View Full Version : TWG XXV - Macho Man (Game OVA)
Kilgamayan
12-14-2005, 10:34 AM
The last troll is in captivity. The website is at peace.
...
Okay, not really. Moogy's still running around. But who cares?
LD took a look at the FFR community and let out a sigh of contentment. It seemed almost surreal that the a0.com community had calmed down on making FFR their most hated enemy. A year ago he never imagined the site would be like this. Truly these were glorious times.
But...something...didn't feel quite right.
Feeling both a need to quench his thirst for humor and an obligation to make sure all was will within the forums, LD wandered over to the Garbage Bin. Clicking on an innocent (but really goddamn stupid) Linkisdoomed topic, he let out a gasp of horror at what he saw.
"rofl stfu losr #machogang is rly cool
ps 8)"
No. This wasn't happening. There was no way this peace was getting ruined. But it was. And suddenly it made sense why something didn't feel right. a0.com didn't die, it just cut a part of itself out and left it to wander on its own. This part was the part that hated FFR.
This part was the part that became MachoGang.
Rushing to the Staff Forum that I have lost access to a record four times, LD sounded the alarm so everyone could take quick notice. As the forum staff and some other unimportant people (mostly chat mods) scrambled to the defensive, he found himself wishing the past to change.
"Goddamnit, how could we lose Kilga to that e-mine last month? He was the best we had. If he were here, he'd know what to do and could solve the problem in a flash, but without him..."
But what happened one month ago happened, and there was nothing he could do about it. So, with grim determination, he drafted the thirteen best civilians FFR had to fight the war. Conveniently, these thirteen civilians were all TWG players. Who knew?
"Okay guys, while all the other staff members are off fighting this new war, we're going to deduce the Macho Gangsters to death. All in favor?"
A chorus of "aye"s was the response.
"Opposed?"
The place was silent, because, after all, alainbryden was AWOL.
"All right, let's get moving!"
---
Tasselfoot
mead1
Afrobean
mattc16
QreepyBORIS
Omeganitros
blahblah18
nickadeemus
talisman
Kefit
Tps222
lightdarkness
GuidoHunter
Neonatrias
Thirteen of you have one simple task - vote out the fourteenth. The fourteenth person has another simple task - don't get voted out. I think we're all big boys and girls here, you know how to play.
Only one PM is being sent out. It should be fairly obvious what role it is. If you don't get a PM, then you're not the wolf. 'Zat simple.
I am not telling you how the lone wolf was chosen. I may have picked him by hand, I may have picked them randomly. YOU'LL NEVER KNOW LOL so don't bother trying to analyze based on what you think I would do because I flipped a coin to decide which method I would use.
Wolf, I await your choices. Everyone else, sleep tight, and try not to get trolled.
Kilgamayan
12-14-2005, 07:17 PM
Day 1
The group broke off and went their ways to investigate. Tasselfoot and talisman went off the Critical Thinking, since it was a popular troll target in the previous war. While investigating there, talisman stumbled upon something that would change his life.
"Hey, I remember making this topic! Ahaha, back in the good old days. What a simpleton I was back the-OH MY GOD!"
"What is it?" Tasselfoot whipped around. He immediately recoiled in horror. talisman was laying there on the e-ground, crying in a fetal position. The nearby thread contained a recent post that told talisman he was stupid.
Tass' lip curled. He recognized the 8) at the end of the post.
MachoGang had been here.
Locking the thread to prevent any more damage and leaving talisman on the e-ground for lost, he made his way back to the Staff forum to report his findings.
Elsewhere, Tps and Afrobean were meandering around the Garbage Bin. Out of nowhere, Tps stiffened as if straining to hear some distant noise - and fell down, unconscious.
"What the #@$#?" Afro ran over to Tps' body. He found a mystery PM embedded in Tps' neck. On the tip of it, he too saw a 8). Looks like MachoGang wasn't taking any prisoners.
The group later reassembled to discuss the day's findings. Luckily, no one else had e-died.
blah spoke up. "It's really obvious what's going on. We're a bunch of TWG players, right? This means that one of us is really a MachoGangster in disguise!"
"How do you know there's only one?"
"Because two people e-died."
"...What?"
Qreepy pointed a finger at Kefit. "Hey, wait, he's a MachoGangster!"
Kefit proceeded to produce an irrefutable four page essay on how he quit MachoGang a while ago because he disagreed with their practices and how utterly moronic it was to say he was the one responsible just because Kilga was hosting again and he had just come back to TWG after a long hiatus.
"Nothing left to do but to deduce one of us to death, then," Guido said.
---
Tasselfoot
mead1
Afrobean
mattc16
QreepyBORIS
Omeganitros
blahblah18
nickadeemus
Kefit
lightdarkness
GuidoHunter
Neonatrias
It is now Day 1, and talisman and Tps are dead. You have until Saturday at 4 PM to vote. Note that this time may change depending on my schedule - I honestly don't know where I'll be this Saturday. I may be working. Whatever. Anyway, good luck finding your wolf.
talisman
12-14-2005, 07:21 PM
lol I am le dead
f u #machogang
Tasselfoot
12-14-2005, 07:39 PM
This is SCARY... I just checked the thread... this convo was going on as I checked:
[21:19] TasselFoot: ps - please don't kill me if you're the wolf in twg
[21:21] tps7910: I'm not.
[21:21] tps7910: I wanted to be so bad.
[21:22] tps7910: I'm going to get lynched day 3.
[21:22] tps7910: Or die day 3
[21:22] tps7910: I haven't lived past that day since I was a wolf in 19, and before that, since 9
[21:22] TasselFoot: if you were the wolf, you'd be dead day 1, cause some crazy ass pm would get sent out
[21:22] tps7910: No.
[21:22] tps7910: Come on.
[21:22] tps7910: I played well last game.
[21:22] tps7910: Nothing dumb,
[21:22] tps7910: Minus coming out to you.
[21:22] tps7910: Which I was confindent in.
[21:23] TasselFoot: if i was the wolf this game, i'd do something crazy, to try and frame you
[21:23] tps7910: would look to obvious.
[21:23] tps7910: too8
[21:23] TasselFoot: maybe
[21:24] TasselFoot: oh shit
[21:24] TasselFoot: is it up?
[21:24] TasselFoot: oh fuck
[21:24] TasselFoot: you're dead
[21:24] TasselFoot: you and talisman
Tasselfoot
12-14-2005, 07:45 PM
and also... i figured myself and ld would die. Then nick night 2... then there would be no one left to report to the staff forum.
lol.
nickadeemus
12-14-2005, 07:57 PM
Expect something big from me research wise by either very late tonight or tomorrow afternoon (real time).
Tps222
12-14-2005, 07:57 PM
Eh, oh well. 2nd time I was wolfed in Manhunt, 1st on night 1. What an honor.
FFR, that was a hint for Talisman and I to be Staff-ified.
lightdarkness
12-14-2005, 07:59 PM
Tass
WTF is up with that convo?
mead1
12-14-2005, 07:59 PM
Glad this finally opened.
As regards to the kill, I think the lone wolf is probably someone who has participated in quite a few TWGs. While he does tend to get himself lynched, he has good ideas and has a gigantic amount of experience.
Please, don't everyone go "mead1 cuz he kill analyzed". I'm just trying to start some discussion.
Afrobean
12-14-2005, 08:16 PM
LD.
Dude.
I wanted to vote Tass.
Oh WELL I WILL ANYWAY LOL.
TASS
Reasoning: If I were host of this game, I'd make Tass the wolf. Also, very few people realize how good a player Tps is... even less people would bother wolfing him. Tass is amongst this grouping. And before you say anything about a frame job: killing Tps in order to frame anyone would be just plain stupid for a wolf to do, meaning that Tps was killed purposefully because of his skill in the game.
Oh and one more thing: that convo reminds me of a few games back where Tps posted a fake convo with someone from pregame that looked really sketchy. Tps was a wolf that game.
Afrobean
12-14-2005, 08:18 PM
Excuse me. The convo that Tps posted was not fake at all. It just looked really sketchy.
It was the game with tps, mead, hans, and I as wolves. Hans was seer'd or something, then Tps fucked up bad, then mead and I got lynched for no real reason. It's the game where I flipped out in post game.
Tasselfoot
12-14-2005, 08:43 PM
Or, you know... its the actual conversation I had with TPS right before and during me checking the thread.
