TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

gonna say this and lurker is going to hate it but idgaf

lurker's hated vt claim is possibly bullshit due to two things

1) he claimed hated before announcing what form of hated he was

2) even him claiming vt, there is 2/3 chance he can be bullshitting to save face

fwiw work with that for a moment

[Nighthawk252]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

if you're a one-shot bp investigation immune SK you know there are 5 Ks and there's a lot to be gained from that. if you're a cult leader with your cultist you know there are 5 Cs. it is potentially bad setup analysis but I think his justification for lynching a survivor on the grounds that there's a high chance of lynching a town on a coin flip (which there very well might not be) is someone opportunistically trying to remove zenith

Why would anyone in the situations you described use the information they got from their non-aligned role PM to justify their lynch? It seems to me like it's much more likely to be bad setup analysis than an indication that he's a role which by definition is unlikely to be in the setup at all.

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

I think lurker is real because he would've been counterclaimed now and it's been noted that there is definitely a hated towny

not gonna point out where cause it's potentially bad for town

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

You said you were going to play town. Saying things like that makes me doubt that more than I already do. You want the game to end quickly, and aligning yourself with the faction(s) that can kill is your safest way to do that.

I guess you don't believe multiple iterations of myself claiming I'm pledged with town this game regardless of my role and I have no intentions of backstabbing because this setup is fucky enough as it is and working with wolves means I'm lynched and that's against my wincon; thereby the best bet for myself is to work with town and announce everything.

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

Why would anyone in the situations you described use the information they got from their non-aligned role PM to justify their lynch? It seems to me like it's much more likely to be bad setup analysis than an indication that he's a role which by definition is unlikely to be in the setup at all.

I think it's probably a slip, but even so I don't like how he prioritizes the survivor

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

I think lurker is real because he would've been counterclaimed now and it's been noted that there is definitely a hated towny

not gonna point out where cause it's potentially bad for town

I don't think there is a confirmed hated towny in the game

all we know is lurker claimed hated towny, and he heavily implies he is the second hated roll which leads you to claiming there's definitely a hated towny and that lurker is real

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

I don't think there is a confirmed hated towny in the game

all we know is lurker claimed hated towny, and he heavily implies he is the second hated roll which leads you to claiming there's definitely a hated towny and that lurker is real

no someone definitely said (and this was bad) that they knew there was one and I don't think they were lying

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

no someone definitely said (and this was bad) that they knew there was one and I don't think they were lying

if you say so; then I'm going to quickly try to skim through and see if someone confirmed it other than lurker

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

fwiw here's where I'm at in terms of potential alignments

me: town lol
nawk: probably town
mashi/plop: I feel like there's a 3rd party between them, not sure about who the other one is
freaky: 3rd party/wolf
zenith: hated survivor
lurker: hated towny
storn: jester or something non-town
charu: no idea
roundbox: no idea
dbp: town

[lurker]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

1) he claimed hated before announcing what form of hated he was

are you fucking joking

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

hmmmmmmmmm

again I nearly forgot funnybro existed

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

are you fucking joking

whoops, meant to put iirc I forget if it actually happened
if it didn't then my bad but option 2 can still stand

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

oh I forgot fg

I think she's town

[Funnygurl555]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

Cool this does not take into account things past like page... 50.

2. _Zenith_ I have no choice but to tentatively accept Zenith's claim.

3. Nighthawk252: I'll be real, I'm afraid of you because from what I've heard about you, you're a pretty great TWG'er. You're apparently acting within your meta though.

At first, I was leaning towards disliking your posts because you were in commentary mode, but recently you've made an effort of interacting with townies. On top of that, I like your reads. So there we go

Also the blue sunglasses smiley emoticon thingy you use for like half your posts makes me laugh rofl

4. freakysnots: freakysnots? Eh, I don't know what to think of him. He hasn't provided much except for saying that we should lynch Zenith. That's safe, sure, but I don't get why he wasn't stressing a NK as much. I kinda agree that there's no present harm with keeping Zenith around for ####. I believe him when he says that he wants to fight with the town too; prolly something Zenith would do.

That said, he's not a safe lynch. He simply hasn't posted enough for us to have good information on him. If he rolls town, then what?

5. AragakiAyase: Alright, so I'm thinking AA's third party. I don't think he's a wolf because his interactions with others in the thread suggest that he doesn't have teammates to support him. He's like... fighting everyone.
Posts like these are, as aforementioned, pretty incriminating though.

He apparently withholds information unless asked to provide it as well, which leads me to believe that he is to an extent conjuring up new information when defending himself
For example, this, i don't buy this
Also wasn't buying his reasoning on j-rodd so I mean there we go

His frustration with how people read him was something I saw in his last game where he was town; I'm not sure if he would be frustrated enough to stop posting and sleep last night if we were right about him.

6. MrPopadopalis25: There isn't anything that I dislike about his posts. He disagreed with me on the Charu thing, sure, but that's not incriminating at all that just means WE HAVE DIFFERENT MINDS

Also pretty bad at reading him anyway because he posts so carefully stop it

7. DaBackPack: Easily not a wolf. Shouldn't die today. Thinking he's straight up town.
this seemed very natural, and like half of his posts seem to mention how frustrated he is with jesters, which again seems very town-sided to want to ping them out and avoid them.

8. lurker: Peeps don't attempt to counterclaim someone unless they're right or have a death wish. Lurker could be the jester. Lurker could be a hated townie

Either way, lurker doesn't die.

9. j-rodd123: Thinking j-rodd isn't a wolf here. He seems to be pretty paranoid about who to label as #lockclear, and as a wolf he usually can post a lot but won't be at the forefront of major decisions in a phase. Could be a third party; could be town

10. choof/roundbox: Was thinking choof was town based on tone, but he seemed to disappear a bit later on in the game, although that may have not been his fault
Choof's slot is pretty clean though, but I might wait on roundbox to play the game before diving any further

11. Charu: I don't think Charu is town here, and as a wolf his behavior is fishy enough to get him caught. I'm thinking there's a good chance he's third party. Wouldn't mind seeing him gone since we'll probably worry about him a lot more in later phases.

12. Charles Claythorne: I can't read Mashi =(
He seems too quick to give off town reads though. I'm not sure how serious Mashi was about that but I would imagine that in a game like this people would be more wary about who to give off townie passes to.
He's also been mostly playing in commentary mode this phase. That makes it really easy to hide as a wolf. I wouldn't mind seeing Mashi gone to be honest, but maybe not off of what I have now.

13. storn42: Don't think storn rolled wolf here. Even though peeps were worried about him earlier in the phase *and* lurker did that entire thingamajig with fakeclaiming wolf, he was really calm and reacted well to pressure.
For that reason I would think he's a town lean, but he hasn't done enough for me to neglect the chance that he could be a third party. He also hasn't interacted much with the rest of the town, so I don't have much data points for that
For what it's worth though, he's also concerned with avoiding jesters, meaning he wants a productive lynch.

Cool I'm done that was terrible but I mean what can I do I took a nap in the middle of this reads list. I'm still sleepy but you know gotta make it to EOD.

While I'm at it, I should mention this before EOD: if I make it to next day phase, I have a cousin from Australia coming to visit for the weekend and I need to pay attention to him, so there's a chance I might not be around as much as you guys would like.

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

what about jrodd