TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

[bugkid666]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

The Votecount

benguino (5) - DaBackpack, XelNya, ShadoWolfe, Hateandhatred, the sun fan

botchi246 (2) - benguino, FreezinIce
star-crossed (2) - bugkid666, mellon_collie
DaBackpack (1) - Hakulyte
the sun fan (1) - _Zenith_
bugkid666 (1) - star-crossed

Not voting - botchi246

The Votecount
_Zenith_ (3) - XelNya, the sun fan, ShadoWolfe
Hateandhatred (3) - FreezinIce, star-crossed, DaBackpack

botchi246 (2) - Hakulyte, bugkid666

DaBackpack (1) - Hateandhatred
ShadoWolfe (1) - botchi246
Hakulyte (1) - _Zenith_

this doesnt add any info we dont already know but it helps me to be able to visualize potential wolf teams

would two wolves really pile onto a wolf zenith? maybe thats why dbp swapped last minute?

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

i would entertain voting botchi zenith or backpack today, not currently interested in anyone else today

you really ought to narrow that list down because, hypothetically, shadowolfe can look at this list and be on a team with botchi and dbp and be like
"yup, I love the idea of a zenith kill today, let's do it"

maybe you were already doing that idk but like
don't cast the net too wide

[bugkid666]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

i would entertain voting botchi zenith or backpack today, not currently interested in anyone else today

[bugkid666]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

The self-meta posting this game has made me want to drag certain people for the rest of the game

For me personally, this is always an overwhelming negative and I've kind of hit my last straw with it

You're not qualified to talk about your own game, unless you're using your post history to do it, because at least we can walk through your actions and follow your thoughts to check them out, which I don't think your statement here works for at all

colour me annoyed at you for the moment, I might come back to it later

that's fair, i didnt consider that, and i get that it comes across as a bit cheeky.

meta is sometimes all we have i think. but also i think wolves lean on that "defense" as a scapegoat for not providing real insight so i understand the annoyance

[XelNya]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

My cat has been meowing at me to go entertain her while I write this

this is extremely nasty and you will be lynched for it dabackpack

I like, see where you're coming from but, I dunno if it's thaaaaaaaat harsh

granted dbp played a horrible d1, let's not skirt the issue there, but

this fucking sucks

zenith

He kind of foreshadowed his vote was one he wasn't happy with, so I'm a bit less cut the head off about it

but an explanation of his thought process from his perspective would be better if it's not present yet

But now that I have finished page 55 (1,100) I'm a bit more happy to see your post, the avoidance of it at this point other than to say "bet" with like 20 ish minutes is bad in the "I don't think he can explain it well sort of manner

Calling it on zenith/botchi/bugkid.

The (how the hell was I supposed to find that?) team.

Question for you then

with the kills:

Raeko -> Star

and lynches:

Benguin -> Hatred

can you layout why you think these night kills apply to those three people, because like

I could entertain bugkid probably the most at a glance for the kills
I couldn't entertain them for the lynches, I feel scum bugkid defends ben more / better as a clean pocket maybe, do we think a wolf openly like

uses a defense post to subtly hint ben should go so blatantly
(I'm quite hung up on that post tbh, might even be a slight tunnel on it going forward.)

Botchi I don't know enough about as a player, I'm fucking lost there
Zenith is sort of like, can we prescribe malice to crashing out and leaving as a wolf with these actions in mind

I dunno if I get there with the star kill hindsight, and that'd be more ballsy than I think this game could handle? Maybe I'm being too nice despite my feelings on Zenith being overwhelmingly low here

i would have to be playing an incredible wolf game as my first one ever, and instead im just playing a dogshit town game. cmon yall use your big juicy brains

The self-meta posting this game has made me want to drag certain people for the rest of the game

For me personally, this is always an overwhelming negative and I've kind of hit my last straw with it

You're not qualified to talk about your own game, unless you're using your post history to do it, because at least we can walk through your actions and follow your thoughts to check them out, which I don't think your statement here works for at all

colour me annoyed at you for the moment, I might come back to it later

How do you think you would play your first wolf game ?

Oh, shut up

anyways

...i think its less likely to frame him and more likely that since they "cleared" each other, a raeko kill would theoretically be unlikely to come from xel therefore absolving him of that crime, to most people...

To sort of navigate this point without openly being a hypocrite

I don't think saying we "cleared" each other is fair, for starters she only voted elsewhere I'd say begurdgingly

if nobody is down to go for Xel I will switch my vote to Star

I just don't feel the towniness that I would expect from Star, I got weird vibes from a few posts and I want to trust my initial feelings without overthinking things too hard

If we wanna reparse it that's fine but, I do think stating we "cleared" each other is a bit of a stretch if not infringing on malicious here, I really don't like it

all 3 wolves gotta be in the top votes.
i dont see a sunfan wolf, so its gotta be in xel, dbp, freezin and shado

i think im trending town on bugkid and haku but idk zenith. i think our lynchpool should be those 4.

and since i tried using math last day, i think my math is here is still strong

i just really dont see a wolf just voting by themself. but thats just me.

we can have some coffee, have a chat

Hiya, long time no see, hows the day going

I see you're in this nice cafe, working on a little article there...

feels like it's missing a bit something though, sir, it's a tad short, could use some expansion here and there, you know really fill the page friend

and she just zoomied off, welp

[botchi246]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

aside from the last hour or so of EOD, yall might be looking at my content for this phase, unfortunately. I'll try to post some more tonight

it is worse than I thought
I am dropping a vote on zenith to at least do something