Also:
crevelkid: lets talk a lil twg
TasselFoot: so why'd you ask me about the last wolf?
crevelkid: mainly out of curiosity, other because of laziness
crevelkid: i checked right after
crevelkid: and read through the whole game
TasselFoot: like my story?
crevelkid: lol i didn't read the story
TasselFoot: ass
TasselFoot: my story kicked ass. read it.
crevelkid: some time
crevelkid: just wanted the content and reactions
crevelkid: why would the wolf kill tps, i wonder
crevelkid: either they don't know any better that tps would make an easy suspect, or they want us to think they don't know any better, or they feel somewhat threatened by him
TasselFoot: but why kill talisman. EVERYONE expects talisman to die... so you leave him alive to garner suspicion at being alive.
TasselFoot: unless you feel that talisman alive for 1 or 2 days outweighs the suspicion he garners
crevelkid: it would be pretty sneaky if guido was the wolf again
TasselFoot: then we'd find out pretty fast... he's proven to be a TERRIBLE wolf.
TasselFoot: in my manhunt, in the mason game...
crevelkid: yeah
TasselFoot: he goes uber inactive and garners suspicion in his 1 post a day.
crevelkid: never played with kefit, though I hear he's a pretty intelligible one
crevelkid: and a good person to keep alive
TasselFoot: kefit is smart, people generally don't listen to him, and he's usually fairly inactive and not-so-willing to chat on AIM.
TasselFoot: kefit is responsible for 2/3 of my guards.
crevelkid: for some reason i'm thinking omega right now
crevelkid: for no reason at all
crevelkid: just i can see him making the kills
TasselFoot: no clue.
TasselFoot: kefit coming back and the tps kill worries me, but then the talisman kills makes me think it isn't kefit.
TasselFoot: talisman wasn't Mr. Respected when kefit played.
TasselFoot: kefit last played in twg17, which was.... the summer.
TasselFoot: and it was only talisman's 5th game.
crevelkid: you've been a wolf 6 times?
crevelkid: or do you remember
TasselFoot: 6 or 7
crevelkid: ive got
TasselFoot: 6
crevelkid: I, IV, XII, XX, XXII, XXIII
TasselFoot: yea
crevelkid: ok
crevelkid: does your statistics thing show when people have been wolves or not?
TasselFoot: yes
TasselFoot: of course
crevelkid: I think I have everyone covered, but can I see it to double check?
crevelkid: like the file
TasselFoot: no. super secret. olol.
TasselFoot: did you look at the statistics thread?
crevelkid: yeahh
TasselFoot: its updated except for last game.
crevelkid: k
fhqwhgads703: Yo
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TasselFoot: hm
fhqwhgads703: So, what are your thoughts on TWG?
TasselFoot: why the fuck would anyone kill tps night 1
TasselFoot: talisman is the obvious kill, and him NOT dying night 1 would have been more suspicious.
TasselFoot: its 2 terrible wolf kills, IMO.
fhqwhgads703: That was my first reaction, but you made such a big deal about what a great TWG player TPS was in one postgame or another
TasselFoot: i still would never wolf him.
TasselFoot: ever.
TasselFoot: he ALWAYS finds a way to get himself lynched.
TasselFoot: wolf or human
fhqwhgads703: Heh
TasselFoot: besides, i talk to TPS more than anyone else in TWG... and I can fool him extremely easily.
fhqwhgads703: kthx
*** "fhqwhgads703" signed off at Wed Dec 14 21:55:40 2005.
also, wtf... so, just because I'm the 1st person to post, I got 2 people to vote me? Real smart asshats. Remember, there are only 12 of us, and ONLY ONE WOLF... don't forget everything I told you guys back in TWG9. BE ACTIVE. Manhunt is skewed in favor of the wolf, so you MUST BE ACTIVE. Heaven forbid I try and start off with some acivity. I also told you guys that posting conversations was an excellent way of adding to activity.
PS - Kilga does not like me. Everyone knows that. So, should Kilga have flipped his coin to the side where he did NOT randomly pick, he almost certainly would not have picked me. LD, you're being stupid... and Afro, fuck off. I seriously am fucking sick of your inane horseshit. This is SIX games in a row where you have done NOTHING BUT VOTE ME. Literally, six straight games, the only thing you've done is vote me. A god damn monkey could be more productive and helpful than you. Quit it.
Afrobean
12-14-2005, 08:57 PM
Or, you know... its the actual conversation I had with TPS right before and during me checking the thread.
Well, Tps's convo that he posted games ago was real too. Having a real convo doesn't make it any more human though, because *gasp* THE WOLF'S JOB IS TO LIE DUH
(Also note where I retracted my "fake" comment in the next post. All I was saying was that a wolf would easily PURPOSEFULLY post a sketchy convo because in a stupid person's mind, a wolf would never do that. Logically, the average person would go "oh tass posted a convo that looks really sketchy, he'd be more careful he was the wolf" when in reality, the wolf will do exactly what you don't expect him to. He's thinking "if I look like a dumb wolf, then people will think I'm a stupid human since wolves are more careful"...That all came out really weird and I don't feel like checking over it, so hopefully that made sense)
And Tass a few things real quick that I already expressed to you over AIM:
it's called joking around. My vote very easily probably will end up on someone else at the end of day.
I do it because I know no one else will. Well... that doesn't apply so much this game since LD did it, but oh well. That explains every game before this one.
Relax. It's just a game. A single vote won't matter. Hell, even getting lynched you can still win, unless, of course, you're the wolf.
Tasselfoot
12-14-2005, 09:08 PM
wait... you guys think the convo i had with TPS looks sketchy? weird. I read the convo a few times before I posted it, and all I got out of it was, "wow... this looks good for proving my humanity."
And Afro... its not funny. and, why would nobody do it? People have voted me many times in many games. Generally they have reasoning behind it though, not just personal hatred, annoyance, or whatever the hell your fixation for me is. And, you've said before the whole "my early vote on you will likely change to someone else," and then amanzingly, it never changed.
Afrobean
12-14-2005, 09:17 PM
wait... you guys think the convo i had with TPS looks sketchy? weird. I read the convo a few times before I posted it, and all I got out of it was, "wow... this looks good for proving my humanity."
You're thinking a few levels behind everyone else if you think that convo proves humanity. And, quick fun fact: who wants to go out of their way to prove humanity? The reds do, that's who.
And Afro... its not funny. and, why would nobody do it? People have voted me many times in many games. Generally they have reasoning behind it though, not just personal hatred, annoyance, or whatever the hell your fixation for me is.
That's exactly what I mean. This is the first game where someone besides me has put the pressure on you for something VERY SMALL. And, unless I'm mistaken, if most wolves do something stupid to get caught, it's something little. I'm just making sure you don't slip through the cracks.
Side note: no personal hatred, no annoyance. I do it, because if I didn't, you'd have an easy time as a wolf. I do it to challenge you.
you've said before the whole "my early vote on you will likely change to someone else," and then amanzingly, it never changed.
If my vote doesn't move off of you, then you haven't done enough to prove yourself to me, or I'm completely satisfied with who's going to be lynched and I don't feel like bandwagoning them.
And lemme tell you, your response to this pressure don't look too good.
QreepyBORIS
12-14-2005, 09:23 PM
Afro, in defense of Tass, he never seems to go very far out of his way to do anything. He's a smooth operator. Most of the time, people can't tell he's a wolf, so I don't think he'd make it what you consider to be glaringly obvious on the veryfirst post.
Also, I think you just want to vote Tass too much. :P
Neonatrias
12-14-2005, 09:41 PM
[21:24] TasselFoot: oh (#$%
[21:24] TasselFoot: is it up?
[21:24] TasselFoot: oh $*%#
[21:24] TasselFoot: you're dead
[21:24] TasselFoot: you and talisman
Maybe I just haven't played enough TWG with Tass, but personally, this part looks a little too forced to me.
Tasselfoot
12-15-2005, 12:59 AM
Neon... that was me re-loading the main page, seeing Talisman had a post, realizing that likely that meant the game was updated. Then me clicking on it and reading the thread and being upset that TPS and Talisman were dead.
And, perhaps you're right Afro. Maybe I am thinking a few levels below what you are. Cause I'm looking at the obvious, which... I don't know... seems OBVIOUS to me.
mead1
12-15-2005, 07:15 AM
Just off of first impressions, my suspicions lie on Neo. I'd like him to explain what he meant by "a little too forced", because I really can't see anything wrong with that section. He also completely ignored everything else in the thread.
