jTWG XXIV: iTWG

[x3Mamimi]

Re: jTWG XXIV: iTWG

I'm thinking that there probably was no wolfing but there is one player who's superior in the eyes of the others who wasn't on to direct them. This is what happened in the jTWG manti's talking about.

From what I understood, Nija (wolf) Wasn't on to tell the other two players (first timerssss) what to do, so they simply didn't send in a kill.

Obviously, this isn't too likely, but it did happen...
Throwing it out there and sorry if someone else did, I wanted to post on the subject and didn't exactly read it all...Hah.

[DarkManticoreX2]

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I'd like to bring this to a new page because its causing quite a stir it seems.

Other people wern't so active:
JWC (1 night post about 7 minutes into the night about how it was dumb to kill mouse guy)
Mamimi (1 night post about 5 minutes into the night)
DDR (3 posts, but all in a small time period)
Kent (2 posts, both at seperate times)

People that did not night post:

Yessss
Farka
Jugglin

Added JWC to the other people who weren't so active list. apparently I missed him the first go round.

[DiscoBobbyPARANOiA]

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oh!

You are not allowed to edit because it makes it possible for people to remove incriminating evidence from their previous posts.

I am the host. I am allowed to edit.

That was gay. Quit kissing her ass ffs.

Stop.

rofl.

Stop.

I was just commenting on the fact that.. Gah. Never mind, not important ><

Stop.

Stop.

When you dolts move up to TWG they will not deal with this crap. Ask JWC, he knows first hand. Also, I know I did it a few times as well, but I said to stop. Therefore. Stop.

ps. I don't really think you guys are retarded. I just don't like looking at the thread and having to filter out every other post.

[Farka]

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Manti, look what Disco is posting. Why would I contribute to that crap. I was on aim ALL night, until Day 2 began. If I had been a wolf I'd of PM'd Disco. Stop being retarded. You're theory is ridiculous.

[Farka]

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http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/7695/rofldn6.png

OH. What is this? Oh wait. I DID POST. Good job not looking 4-5 pages back I was the first post of page 11 or 10. Way to go. I posted twice.

[Demon_Of_The_Comet]

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Wow, i honestly don't see how i could dumb down my information for you. Forget it, i give up, IM me if you wanna bitch about something.

[Yesssss]

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Also, Yess, I'm alive. I have no idea where you thought I'd be dead.

I'm sorry I mistook you for Makilaz. I don't remember why I did then.

[Demon_Of_The_Comet]

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Everyone get online, we need to make a chat.

[Demon_Of_The_Comet]

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Throwing wild vote out there.
Manti

Seems like he's eager to link any weak bit of evidence to someone being a wolf. Not to mention he's not funny, and just plain annoying.

[FictionJunction]

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Well I think everyone wants to link anything they have to a possible wolf >>" There are no leads yet; it'd be normal if people were to do this, as some already have.

[kentbball]

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I'm extremely suspicious of flaw. He will not explain anything at all to me. All he will say on AIM is, "Read the thread. Everything is explained in there." Well, Everything is not explained in the thread.

The only thing that he told me was that he came out as a mason to the seer on night 1, before the seer even came out to him. Doesn't make much sense to me...

I know that flaw is smart. So why the heck, if he is actually a mason, would he come out to anybody night one... and after that why would he trust them when they say he is seer.

The only possible thing I can think of is this:
flaw came out to a random person on night 1. Flaw would think if the person he came out to on night 1 is a wolf, he would immediately be wolfed night 1. The wolves could easily recognize this and use it to their advantage. The wolves didn't kill him to gain flaw's trust and got the shaman/another wolf (the person that flaw came out to as mason on night 1) to come out to flaw and tell him to lynch makilaz who was seered blue/green by the shaman. Flaw would trust him.

What I want to know is why flaw came out randomly on night 1? I don't get it. There is no reason for a mason to come out to somebody on night 1.

It seems to me that he just keeps making up lies. I think that flaw and the seer (according to flaw) are both wolves. They decided that people would believe flaw and that people would trust him when he said to lynch makilaz. When people started asking, "Well why did the seer come out to you if he seered makilaz?" he then proceeded to lie and say "I came out to him as a mason before he came out to me on night one. He trusted me, seered a red, and got me to be the spokesperson. They didn't think that the people would risk killing the seer's spokesperson and a mason. If flaw isn't willing to explain himself then I am willing to take that risk.

My vote is flawofhumanity for now untill he explains himself.

