lately, I get the impression he's overconfident, and take back the notion of sitting back and doing nothing. He doesn't have this game as in-hand as I thought. Not that I can blame him. He may be a confirmed human but he still has no better indication of who wolves are then any of us, except for one free guess with the seer per night.

I'm taking a stab at Kefit, whom I expect alot out of in every game, moreso than other people. Generally makes 2 post per day but he just hasn't been human in my eyes so far this game. With one initial post reflecting on last game, and then one other briefly attacking Blah, Guido and I based on inactivity, primarily Guido. I usually feel strong human support from Kefit but not this game, so I'll go with this impression and say Kefit is not playing the way he usually does. He doesn't seem to have his heart with the humans, allthough maybe his heart isn't in the game at all.

[talisman]

There's been too much jumping on the chardish train for my likes.

If by "too much jumping on the chardish train" you mean "two posts criticizing his vote rationale"....

But anyway, the only other observation I have is that alain seems to be playing a much, I don't know, quieter game than he normally does. Maybe it's just because of the lack of info to work with but I always expected him to be more vocal, not complaining about posting with "Ugh, if I must say something...". I could say the same thing about blah, too.

Also, in general, I notice alot of people being very cautious in their posts, especially with votes (I am probably one of these people), caching votes within several layers of caveat and such: "This is just what I think... it could easily be wrong, though, so don't take it too seriously" etc.

One final observation is that with tass undoubtedly telling the blues not to stick their necks out too far and the wolves obviously not wanting to stir up much conversation, the humans are left in the middle with nothing (Ok, a day's voting history and two night's lynchings) to talk about. Perhaps that's why it's been so quiet.

[Kilgamayan]

I have not yet seen a good reason to change my vote for blah from last round, so I'm going to stick with it.

[Tasselfoot]

As I am the first to say to anyone, my TWG game is based around facts/voting rather than behavior. So, I'm not so good with the behavior differences. Others have pointed this out, and I must say that I don't disagree with them...

Alain is generally the 1st person to give lots of information on many people and THEN make a vote, instead this game, on back to back days, has given reasoning on ONE person and voted them. Not sure what to make of this, but the 2 people I was seriously looking at on day 1 were Alain and Blah, and nothing has changed this game.

I'm leaning towards Alain at this point.

[mead1]

That is about what I said on Day 1 Tass, Alain has just been about 180 degrees different this game. Now that I know what the "chardish note" is, I don't have that much suspicion on him. But as on Day 1, I feel my vote will rest on alain. He just isn't being who everyone knows he is. Also, he has voted kefit and whorli, for very little reason at all, it seems. Maybe it is just harder to give lots of info when you already know who the wolves are...

[alainbryden]

You asked for something to discuss, and I gave you something to discuss. Do not first vote for me because you think I'm being inactive, and then vote for me because you think I am trying to hard to justify a vote for someone (which I wasn't, as you would see if you read the 'stab' context of my previous post.). Tass I can't go listing behaviours of everyone, because there has been little more than 3 posts, 2 relevant perhaps, for each person in this game. I also can't go defending people as I usually do, because no one is making an honest attack on anyone, except for on myself at this point.

I am, as always, trying, in spite of what little there is, to discuss.

Mead, I find it hard to take your voting pattens seriously after your rediculous revenge vote on Chardish.