Afro, shut up about Tass already. You don't like him, we get it. Please don't continue to let that cloud your judgement TWG-wise. Seriously, all this Tass vs. Afro stuff is cluttering up the thread and doesn't help anyone. What you need to realize is that when human, Tass is a great player, and in this game, based on statistics alone, the odds are thoroughly against him being a wolf. I'm not saying he's definately a human, we can't say that about anyone. All I'm saying is that you all should lay off him until you actually have something on him.
LD, wtf. Just wtf. If you're going to do your normal idiotic day 1 random voting, go ahead, But making a semi-serious vote based on little to no evidence withing the first hour of TWG is far more useless.
Tasselfoot
12-15-2005, 07:57 AM
also... (this is not where the convo started. I cut off the 1st 4 or 5 lines):
afrobean16: and I'm just joking for now
TasselFoot: you should know better than joking around with votes in TWG, especially with me. for the past 3-4 games, you doing that day 1 makes me want to get a huge support group together and get you lynched. that is how annoying it is.
afrobean16: haha
afrobean16: but if you are the wolf
afrobean16: then what I'm doing is noble
TasselFoot: ok. 8.25% chance.
TasselFoot: awesome odds.
afrobean16: well
afrobean16: it's not really random
TasselFoot: no. its intentional. i could have not posted at all, and you'd have voted me for not posting.
afrobean16: no
afrobean16: I'd have voted you for every reason but the convo one
TasselFoot: that makes no sense
afrobean16: sure it does
afrobean16: attacking you with minimal reasoning makes lots of sense
afrobean16: since no one else will do it
TasselFoot: still not seeing it.
TasselFoot: all i see it doing is pissing me off and making me pissed at you
TasselFoot: it also distracts me from focusing on more important things than you
afrobean16: like... deciding who to kill next/
TasselFoot: like trying to figure out who the wolf is
afrobean16: look in the mirror lol
TasselFoot: stop being an immature little kid for about 3 seconds, please.
does any part of that seem to contradict a bit with his statements here in the thread? In addition, the admittance of voting for stupid reasoning, and the fact that he says he'd vote me for every reason but the convo w/ TPS, yet he voted for me because of the convo w/ TPS. Contradiction.
I'd appreciate it, as mead said, if every day 1 did not solely focus on Afro vs Tass, because (again, as mead said) it is extremely distracting, ESPECIALLY in a game like this. We are trying to find 1 person people. And not everyone has commented yet. I would have liked Kilga to have promoted activity more, like I did in twg9... our wolf here could merely say practically nothing for the 1st 2 days, and coast.
Afrobean
12-15-2005, 08:19 AM
You guys are funny.
If Tass is the wolf, you're giving him a free ride. Do you realize that?
It's like "OH TASS IS SO HELPFUL AS HUMAN" (we can easily win without him, by the way) and "WE CAN"T KILL HIM EVER UNLESS HE SAYS 'i am wolf lol'" You guys need to get your head out of your asses and realize that Tass is no better at this game than most of you. He is not going to singlehandedly win the game for us. Him being lynched in the way that EVERYONE ELSE IS (minimal evidence, or none at all) wouldn't hurt us. Making higher tier players automatically immune unless they do something stupid makes the game so easy for them as wolves.
Also: Tass's convos he's posted so far seem very off (with the exception of the one with me... doesn't seem indicitive of role... by the way, the lines he left out at the beginning were him yelling obscenities at me in largest size font possible). Posting convos like that is colinear to pulling a eod from jTWG and saying "i'm human." It's totally useless to your humanity since wolves act human (and often, more human than real humans).
Afrobean
12-15-2005, 08:24 AM
Oh, and by the way:
does any part of that seem to contradict a bit with his statements here in the thread? In addition, the admittance of voting for stupid reasoning, and the fact that he says he'd vote me for every reason but the convo w/ TPS, yet he voted for me because of the convo w/ TPS. Contradiction.
I listed three reasons for voting you (tps convo, your ideal position as a wolf this game, the fact that few people recognize Tps as a good player), if I recall correctly. The Tps convo was one of them. One less than three is two. Two reasons seems like a more well justified vote than if I'd posted "WTF is up with that convo?"
mead1
12-15-2005, 08:40 AM
You guys are funny.
If Tass is the wolf, you're giving him a free ride. Do you realize that?
It's like "OH TASS IS SO HELPFUL AS HUMAN" (we can easily win without him, by the way) and "WE CAN"T KILL HIM EVER UNLESS HE SAYS 'i am wolf lol'" You guys need to get your head out of your asses and realize that Tass is no better at this game than most of you. He is not going to singlehandedly win the game for us. Him being lynched in the way that EVERYONE ELSE IS (minimal evidence, or none at all) wouldn't hurt us. Making higher tier players automatically immune unless they do something stupid makes the game so easy for them as wolves.
You're missing the point. If you were doing the same thing to me, or nick, or any other player, people would still be up in your face. At this point it seems like less of a rational vote and more of a personal vendetta. No one is saying Tass is definately human, but no one is going to listen to you say "tass is a wp;f cuz I said so"
The reasoning you list in your last post is complete bullshit. You list "The TPS convo", but you don't say anything about why it is condemning evidence as to why he's a wolf. Now, him being an ideal candidate as a wolf isn't valid reasoning either. There's only a 50% chance kilga picked the wolf by hand, and far less that he actually picked Tass. There is exactley the same factual probability that you are thew wolf. Recognizing TPS as a good player is the closest you came to a valid point, but the problem being that the discussion of his being good was in a public thread. One that anyone in the TWG usergroup could have viewed. Anyone who keeps up with TWG with fair regularity has heard Tass' praises for him. It was a good wolf kill from where I'm sitting, Killing a good player, and putting suspicion on Tass.
QreepyBORIS
12-15-2005, 08:43 AM
Dude, no-one's letting anyone else have a free ride. Tass, whether he is a wolf or not, will live another little while at the least. But then if he ever does anything else out of the ordinary, what would make you think that he would remain unaccused? You're goofy.
Also, the whole "joke voting" thing is a little bit stupid. No, make that very stupid. I can't even imagine what you were thinking. Maybe I did not read it thoroughly enough (after all, I am in comp sci right now [pass by reference woo-hoo]), but I think that you're being irrational. It would be tempting to place a vote on you, even considering how early in the day it is.
Neonatrias
12-15-2005, 08:44 AM
Just off of first impressions, my suspicions lie on Neo. I'd like him to explain what he meant by "a little too forced", because I really can't see anything wrong with that section. He also completely ignored everything else in the thread.
I haven't ignored anything; I'm still falling into the groove of this game again. I don't know how Tass acts normally, but there was something about the string of expletives towards the end of that conversation that seemed to cause a complete 180 of his attitude.
It's just a hunch, I'm not going to start whipping votes around without more solid ideas.
Afrobean
12-15-2005, 08:56 AM
Ok, this is more like it.
Thing about Tps is: if he wasn't wolfed, he would certainly be lynched. He never survives. Wolfing Tps rather than allowing him to be lynched would be a terrible idea simply to attempt to frame someone. And yes, Tass did praise Tps in the public forum, but even with Tass's praise of him, I doubt that would be enough to sway everyone else who thinks Tps is a retard who can't play the game for shit.
Possibilities for how Tps was wolfed:
Tass/someone else knew how good of a player Tps is. The list of people who think Tps is worth lwolfing is relatively low. People on that list: Tass, myself, probably Talisman, I dunno maybe someone else.
frame job by someone who doesn't think Tps is worth wolfing. Highly unlikely, since he would almost definitely be lynched.
I suppose maybe I'm giving the wolf more credit than he deserves though. Maybe he isn't very familiar with the current players, and simply looked back at last game and noticed that Tps had been wolfed and that Tps has contributed greatly to the victory last game. I think the only person who fits under this is Kefit (who would also make sense to me if the wolf was handchosen, given Kilga and Kefit's friendship or whatever).
And yes, there is just about as much evidence against me as against Tass. Difference is: Tass is given a free pass for minor things. People would jump down my throat for little shit (like that conversation that Tass posted... If I'd done something comperable to that, I'd definitely be lynched that day).
PS my joking with Tass was intentional. I wanted to get him riled up. He's more liable to make mistakes if he's mad. And honestly, his being so mad about having two votes on him seems more likely that he's red. In this game, the wolf loses if he dies, but if a human dies, they can still win.
lightdarkness
12-15-2005, 10:07 AM
The reason I called Tass out on that is because it looks TOO planned. If Tass were our wolf, he'd know he was killing TPS and it would be very convient to have that convo.