[flawofhumanity]

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I'm extremely suspicious of flaw. He will not explain anything at all to me. All he will say on AIM is, "Read the thread. Everything is explained in there." Well, Everything is not explained in the thread.

The only thing that he told me was that he came out as a mason to the seer on night 1, before the seer even came out to him. Doesn't make much sense to me...

I know that flaw is smart. So why the heck, if he is actually a mason, would he come out to anybody night one... and after that why would he trust them when they say he is seer.

The only possible thing I can think of is this:
flaw came out to a random person on night 1. Flaw would think if the person he came out to on night 1 is a wolf, he would immediately be wolfed night 1. The wolves could easily recognize this and use it to their advantage. The wolves didn't kill him to gain flaw's trust and got the shaman/another wolf (the person that flaw came out to as mason on night 1) to come out to flaw and tell him to lynch makilaz who was seered blue/green by the shaman. Flaw would trust him.

What I want to know is why flaw came out randomly on night 1? I don't get it. There is no reason for a mason to come out to somebody on night 1.

It seems to me that he just keeps making up lies. I think that flaw and the seer (according to flaw) are both wolves. They decided that people would believe flaw and that people would trust him when he said to lynch makilaz. When people started asking, "Well why did the seer come out to you if he seered makilaz?" he then proceeded to lie and say "I came out to him as a mason before he came out to me on night one. He trusted me, seered a red, and got me to be the spokesperson. They didn't think that the people would risk killing the seer's spokesperson and a mason. If flaw isn't willing to explain himself then I am willing to take that risk.

My vote is flawofhumanity for now untill he explains himself.

Ugh...I cant believe I'm going to have to re-explain myself, but I will. Everything may not be stated outright on the thread, but most of this can be safely inferred, and has been stated many times in chats in which I think you were present.

Now then, why would a mason come out to ANYONE on night 1? Good choice of words. I came out because of a plan that the masons formed before nija and fiction and everyone posted their suggestions. The plan was to tell one person that I am a mason, and if I'm suddenly lynched, that person is likely to be a wolf. If not, while it by no means makes him a human, it does make him a wolf in a bad position if he is a wolf. While he's not sure I'm a mason, or that anyone else knows besides him, I have a better chance to talk to him, can do so more openly, and I don't have to worry about 4 wolves suddenly ganging up and lynching me for an insta or something, because he can't vote for me because he knows and eventually would trust that I am a mason. The downside to this strategy was it completely went against the basis of the other's much better strategies, and could potentially ruin it. However, I apparently chose the right person.

Now, how would I know that when this person came to me as the seer, he was actually the seer? Well, like I've also stated many times his previous actions BEFORE he introduced himself as seer coincide with the information he provided AFTERWARDS. Other than this, he has done other things to convince me of his "seerness" and even so, we aren't trusting him blindly or fully even, not by a long shot. We're proceeding as if he seered me and then came to me basically. We're going through the same suggested procedures as what was implied we should do within each strategy or suggestion or possibility or whatever the politically correct term at the moment is.

Also, I came out to the seer on DAY 1, not night 1, and that was a mistype to you on my part. I hope this answers your questions, and if not, I'll deal with it later.

[kentbball]

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So if you came out to him on day one...

Why the heck did you trust him. Why did you get everybody to kill makilaz? You didn't even give him a chance to kill you. For your plan to work you would only trust him on day 2 after he had a chance to wolf you. By doing his dirty work and getting everybody to lynch makilaz it allows them to believe that they have your trust completely.


Also:

Everybody knows that you were the obvious choice for the wolfing last night.

I don't see ANY reason to NOT kill someone other than some sort of misunderstanding.

It seems as though you are trying to blow this off as no big deal. Possibly (This is not a strong arguement, just putting this out there.), you are a wolf and you're trying to cover up the no-wolfing by saying it was a misunderstanding, as you were the obvious choice for the wolfing.

[thunderstrike687]

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kent why are you pushing the flaw idea so much? and why do you insist on trying to do it while making little or no sense. your evidence is weak, and basically all you are doing is casting suspicion on yourself by trying to lynch a mason

Voting kentbball for now.

[FictionJunction]

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Why did you get everybody to kill makilaz?

everyone voted for makilaz out of fear and not having a lead. They did the voting, flaw never forced anyone to vote. He stated in the chat somehting along these lines:

The seer came to me.
He seered Makilaz as red.
I don't know if he's real or not; he may as well be the shaman.
It's up to you to trust that this person is the seer. The kill is up to you guys if you guys trust the information I now have.