TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

Tbh I've been thinking of lynching zenith today

If we resolve to kill him later, the wolves will be indistinguishable from Townes on that wagon because it's "safe"

And in coming days we NEED wolf reads -- a zenith lynch helps the wolves THE LEAST if we do it today

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

Basically zenith's entire existence is a liability except in one condition:

We decide to let him live and we win before it gets to final 3

Which literally is not something we can plan

[AragakiAyase]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

[QUOTE=_Zenith_;4347214]By statistically I mean I am doubting he is a wolf because of the smaller chance he rolled wolf again, but it doesn't mean he can't be a 3rd party like you are saying.

QUOTE]

since we're apparently getting into statistics here, his previous rolls as wolf have no effect on his chances of rolling wolf this game. I will all but rule out the 5C roll because as has been pointed out it's unlikely; the reason I pointed it out in the first place was because I didn't want you to rule it out when it's still possible, even if it's nearly impossible.

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

Tbh I've been thinking of lynching zenith today

If we resolve to kill him later, the wolves will be indistinguishable from Townes on that wagon because it's "safe"

And in coming days we NEED wolf reads -- a zenith lynch helps the wolves THE LEAST if we do it today

Aren't you pretty much saying at any point in the game it's a "safe lynch"

Lynching me today is also indistinguishable from wolves and town because it's still the "safest lynch"

[YoshL]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

angleshooting is a modkillable offense, determined by unethical reasoning such as using the mod as a meta point.

AA is not angleshooting in the slightest.

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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 2 -- j-rodd123 -- storn42 (26), lurker (71)
• 2 -- freakysnots -- Nighthawk252 (31), j-rodd123 (116)
• 1 -- Charu -- Charles Claythorne (46)
• 1 -- AragakiAyase -- _Zenith_ (148)
• 1 -- lurker -- Funnygurl555 (55)
• 1 -- _Zenith_ -- freakysnots (13)
• 1 -- choof -- MrPopadopalis25 (50)
• 3 -- unvote -- DaBackpack (141), choof (67), AragakiAyase (96)
• 1 -- not voting -- Charu (66)

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

Basically zenith's entire existence is a liability except in one condition:

We decide to let him live and we win before it gets to final 3

Which literally is not something we can plan

You are right here except at this point I am practically +1 to town as I live and it gives town a slight edge at possibly finding wolves

However with everyone literally "on the fence" on who they want to see lynched except for myself, it's hard to actually nail a more effective 3rd party role or a wolf.

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

Aren't you pretty much saying at any point in the game it's a "safe lynch"

Lynching me today is also indistinguishable from wolves and town because it's still the "safest lynch"

Yes and it's better to do that now then miss out on information later

Wolves will feel pressure as days continue, and a lynch on you will relieve that pressure which hurts town

It's a free day to live for wolves basically -- both that they aren't a target and that they don't actually have to think and make analyses on other players.

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

I guess to be more concise, the more contiguous days where wolves have to actually try, the better

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

I guess to be more concise, the more contiguous days where wolves have to actually try, the better

I agree

But this puts you in a good spot and I'm a bit hesitant about that.

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

I strongly recommend lynching the survivor today. If we can't do that, no lynch is magnitudes better than what is essentially a random lynch on Day 1. Remember that this game is role heavy, so we will have more information lynching on Day 2. This is why lynching the survivor is the best lynch, since he is guaranteed to not be human.

Thirds aren't priority right now.

e.g. Cult Leader can target the wolf, converting them or straight up dying. Killer can kill the Cult Leader / wolf.

There is too high of a risk of lynching a human right now due to the lack of information.

This whole post has a hint of natural tone to it yet seems forced in a way

Survivor is 3rd party, yet he says "Thirds aren't priority right now"

There isn't a high risk of lynching a human if town plans to get rid of me asap right?

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

This is of course in lieu of actual strong wolf reads

Which I feel is currently the case

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

Also I just realized I cannot be the hidden lynchee in any means

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

Storn might be the hidden lynchee actually

[Nighthawk252]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

If j-rodd is a Wolf again, I would expect his posting to decline as the game progresses, which we can judge later if it comes to it. Do you feel the content of his posts don't seem Human to you? Even someone as amazing as j-rodd gets tired of rolling Wolf so often tbh

Oh, I missed this. I think some people were really quick to give him a town read for post #21 which is the first time he says he's happy to be town. I definitely remember at least one person who read him town for that post. I have been reading his recent activity as town though because that's harder to fake than just saying "happy to be town". I've also been reading his aggression as town though I'm basing that off a really small sample size.

[Nighthawk252]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

Storn might be the hidden lynchee actually

I think YoshL said that anyone but the lyncher can be the hidden lynchee. It's contradictory in the setup in a few places but I'll trust YoshL's interpretation of it. It says

First, randomize the roles, then pick a random player to be the Hidden Lynchee, no matter what alignment

but it also lists a hidden lynchee's role PM as a town role PM.