Besides, I have to attack Tass, he's the #1 most likely wolf.
Omeganitros
12-15-2005, 10:55 AM
Woah, ld, ld. First off, too planned? I didn't get and sense of that. I thought he was just posting an interesting coincidence. (Yeah, I like to take things at face value.) It's possible he faked it, but why? Why would he go through the trouble of making himself look human on the first post of the game?
Second, why is Tass the #1 most likely wolf? I'd REALLY like to know why.
I vote you because I think you're being a jerk.
Afrobean: Tass get a free ticket ride because he's useful. If you want him dead, fine, but dude, not on Day 1. It's Day 1, for chrissakes.
Neonatrias: You said it yourself, you don't really know how Tass acts normally. Why don't you have a convo with him on AIM and find out?
Omeganitros
12-15-2005, 10:57 AM
P.S. Where's blahblah18?
Tasselfoot
12-15-2005, 11:20 AM
Afro, I get riled up when I get votes in any game... 1 vote, 2 votes, doesn't matter. As a wolf or a human. Look at the past 5 games where you attacked me and how I reacted. Each game is pretty much the same. Last game I pretty much ignored it since I knew Talisman wasn't going to get me lynched, so I didn't care.
LD... as I said, the convo with TPS was purely coincidental. Neon... the profanity was, as I already explained, first joy at the topic being opened and then second at the irony of TPS being wolfed.
I have said before TPS is a very skilled TWGer, and I think he is. At the same time, I think that none of you give him any credit and always lynch him. As I said in one of the convos I posted above, I would never wolf TPS, especially night 1, because he is going to do something to get himself wolfed, guarenteed. Plus, I can easily fool him in AIM convos (<3 TPS), so that wouldn't be something to worry about either.
Wait... why am I the most likely wolf LD? There were 14 players, I believe my odds were somewhere around 7%, just like everyone else's. And, AS I SAID ABOVE (why do I feel like I'm repeating myself here?), Kilga and I do not exactly get along on alot of things... and as such, even if Kilga HAD handpicked the wolf, it almost certainly wouldn't be me for that reason. And, I, nor anyone else, have any idea HOW Kilga picked the wolf, therefore we have to assume it was random and strategize accordingly.
What IS good about Afro always attacking me is that I haven't been wolfed early in any of the recent games because of the suspicion. So I'll thank him for that. What I don't like is that it is distracting. And the fact that it seriously has become a head-first personal vendetta, pulling complete nonsense reasoning out his ass EVERY game. As I said in our convo, I wouldn't have been surprised if he voted me for not posting, should I have not posted. Frankly, Afro's skewed logic and thought processes these past few games have been more detrimental than those people who are inactive, IMO... and should he continue with this logic-with-blinders-on pattern, he will do nothing to be helpful this entire game.
PS - I never get a free ride... I just don't fuck up and I'm smart. I'm helpful. I'M BETTER THAN YOU AT THIS GAME.
PPS - This will probably only piss Afro off even more... which makes me smile.
Kefit
12-15-2005, 12:27 PM
Oh hey, it's the wolf game!
Man, it's been too long.
Anyway, I've got a couple of suspicions now, but those are based more on intuition than anything else, so I will wait for something more substantial to pop up before I make any claims.
However, there is one thing I would like to point out. Afro is pushing for a Tass vote, which to me indicates that he is likely not the wolf. If Afro wanted Tass dead, then all Afro has to do is kill him at night. Simple as that. There is no guardian or anything else that presents a risk to this course of action. If Afro were the wolf, I can't see anything he stands to gain from pushing for a Tass lynch now, and possibly getting an inquisition on his ass.
And I agree with Tass in that I don't think we really have anything to gain by trying to figure out who Kilga would pick as a wolf. At best we would just be wasting our time.
blahblah18
12-15-2005, 01:03 PM
i've been here... reading lurking watching.... wolf narrows down our choices by 2 each night... there are some people I already know to be human. Tass won't be wolfed since he's always too obvious a choice to be lynched, I wouldn't want him to be in any final 4 or crap like that, so lets lynch him now ;)
Afrobean
12-15-2005, 03:46 PM
Tass, I was seriously laughing out loud before I read your second post script. That was too funny.
This will probably only piss Afro off even more...
I take things lightly. It's just a game.
Also, note: one more time for those who are slow: NO PERSONAL VENDETTA. Tass, I even said in the signup threads that I like you as a person, I just don't like the bragging. I do this to challenge you, since most of the time, no one does unless they have damn good reason.
Also note: you say you're smart- I'm inclined to agree. You say you don't fuck up- this is up for debate... check out all your recent games as a wolf. And: "I'M BETTER THAN YOU AT THIS GAME." I'll assume this was pointed at me... You're a man of statistics, right? Well... jurs (only outlier here), talisman, myself, LD, Kilga, nforcer all have better win records than you do.
blahblah18
12-15-2005, 03:53 PM
lets stay on topic and discuss my incredible post.
Omeganitros
12-15-2005, 04:23 PM
Take your arguments to the kiddie corner on AIM. When you're done, you can post the whole thing here.
Anyways.
Tass won't be wolfed since he's always too obvious a choice to be lynched, I wouldn't want him to be in any final 4 or crap like that, so lets lynch him now
Even with the wink implying this is a joke, I do not understand this statement.
blahblah18
12-15-2005, 04:57 PM
the point is... he's always very hard to exonerate at any point because of the overall air of suspicion aroudn him. There are people I know to be human. If they're in the final group, I can rule them out. It is very hard for one to achieve that with Tass, so it woudl be a bad spot for him to be left alive the whole time. Its the reason the wolf if not tass won't wolf him, so either way he's jsut gonna be alive the whole time no matter what.
Tasselfoot
12-15-2005, 09:39 PM
Guys... whats with the lack of activity? Matt, Qreepy, Guido? Even LD, Neon, Kefit... we need more activity people. Right now the only thing that has happened is Afro accusing me for no reason, and I'd like something more productive out of day 1...
We have 4 shots people. 4. As I said many times in twg9, we MUST be active to have a shot at winning.
Neonatrias
12-15-2005, 10:31 PM
I know that there's going to have to be a lot of activity for this to work. The problem is, what've I got to go on? A hunch, a few conversations, and what seemed like normal killings. Though, even after he explained it, I can't get Blah's second-to-last post outta my mind. Maybe it's just late; I'll check it out tomorrow morning or something. Maybe I'll pick something up then...
GuidoHunter
12-15-2005, 11:19 PM
Saturday at four, huh? That'll be when my family does Christmas...
I'm inclined to beleive Afro is a human. All the past several games he's pulled stupid logic out of his ass and voted Tass on the first couple of days. He usually comes back with some sort of "lol i wuz just kiding" comment after someone (usually Tass) hands him his ass on a logic platter, too. His acting the same way this game gives him human points from me, because back when we were wolves together I remember him being somewhat intelligent, so Imma go look back at that game and try to compare.
As for my suspicions right now, I don't particularly like the way LD's been, but it's not vote-worthy quite yet. I've gotta skip on to Waco right now, but I'll have the results of my research and a vote by tomorrow.
By the way, I've been out-of-state, away from the internets. I guarantee much more activity from now on.
--Guido
http://andy.mikee385.com
nickadeemus
12-16-2005, 12:05 AM
Convo I had, sort of explains why no big research thing on time like I mentioned, along with something to look at.
[05:31] Mead1: Ooooh, I just remembered TWG
[05:32] c r e v e lk i d: yea
[05:32] Mead1: I haven't checked it in 12 hours
[05:32] c r e v e lk i d: good time to question you while your logic is messed up
[05:32] Mead1: Or something like that
[05:33] Mead1: Blar, being human sucks
[05:33] Mead1: That's why I didn't want manhunt
[05:34] c r e v e lk i d: it's not so bad
[05:34] Mead1: I know
[05:34] c r e v e lk i d: i'm still sort of in the excited to be in twg stage
[05:34] Mead1: I enjoy TWG, but the whole manhunt idea never appealed to me
[05:34] c r e v e lk i d: was going to make some big researching thing like I said, but A my firefox froze when i had like 20 tabs open of stuff to look at and B) it was taking way longer than expected
[05:35] c r e v e lk i d: so i'll give something half assed because I DID say I would give something
[05:35] Mead1: Hahahahaha
[05:35] Mead1: Oh wait, you're in this game?