I encourage town to reconsider the status quo (yes I know I just voted zenith) because there ARE wolves outside of it at this point

one doesn't NEED to find a deep wolf here, but we need to begin constructing teams that can include that
like if zenith is red, shadowolfe is NOT zenith's partner
that's the kind of thing we need to be thinking about and trying to make sense of

i can get behind this. time to sus em out/


also dbp, whats the word

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

aside from the last hour or so of EOD, yall might be looking at my content for this phase, unfortunately. I'll try to post some more tonight

it is worse than I thought
I am dropping a vote on zenith to at least do something

I encourage town to reconsider the status quo (yes I know I just voted zenith) because there ARE wolves outside of it at this point

one doesn't NEED to find a deep wolf here, but we need to begin constructing teams that can include that
like if zenith is red, shadowolfe is NOT zenith's partner
that's the kind of thing we need to be thinking about and trying to make sense of

[bugkid666]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

i unfortunately will also be around very little tomorrow, and may even miss eod. i was kicking myself for not pushing dbp more last phase but now i really this this may be more likely

I want to do a mic drop too

Xel / botchi / zenith

I'd go to Vegas and bet I'm at least 2/3 here

i'm torn, and hope xel and zenith can talk more.

[bugkid666]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

Star <-> bugkid vote crossing each other. Post is #400 for bugkid's.

Kinda curious if your thoughts changed overall at this point if you're looking back at this.

after d0 i was less interested in solving star which is why i dropped it. the weirdo feelings went away, i cant even tell you what exactly it was that was bothering me. sunfan mightve been contributing to those feelings. in hindsight i think its probably never a good idea to kill star d0. i really didnt want to kill ben though

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

Also, I agree, the potential of a wolf within Freezin and Shado is freaking me out. But it's mostly driven by paranoia.

There might be one power wolf, but less likely to be two. Normally I'd be inclined to try to expose them to "cut the head off the snake", but I actually wonder if it makes more strategic sense to draw them out by targeting the lower posters. It might not work this phase because wolves have a safe buffer and wouldn't necessarily feel the need to overextend to protect a partner, but if we can get them down to 2, then it will become much more necessary for wolves to cover each other.

Maybe it's just because of the mountainous setup, which I'm not used to, or if we've (I've) just been doing so poorly and self-sabotaging that the wolves have never really felt the need to intervene and lead discussion. Which is why it doesn't feel like there's a whole lot to go off of even today.

anyways, I'm doing a mild reset and summoning botchi to the stand

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

I feel better (not 100%) after sleeping instead of worse (which was my fear)
so that's good

I'll try to get a lot done today since I won't really be here tomorrow

I'm kinda worried I've let one (or hell, two) of freezin/shado get away with war crimes

I've also never really had any kind of read on hakulyte, once I found star town I was just trusting her read there tbh

I gotta fix all that or I won't be happy

anyways good morning I hope everyone has a nice friday

I hope you have a nice Friday too.

I had a mad scientist idea this morning and I think I'm gonna make it. It'll probably be fairly useless but a cute little tchotchke for TWG enjoyers. Please look forward to it

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

I feel better (not 100%) after sleeping instead of worse (which was my fear)
so that's good

I'll try to get a lot done today since I won't really be here tomorrow

I'm kinda worried I've let one (or hell, two) of freezin/shado get away with war crimes

I've also never really had any kind of read on hakulyte, once I found star town I was just trusting her read there tbh

I gotta fix all that or I won't be happy

anyways good morning I hope everyone has a nice friday

[botchi246]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

Is there a point to do wagonomics ?

Should we take a different approach ? Like evaluate tone reads. Do you think some players can fake their "genuine ability to talk" etc.

We could make pairings for fun, but idk how relevant that would be overall here. It could at least spark discussion.

i think there are definitely players that can fake that, but only the most experienced. i think every single person in the top votes could fake it except maybe shado, just because i dont know enough. thats based on meta though ew.

but at this point, i really dont think sunfan is faking anything, but if he is..... then he made that explanation post, the heart to heart, completely falsely and that would hurt me personally.

cant see it, wont see it

[botchi246]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

all 3 wolves gotta be in the top votes.
i dont see a sunfan wolf, so its gotta be in xel, dbp, freezin and shado

i think im trending town on bugkid and haku but idk zenith. i think our lynchpool should be those 4.

and since i tried using math last day, i think my math is here is still strong

i just really dont see a wolf just voting by themself. but thats just me.

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

The Votecount

benguino (4) - DaBackpack, XelNya, FreezinIce, ShadoWolfe

star-crossed (3) - benguino, bugkid666, mellon_collie
DaBackpack (2) - Hakulyte, the sun fan
the sun fan (1) - _Zenith_
bugkid666 (1) - star-crossed

Not voting - Hateandhatred, botchi246

Star <-> bugkid vote crossing each other. Post is #400 for bugkid's.

star nevermind i'm not gonna insta i forgot how many fuckin people there are in this game. personally i just need star solved because i've been having some weird thoughts about their posts that i don't usually have. i actually don't disagree that sunfan could be a wolf. i think it's unlikely raeko ben or zenith are wolves.

i get what everyone is saying about ben, i can even see it. but in all honesty it just reads too messy to be crafted by a wolf. reads way more to me like someone who hasn't played in a while, who is playing with some people they have either never played with or haven't in many years. i guess they just don't read scummy to me, just frazzled.

Kinda curious if your thoughts changed overall at this point if you're looking back at this.