TWG Turbo XXV: Enemy Zero - Postgame

[inDheart]

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setup thoughts:
asceticizer was in the game as an anti-role-cop, but isn't really able to get clear on actions in this game. it's maybe a role that's better in bigger games, and as sunfan pointed out to me when he used it in FE, it's typically wolf aligned. i'm just thinking of other possible worlds that go differently than this game did and i think asc still has value as a second available claim, but that would be true of any second role.

i don't think wolves did too-too much PR hunting, but having role copped sunfan and noticing the dynamic between sunfan and xiz led them to think xiz could be asc. in that way i think the role cop paid off for them even though they hit all vanillas, and it felt like a nice substitute include rather than "lol, wolves need a power, give em a blocker"

there was no daychat, OR assigned kills, guys, smh, but me posting to correct those kinds of errors is too much outside influence imo
(actually i didn't say anything about assigned kills, but they don't matter to the mechanics of this game)

[Gradiant]

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And then you tell me I'm gonna keep getting lynched unless I stop being myself

That shouldn't have been the only thing you got out of sunfan's post.

[MixMasterLar]

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SunFan you did much better then you're giving yourself credit for. Yeah, shoulda killed Cel when he voted but hey man you where getting fatigued at that point and talking it out with both wolves and only both wolves. The remaining town really, truly let you down on that one.

Lar said he was sorry for telling me to replace out so
I think I can be cool with what happened as long as he didn't intentionally slowroll

I am absolutely sorry I said replaced out. I did not realize that would hurt as much as it did and my apologize was not just wolflar saying shit.

I did not hammer because even when you revoted I thought it a trick and figured Cel would not try a second time. After like an hour of refreshing and see your name down there watching the thread I basically decided the safest way was to let it all play out and pray DBP wouldn't make a great case against me.

So like, I'll admit I made the choice to do it slow but it was not done with the intention of gloating or bragging. FMPOV there where enough mistakes on my part throughout the game that if me or Cel fell that you guys would get us the next phase. Again, you say you played badly but I don't think you did.

I legit feel bad for town that Blind played the way he played though. I am with Raeko that can be tolerated long term.

[the sun fan]

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And then you tell me I'm gonna keep getting lynched unless I stop being myself

oh jeez that should be worded differently
sorry

what I mean is I think you need to change your meta
that uh
was nowhere near what I meant for it to sound like

[the sun fan]

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That shouldn't have been the only thing you got out of sunfan's post.

it uh
is understandable if it upset him

[the sun fan]

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I get the idea there lar but like... its not usually a trick
you're just going to win 99% of the time by putting his name in the voting tags because I can't react to it
you made tons of posts there and I mean yeah there's always the risk of me trying to trap but after like... 10 minutes of me not unvoting I think its pretty reasonable to assume I'm not moving

[the sun fan]

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the thing I think I can take from this game and be happy about (other than the roundbox meme being a thing) is that if Xiz and I don't do what we did, I think town wins.

We both have lynch orders of cel/lar/dbp in different order and I think we were mostly coming together before then.

[MixMasterLar]

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I get the idea there lar but like... its not usually a trick
you're just going to win 99% of the time by putting his name in the voting tags because I can't react to it
you made tons of posts there and I mean yeah there's always the risk of me trying to trap but after like... 10 minutes of me not unvoting I think its pretty reasonable to assume I'm not moving

Shrugs
Hindsight's 20/20. I was getting paranoid and didn't want to risk it.
I had no idea you guys where going to take it as this giant middle finger anyway. I'm not trying to be dense here but if the safest way to win is to take it to the end of a phase that we already knew we where playing to then IDK what to tell you.

I get that if I did this just to throw it back in your face post game that it would be a dick move but that's not what happened.

[blindreper1179]

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Props lar, first time you honestly fooled me.

[inDheart]

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honestly i would just preview post then send right away if i don't see anything in the preview

snap that vote right off

[j-rodd123]

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votes being locked in at must lynch would prevent something like that, just sayin

[j-rodd123]

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assuming i know what happened, i didnt read the game at all but from post game i take it that lar couldve instad someone to win the game but didnt

[MixMasterLar]

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SO UH

Yeah I kept thinking that after Cel was caught he unvoted and that didn't happened


I thought to try again me and Cel would have to sync votes once more and I knew SunFan wasn't going to let 2 of us do it

So all criticism at me being bad that last phase is actually legit I had no idea all I had to do was just vote you guys couldn't respond

I would have done that 100% vs waiting on Bind and DBP showing up and possibly undoing all my hard work

[the sun fan]

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honestly i would just preview post then send right away if i don't see anything in the preview

snap that vote right off

you can even construct a post along the lines of "hey here's why I think blind is scummy

reason a
reason b
reason c
[vote for blindreper]"

so that even if someone sneaks in an unvote before you post that insta-triggering vote, it doesn't look like you were trying to end the game but

that seems pretty unnecessary

[the sun fan]

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assuming i know what happened, i didnt read the game at all but from post game i take it that lar couldve instad someone to win the game but didnt

yeah that's what happened

I mentioned it during the game, I think it might make sense in turbos, but in games like mystery games where the number of wolves might not be known to the town, it wouldn't make sense