[05:35] Mead1: I forgot
[05:35] Mead1: xD
[05:35] c r e v e lk i d: lol
[05:35] c r e v e lk i d: yea
[05:35] Mead1: That's funny
[05:35] c r e v e lk i d: would be a good cover for a wolf
[05:35] c r e v e lk i d: but i believe you for now
[05:35] Mead1: Yeah it would be
[05:36] Mead1: But I'm not that clever
Afrobean
12-16-2005, 07:29 AM
[05:36] Mead1: But I'm not that clever
Not saying anything about your role or anything, but mead, you are that clever.
Neonatrias
12-16-2005, 08:06 AM
Hm. So...Mead was complaining about being human to someone he thought wasn't in the game. That inclines me to believe that he's human. My eyes are landing on LD right now...=/ Just because it looked like he was a little quick with the trigger finger on his vote. I'm still leery to throw a vote up yet.
QreepyBORIS
12-16-2005, 08:17 AM
Sorry about my apparent lack of activity. I have been hella busy this week (two essays, 3 auditive journals in French, one group project, a two-day test, and daily homework), and fitting TWG in is difficult. I am, once again, in computer science class at this juncture. I can't really make a detailed post right now. I think you can count on me posting something with more substance later tonight.
Sorry again. >_<
mattc16
12-16-2005, 10:47 AM
Yeah, I apologise aswell. Having to go to hospital for an MRI scan on my back didn't really help either.
Anyway, blah, how is there people you know to be human, can you explain how?
blahblah18
12-16-2005, 10:50 AM
well there's never knowing, but there's intelligence and seeing the way people post and what not. Hey, I can be full of horseshit, but I dont' think I am
mead1
12-16-2005, 12:50 PM
Ouch, saturday at 4 really bites.
So nick, in that convo you posted, you promised me atleast something half-assed, plz giev.
@Afro: I'll take that as a complement.
And I agree with Tass in that I don't think we really have anything to gain by trying to figure out who Kilga would pick as a wolf. At best we would just be wasting our time.
This statement really bugs me. Mainly because if Kilga did handpick the wolf, I think it would be kefit. He's intelligent, just returning from a long absence, and best frends fur lyfe with kilga. The scenario I picture in my mind is him getting picked and then trying to disuade us from looking at the possibility of his being picked.
Yes, I know there's only a 50% chance kilga even picked the wolf, even less that he picked kefit as opposed to anyone else, but it's the best I've got right now.
Kefit
12-16-2005, 01:34 PM
You know, if Kilga was picking, he would realize that everyone would immediately assume that he would be far more likely to pick me than anyone else. Regardless of any ability I would have to talk my way out of such accusations, such a thing still poses a tangible risk to Kilga's main goal with this game (ie, keeping it going as long as possible).
Oh, and I really doubt that LD is the wolf. In fact, I believe that his carefree manner of posting only serves to discount his wolfishness. The wolf in this game is alone, and under a lot of pressure, so imagine that whoever it is will be using extra effort to act as normal as possible.
And I figure I may as well throw out the suspicion that I referenced in my last post - Omeganitros. I have no real reason to back this. It is just kind of a gut feeling. (on a side note, I did mention suspisions (plural) in that post, but that was before I realized that Hans isn't playing this game >_>).
Tasselfoot
12-16-2005, 01:37 PM
Blah... be fair. you're ALWAYS full of shit.
Omeganitros
12-16-2005, 04:48 PM
How I feel about the hand-picked scenario: I guess some people could be more likely picked than others, but it's all about point of view when it comes down to it. None of us are Kilgamayan, and there's probably a reasonable scenario for each of us getting picked by him that could be built. So considering that, I'm pretty certain that worrying over how the wolf was assigned is not very useful (or at least not right now).
And Kefit: .......Okay...
Anyways, I hope I can find time tonight and tommorrow to be on AIM, so...Gimmie an IM if you wanna do some TWG talk, or you're just bored.
Tasselfoot
12-16-2005, 08:59 PM
I'm gonna say that 4pm on a saturday is not a very good time for most people
could we get it extended to like 8 or 10pm?
Kilgamayan
12-16-2005, 09:53 PM
8 it is then.
nickadeemus
12-17-2005, 12:18 AM
All the links after each person's name are links to the game in which they were a wolf. I was going to make a big word file with each of their posts, but that turned out to be way too big of a task, and I doubt people would read it. I did it this way so if you have any suspicions of anyone, you can easily check up on how they played as a wolf in previous games. I know this will also be helpful to the wolf, because they can see how not to act, but that's where everyone's brilliant analyzing skills come in to play, and we can try to tell if someone isn't being himself.
Maybe later I'll get a few jTWG's, but I'm sick of links for tonight.
Tasselfoot: I (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=18884), IV (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=20164), XII (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=25631), XX (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=35088), XXII (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=37095), XXIII (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=37832)
mead1: XII (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=25631), XXI (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=36367)
Afrobean: VII (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=21544), XVIII (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=32607), XXI (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=36367)
mattc16: Never posted as a wolf in TWG
QreepyBORIS: II (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=19166), XXIV (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=39055)
Omeganitros: XIX (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=33814)
blahblah18: XIV (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=27858), XVI (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=29474), XXIV (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=39055)
nickadeemus: XXIII (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=37832)
Kefit: VIII (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=22536)
lightdarkness: VIII (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=22536), XI (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=24826), XVI (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=29474), XVII (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=29474), XXII (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=37095)
GuidoHunter: V (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=20712), IX (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=22902), XIV (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=27858), XVIII (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=32607), XXIII (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=37832)
Neonatrias: Never posted as a wolf in TWG
Omeganitros
12-17-2005, 01:40 AM
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8751/twg6mp.png
Afrobean
12-17-2005, 08:45 AM
Ok, well, this is slow as hell.
I'll throw my vote over to Kefit. Tps and Talisman as day 1 deaths make a lot of sense given the scenario I described earlier, and we can all agree that if Kilga chose the wolf, there's a good chance he'd pick his little buddy.
Also, an idea I don't think anyone has brought up: Perhaps Kilga only told us that it might be random to try to ensure that we wouldn't try to get into his head, when in reality, he knew who he'd pick as the wolf as soon as he signed up to host. I know I'd do that.
PS yea, previous wolf behavior is kind of irrelevent, especially when a lot of those were many games ago. I know that just the difference between my first time and second time as a wolf my behavior changed so drastically that I managed to make it through the game without being found out by anyone but Tps. Surely others will have improved their game in time as well.
GuidoHunter
12-17-2005, 08:55 AM
Apparently Afro's forgotten that Kilga and Kefit don't really talk all that much. At least, that's what they said after the TWG where we lynched Kilga Day 1 after Kefit got wolfed Night 1 for the reason that they're "good buddies".
The "whom did Kilga pick if he picked" idea isn't worth discussing, really. There are good arguments for everyone, and the first Manhunt showed that.
Honestly, with the way he's been acting this game compared to how he's acted in the past several games as a wolf and as a human, I'm inclined to believe that Afro isn't our wolf.
Since I won't be around much tonight due to Christmas (though you can still IM me and I'll check periodically), I'm going to place a vote on Neonatrias. This isn't just a safety vote, either, as I'm quite suspicious of him after his post(s?). There isn't a lot to go on, so it's more of an instinct vote, but that's my vote.
--Guido
http://andy.mikee385.com
Neonatrias
12-17-2005, 10:07 AM
I'm putting a vote on blah for now. Something with his posts still just doesn't sit right with me. Nothing solid behind it, but I'm not sure whether or not I'll be able to get on later today or not.
Kefit
12-17-2005, 10:45 AM
Gah, soon I will be work work working all day.
My vote goes to neonatrias. The reasons he has used thus far to attack people seem fairly weak to me, as if he was foraging around in an effort to construct said reasons from nothing.
QreepyBORIS
12-17-2005, 10:55 AM
I do not like the way that neonatrias is posting too well, myself. If he is the wolf, then he has little experience in playing as one. The way he's posting so far is congruous with this. All of his posts seem a little contrived to me. That's just my thoughts.
mattc16
12-17-2005, 10:58 AM
My vote goes to blah. Some of his posts made the 'WTF?' alarm go off in my head, and I didn't like the way he answered my question about how he knows there are people who are human.
mead1
12-17-2005, 11:09 AM
I'm going to wait a little while before voting at this point. Between Blah, neon, and kefit, blah seems most suspicious, but I really don't have anything on any of the three of them. I'm going to review the thread and see what I come up with.
Afrobean
12-17-2005, 11:14 AM
I don't know what you guys see in blah. He seems totally human to me.
Omeganitros
12-17-2005, 02:58 PM
I don't know what you guys see in blah. He seems totally human to me.
I think it's that he answered my question of "Where is he?" with "I was here the whole time, just watching everyone and being quiet."
mead1
12-17-2005, 03:12 PM
the point is... he's always very hard to exonerate at any point because of the overall air of suspicion aroudn him. There are people I know to be human. If they're in the final group, I can rule them out. It is very hard for one to achieve that with Tass, so it woudl be a bad spot for him to be left alive the whole time. Its the reason the wolf if not tass won't wolf him, so either way he's jsut gonna be alive the whole time no matter what.
Ok, my vote goes to blah for this post here. He says we should lynch Tass on no evidence simply so he can eliminate him as a possible wolf later. This is bullshit. Anyone else we eliminate will also eliminate one person as a possible wolf, so why would we sacrifice one of the better players? We only get 4 chances in Manhunt, we can't waste them.
Afrobean
12-17-2005, 03:16 PM
I don't know what you guys see in blah. He seems totally human to me.
I think it's that he answered my question of "Where is he?" with "I was here the whole time, just watching everyone and being quiet."
I may be mistaken, but blah is always like that, isn't he? At least, in recent games anyway, and even as human.
PS while I was typing this, mead posted...
Mead, I think you missed blah's point entirely. He's saying that Tass is definitely not going to be wolfed, so we might as well lynch him (and I'm pretty sure he was joking, by the way). Funny that blah saying this would draw attention to him, but me saying something similar would make me seen as human. You people are insane.
Tasselfoot
12-17-2005, 05:34 PM
I gotta go with Neon
I spoke with blah right after he wrote the post that all of you are commenting on, and from what he told me and what was obvious from the ridiculousness of the post itself, was that he was testing for reactions...
I can see where everyone is coming from in terms of Neon, so I'm content with my vote there. Also, I'm protecting Blah... for the time being.
blahblah18
12-17-2005, 05:41 PM
aww how cute... bffaeaeae me and tass.
4 srs... we get 4 "chances" but all things shoudl be setup to make the last 2 really good ones, so that's where its at, i'll prob be wolfed next which is sad for you guys, but i'm making a good point and that's what needed to be discussed. If the day's gonna end in 30 mins, I'll vote qreepy my previous wolf buddy looks kinda sketchtastic
nickadeemus
12-17-2005, 06:09 PM
Qreepy hasn't been THAT inactive, yet he apologizes for inactivity.
Sorry about my apparent lack of activity. I have been hella busy this week (two essays, 3 auditive journals in French, one group project, a two-day test, and daily homework), and fitting TWG in is difficult. I am, once again, in computer science class at this juncture. I can't really make a detailed post right now. I think you can count on me posting something with more substance later tonight.
Sorry again. >_<
Using my awesome post of previous games in which Qreepy was a wolf, I found this:
Sorry that I can't make this post as coherent or long or anything as usual, but I've been damn busy lately and I'm not doing so well with everything. Bare with me.
GAH I swear I saw something else, will keep looking. Anyway, Qreepy because time is almost up.
Kilgamayan
12-17-2005, 06:16 PM
</voting>
I'll tally up votes and write a story right now.
Kilgamayan
12-17-2005, 06:35 PM
Tass: 1 (LD)
LD: 1 (Omega)
Kefit: 1 (Afro)
Neo: 4 (Guido, Kefit, Qreepy, Tass)
blah: 3 (Neo, matt, mead)
Qreepy: 2 (blah, nick)
---
Afro spoke up. "Hey, I think Kefit did it!"
Kefit printed out 300 copies of his essay and dropped then on Afro's back, breaking it. "No, it's obviously Neonatrias."
Tass agreed. Everyone else, being a TWG pack and thus a bunch of dumbass bandwagoners when two intelligent people agree, went with it. Aside from blah. You rebel you.
Obviously, Neo didn't like the prospect of death by deduction. "Come on, guys, don't e-kill me. I didn't do it! I would be a lot more emphatic if I weren't some generic guy that no one has ever really seen before outside of TWG but you have to take my word for it!"
But it was too late. LD tapped six colorless mana and swung.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y204/Kilgamayan/BanHammer.jpg
And that was that.
Satisfied with a job well done, everyone went to e-sleep, because, after all, an e-kill marks the end of an e-night.
Is this e-ritating yet?
---
It is now Night 2. Oops, you fucked up.
Tasselfoot
mead1
Afrobean
mattc16
QreepyBORIS
Omeganitros
blahblah18
nickadeemus
Kefit
lightdarkness
GuidoHunter
Here's your target list, wolf. Make your choices.
Kilgamayan
12-18-2005, 10:45 AM
Day 2
A new day dawned on the Garbage Bin. AFROOOOOOOOOOOOOO was enjoying the peaceful day when Arch0wl suddenly showed up.
"Afrobean, you cad. Stop being so self-righteous."
Afro though to himself that he was so totally going to sig that when Arch continued.
"Oh, by the way, this is for you. Some guy wanted me to give it to you so he gave me a bunch of Dream Theater songs to deliver it."
Arch dropped a giant package on Afrobean, crushing and killing him.
As Arch walked away, the package fell open to reveal a giant marble 8).
The crash drew everyone over to see what had happened. What they saw shocked and horrified them.
"I am shocked and horrified by what I see!" Omega said.
Guido noticed the unique shape of the marble. "I have a feeling that we missed our guess when we voted Neo off the island."
"mna i copmmletty arge with yuo," blah said.
"Uh oh, blah's posting drunk again. I wonder what hilarious hijinks will ensue this time?"
Unfortunately, not very many hilarious hijinks ensued, as blah's random drunken staggering made him trip over the giant marble 8). He broke his e-neck on the fall and e-died.
"..."
---
Tasselfoot
mead1
mattc16
QreepyBORIS
Omeganitros
nickadeemus
Kefit
lightdarkness
GuidoHunter
It is now Day 2, and blahblah18 and Afrobean have been killed. 9 of you left. 5 is an insta. You have until Tuesday night at 8 Eastern. Now git ta votin'.
Afrobean
12-18-2005, 11:22 AM
I knew it haha
Good luck people.
PS THANK YOU MR WOLF FOR GIVING ME MY FIRST WOLFING EVER
Kilgamayan
12-18-2005, 09:46 PM
lol activity
Tasselfoot
12-19-2005, 12:11 AM
Expect a big post from me late tomorrow night... I have my last 2 finals tomorrow AND a final paper to write tomorrow AND I have to take a train back to Philly.
Expect me out all day and back around 11, at which point I'll work on a big post with suspicions.
I expect all of you to have made big ass posts as well by the time I get to the thread tomorrow night.
Tasselfoot
12-19-2005, 01:08 PM
GUYS. THIS IS FUCKING PATHETIC. THERE ARE NINE OF US. IF WE DON'T POST FOR 24+ HOURS, WE WILL NOT WIN.
I'm in the middle of writing a paper... I seriously expect some posts from you people by the time I get back to Philly tonight.
lightdarkness
12-19-2005, 01:14 PM
I expect all of you to have made big ass posts as well by the time I get to the thread tomorrow night.
http://lightdarkness42.com/fat_ass.jpg
</big ass post>
Tasselfoot
12-19-2005, 01:25 PM
Way to mock what I'm saying LD... extremely helpful to finding the wolf.
lightdarkness
12-19-2005, 01:26 PM
The wolf is hiding behind her fat ass, if we could get her to lose some weight we could find out who it is!
I got a fricken picture of the wolf and you don't think that's helpful? Psh
mead1
12-19-2005, 01:26 PM
However, there is one thing I would like to point out. Afro is pushing for a Tass vote, which to me indicates that he is likely not the wolf. If Afro wanted Tass dead, then all Afro has to do is kill him at night. Simple as that. There is no guardian or anything else that presents a risk to this course of action. If Afro were the wolf, I can't see anything he stands to gain from pushing for a Tass lynch now, and possibly getting an inquisition on his ass.
I was re-reading this thread, and I realized something. This thing can work both ways. When Afro was taking swings at Tass, Tass never responded with a vote, or even with any suspicion of Afro's humanity. Why? Because if Afro was lynched and the game didn't end, it would look bad for Tass. So if you are a wolf, and have someone mindlessly tirading against you, what do you do? You kill them. Afro dying simply seems to convenient to be mere coincidence. With all of Tass' encouragement for activity, I doubt anyone is doubting his humanity right now. And that's exactly how he planned it. Sure, another wolf could have killed afro to frame him, but Tass is a smart enough player that he might have done the deed so he could claim he was being framed.
mead1
12-19-2005, 01:28 PM
Also, the night one kills, TPS and Talisman are the two people Tass has mentioned he wants in the TWC.
Tasselfoot
12-19-2005, 01:59 PM
Well gee.... heaven forbid anyone EVER try to frame me. Like that has NEVER happened before...
PS - As soon as I saw Afro and Blah were the 2 dead night 2, I knew this would be brought up, and saw it clearly.
Also mead, perhaps the reason I'm actually trying to promote activity is I'm human and want to win.
mead1
12-19-2005, 02:27 PM
I'm not saying no human would promote activity, far from it. But a wolf doing so would look very human. The possibility of someone framing you is just as likely as you orchestrating it to look as though you were framed. You are intelligent Tass, and definately not above pulling something of that type.
Also, I have this log to prove it!
Tasselfoot: Make me the wolf this time and I will give you mansex and make you mod again
bjstrattonIM: k
itz real i swear
mattc16
12-19-2005, 02:30 PM
I love doing these, here we go:
Tasselfoot: Tass seems human to me. He hasn't done anything untoward to rouse my suspicions. Though, he is still alive at this point, and I was expecting him to die early, yet I feel this could be the wolf just trying to keep him alive to arouse suspicion.
mead1: mead hasn't done much, agreeing. Made interesting points on kefit and blah.
QreepyBORIS: Hasn't been active, made a post explaining saying he's busy with other things. If i remember rightly, did the same thing in his last game as a wolf.
Omeganitros: Omega seems human to me, he, like Tass, hasn't done anything suspicious at all. Hard to read.
nickadeemus: Nick's made one or two posts, so it's kinda hard to get a read on him. I haven't talked to him much on AIM, in fact I haven't talked to anyone much on AIM.
Kefit: Something's struck me the wrong way about Kefit's posts. One of my top suspicions at the moment.
lightdarkness: LD is so hard to read, just because his posts haven't had that much content. The one thing that struck me was the fact he said "Tass is the #1 most likely wolf.".
GuidoHunter: Guido has made one post due to christmas. difficult to get any sort of inkling on him
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Can we set up some sort of chat or something? Just to try and get everyone talking and get a bit more activity.
QreepyBORIS
12-19-2005, 02:42 PM
Hey, Matt, I don't do this whenever I am a wolf. I do it whenever I am busy.
And I am busy (homework, orchestra concert). So, excuse me.
mattc16
12-19-2005, 03:07 PM
Y helo thar Qreepy, I never said that, I was just pointing out that you did the same in your last game as a wolf!
Don't take it as an accusation. Hey, I've been busy recently, not been the best time in my life.
Omeganitros
12-19-2005, 03:55 PM
I think it's fair to say we've all been busy.
Mead: You point is fair, but Tass is probably correct; Someone is trying to throw suspicion on him. I'm not sure what to think of you, butI'm leaning more towards human.
lightdarkness: I'm not enjoying your attitude towards the whole game very much. There's nothing wrong with having a little fun in TWG (like putting your post in MS Paint form), but I haven't seen much of anything from you except goofing.
Qreepy: Look, I realize you're probably very busy, but...Well, I take back what I was about to say. You have posted alot, during Day 1. And your behavior, while slightly unreadable, has been human.
Tasselfoot: Maybe I really am taking his humanity for granted. I've been defending him a bit. But on the other hand, I really do feel he's getting jerked around. I dunno.
matt1c: No idea who you are or what you are.
Kefit: I dunno why he's suspicious of me (I guess for being myself), but if he keeps up his Big Post quota, I have no beef with him.
GuidoHunter: THIS guy is creeping me out. My memory ain't very reliable at times, but I seem to remember him being a big fan of the "keep a low amount of posts" technique when he was a wolf. I see him as a really good player, and he's hardly spoken up. Please do so, sir.
nickadeemus: If I didn't feel so badly about Guido, my gut would be on this guy, though he's been perfectly fine and I don't know him that well. Just one of those things.
mead1
12-19-2005, 04:24 PM
Hey matt, you haven't been in enough TWGs to say "mead's being mead." Especially in the game where I'm being both active, and helpful, or atleast relative to my normal activity and helpfulness.
Omega, Guido does act like this as a wolf, but it's how he ALWAYS acts. If no one has any better ideas, he might be a good lynching candidate, but as of now, I still think it's Tass.
Tasselfoot
12-19-2005, 05:41 PM
Mead, actually.... *goes and looks at spreadsheet* Guido has not played much recently.
in TWG18 he intentionally used inactivity to survive and help the wolves win.
in TWG21, he was human. I'll have to check how he acted/posted
in TWG23 with me, he was the worst wolf ever. Totally inactive, did nothing he was supposed to do, nearly proved himself a wolf in the thread, but nobody caught it.
Also, in the last manhunt, Guido was the wolf and did similar to what he is doing here and what he did in 18 and 23. He was very inactive, made 1-2 posts that seemed to contain content and attacked 1 other person to try and get that person lynched instead of himself. I could definately see Guido being the wolf.
I'll keep my other suspicions quiet... would hate for all of us to name the same people as suspicious and all of a sudden find that those are the only people left alive on day 4.
GuidoHunter
12-20-2005, 12:33 AM
I wasn't inactive in Manhunt. At least, I never noticed it and nor did anyone else). I started the inactivity in XVIII and it's carried on since, due to one reason or another, but as I told Tass and wrote in the thread, I don't like it at all. Well, I did in 18, but that's because it worked. Now, I've just had Christmas and friends I haven't seen for a year are around. It's all moving out of my system, though. At least I have something to go on now.
--Guido
http://andy.mikee385.com
mattc16
12-20-2005, 01:34 AM
mead, maybe i haven't played enough, but i've read enough
Tasselfoot
12-20-2005, 08:51 AM
You guys are just posting as to why you aren't posting. That still is not helpful.
Stop making excuses and start making posts.
Omeganitros
12-20-2005, 09:21 AM
It is interesting that all the talkative people are dead. I'd love to post something constructive, but what would I say? I've given my opinions, and I can't do much else at the moment.
Tasselfoot
12-20-2005, 10:38 AM
Qreepy.
Heading to 2 movies then dinner. Will likely be back before 8, but not 100% sure.
mead1
12-20-2005, 12:15 PM
Well, I have to go to work in a bit, and will be home before 7:30, but just incase something unforseen comes up, I'm going to place my vote on Tass for the reasons I previously stated.
mattc16
12-20-2005, 03:39 PM
Ah I hate time zones. Kefit for reasons stated in my bigger post
Kefit
12-20-2005, 05:49 PM
I'm firmly convinced now that the wolf is one of Tass/Mead/Omeganitros.
Why? Because they are pretty much the only active players we have in this game. Busy or not, it really doesn't take long to make a post here. I see more of a widespread lack of interest in the game than anything else (indeed, a problem that has been plaguing TWG since before I stopped playing a while ago). The wolf, on the other hand, has every reason to be interested in this game, as it is his chance to grab glory for himself alone.
That being said, I am going to have to go after Omeganitros. His posts remind me a lot of how I act when I am a wolf - defending as many people as he reasonably possible, and when vote time comes, construing a reason to vote for someone or another.
Granted, Omega isn't me, and thus this could be meaningless. But at the moment I have nothing better to go on.
Tasselfoot
12-20-2005, 06:10 PM
Wow... 2 whole posts before deadline.
Any shot of a voting guide before it ends, in case i want to change my vote?
Tasselfoot
12-20-2005, 06:14 PM
Guido - Omega
Qreepy - Tass
Tass - Mead
Omega - Kefit
Kefit - Matt
And 4 people haven't voted. So we have a 5-way tie at 1 vote. So as to ensure that I don't die... hmm. I could give reasons as to why any of the 4 other people with votes could be the wolf... but I can't vote myself or Qreepy.
That leaves Kefit, Omega, Guido. Guido for his actions being so similar to his past wolf game and his past manhunt game as a wolf.
nickadeemus
12-20-2005, 06:19 PM
Mead if it still counts.
lightdarkness
12-20-2005, 09:05 PM
Tass if it still counts.
Kilgamayan
12-20-2005, 09:46 PM
Sorry, didn't mean to be out this late.
Man now I gotta come up with some funny on the fly >_>
Update in a few minutes.
Kilgamayan
12-20-2005, 09:58 PM
Guido: 2 (Omega, Tass)
Tass: 1 (mead)
Kefit: 1 (matt)
Omega: 1 (Kefit)
Phantoms for Qreepy, nick and LD. Sorry, but 8 PM means 8 PM.
---
"I think Guido did it," Omega said. "He's an a0.com regular but he always seemed detached from the group. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he defected to MachoGang."
"Let's wait and see what he has to say about himself," mead replied.
The group waited to see what Guido had to say about himself.
But no response came.
"...Where is he?"
aperson suddenly appeared out of nowhere, using some unknown form of hax to get himself access to the TWG forum. "Guido's off wondering why stretchy's mouth tastes like my cock."
"Oh."
"Yeah."
"Okay."
aperson left.
"...Well, now what?"
"I dunno. Let's go vote people out of the Garbage Bin or something."
"Okay."
---
Tasselfoot
mead1
mattc16
QreepyBORIS
Omeganitros
nickadeemus
Kefit
lightdarkness
It is now Night 3. Oops, you #@$#ed up again. Only two more chances. Not that you deserve any more with just over half you voting, but whatever.
Wolf, make your kills.
Kilgamayan
12-21-2005, 09:16 PM
My apologies, I was out for a lot longer than I thought I'd be.
---
Day 3
"Voting people out of the Garbage Bin is getting boring," nick said.
Tass yawned. "Getting boring? This was stupid from the start. I don't see what the rest of you see in this."
"Qreepy seems to be enjoying it a bit too much," nick replied.
mead looked up. "Hey, where is Qreepy?"
The group went back over the votes and noticed that, in their lethargy, they failed to notice that Qreepy had been voted out. Upon further inspection, the overwhelming majority of his votes were from random accounts they had never seen before.
All of which had 8) in them.
"What the hash, how did we not notice that?" Kefit said.
"...Did you just say 'hash'?"
"I'm a busy man. I don't have time to say 'What the pound at dollar sign pound'. Besides, it sounds really stupid."
Tass looked around. "Speaking of stupid, where did matt go? We didn't vote him out."
"He's invisible."
"...Oh."
"Hmm, apparently he's inaudible too."
"And intangible, I think."
"Whatever, forget him. Guido obviously wasn't the culprit, so we have to press on."
"Man, and I thought voting people out of the Garbage Bin was boring. Is this thing still on?"
---
Tasselfoot
mead1
Omeganitros
nickadeemus
Kefit
lightdarkness
It is now Day 3, and mattc16 and QreepyBORIS have been killed. Since my normal time period would have you forcing in votes either Christmas Eve night or Christmas Day, I'll give you until Monday at Noon Eastern. 4 votes is a lynch, but bear in mind that LD and nick have phantoms.
QreepyBORIS
12-21-2005, 09:41 PM
The good news is that I am not the wolf.
The bad news is that I, the hypotheical wolf, did not kill myself in the night. And I didn't. I did die, though, for whatever that's worth.
But I'm not the wolf.
lightdarkness
12-21-2005, 09:44 PM
I still think we need to kill tass to be safe.
Tasselfoot
12-21-2005, 10:17 PM
Tasselfoot
mead1
Omeganitros
nickadeemus
Kefit
lightdarkness
ok... 4 people to Insta, and if we're wrong today, there will be 3 tomorrow, which means the 2 humans must vote correctly together on the final wolf.
Frankly, it seems fairly clear that the wolf is a) trying to frame me by keeping me alive and b) did a decent job of it with the 1st 2 nights kills, but has since messed up, or at least been unable to keep it up.
reasoning...
I voted qreepy on day 2, fully expecting the day to end before I got back home. I managed to get back home with 4 minutes to go, quickly read and saw only 3 new posts, and that 5 people were tied with 1 vote. Seeing as how my vote on Qreepy now gave me a 20% shot of him dying and a 20% shot of myself dying, I dropped both. Now, had I been the wolf, I still would have done this. BUT, I wouldn't have then gone and wolfed Qreepy right after. Either that, or I would have tried to rally a vote onto Qreepy before the day ended.
Also, I'd never have wolfed matt. The fact that he is in England is a HUGE factor on his playstyle, and I was thinking strongly he could have been the wolf because of how long the updates were taking and him a) not being online much and b) being online when alot of us aren't because of the timezone differences.
Because of all this... I can't be the wolf, so hopefully I'll not be killed tonight and I'll have a 50/50 shot of picking correctly tomorrow (assuming we don't get it right today, which seems likely considering the levels of activity).
Now, lets look at who is left:
Kefit - normally quiet in TWGs, back to TWG from a 7-8 game absence.
LD - usually quiet the past few games. has also been blue/red in alot of those games and used inactivity to hide it, but was still inactive last game as a green
Nick - normally quiet, although when he does post, his posts are very substance filled. I've quickly gained respect for nick's ability to play TWG despite him only playing in 2. He also is usually one to push for activity from others and make lengthy intelligent posts, which he has not done this game, barring one shorter than planned post on day 1.
mead - again, normally quiet. still quiet this game.
omega - not normally quiet, although has quieted up some this game.
my top suspects: omega and nick, as they are the two acting out of character compared to everyone else.
finally.... should you people lynch me for some reason, or should i be wolfed tonight.... there are only 3 people left on day 4. if a human votes for another human quickly, the game is over. do not forget that. my advice is for the 3 players left to go into an AIM chat and talk HEAVILY with each other and form a group consensus of 2 vs 1, and may they be right. I think only once ever have we had a TWG go down to 3 players before, so its a rare situation, and I'd like to plan for it now, before it is too late. Make sure to NOT vote, as a wrong vote by a human = instant game over (wolf votes that person, insta is 2, gg). So lets repeat: AIM chat between the 3. That way nothing can go unexpectedly wrong.... and if the 2 humans screw up, they did so in the same room, 1 vs the other. It will also force the wolf to have to think quickly and intelligently, with 2 humans looking for every slip up.
Tasselfoot
12-21-2005, 10:34 PM
Oh yea... also, why wolf someone with a phantom?
Anyway, don't forget that on day 4, the 1 phantom won't lead to an insta-wolf win... as 1 wolf vote + phantom is 1.00001 votes, which is not more than 2. Just don't get a 2nd phantom ld or nick. Or I shall kill you both dead.
:)
nickadeemus
12-22-2005, 12:01 AM
Sorry about my phantom. I've been looking over this thread a lot in the last hour or so, and I can't get enough on someone to get a vote, so I'll give what I think makes some people NOT the wolf.
Omega-
So far all his posts seem like he is not faking a concern to finding a wolf. He many not have anything substantial, but he seems genuine. I had a weird Kefit-like suspicion early on, but that has dropped now. Also, Tass is still alive. Omega has been pretty much standing up for tass the whole game, not even trying to subtly draw any attention to him. I don't think a wolf would want to say anything about Tass, and let the suspicion fall on him naturally for being alive for so long.
Mead-
If it weren't for that convo I posted about him not knowing I was in this game, I would think he is more wolfish. If I believe Afro in thinking you ARE indeed that clever, then you did a good job of fooling me. If I had an AIM name that was more related to my FFR name, I would be less inclined to believe him, but about 90% of the time people forget who I am on AIM anyway.
LD-
Doesn't seem to be taking this very seriously, acting like a very bored human. Doesn't seem too worried about making himself look human, but also doesn't seem too worried about finding the wolf. I think he would love to say that he tricked the God-Emperor of TWG at his own game, but at the same time anyone should be scared of Tass' final day reasoning for sniffing out the wolf.
[This thought is making me go on a tangent now: I believe there are there main reasons as to why Tass is still alive now. 1-He is the wolf. 2-Wolf wants him to get lynched because people would assume #1 at this point in the game. 3-What I said in the LD thing: X would love to say that he tricked the God-Emperor of TWG at his own game. ] Finishing the tangent, just going to go off on Tass.
*Changing gears*
First of all, Tass would love to be a wolf in this game. If he wasn't, I would think he would be nervous about a different wolf taking the glory for his game. His recent posts don't show any signs of dispair. He's mad about inactivity, but not pissed like he should be if he wanted to win as a human. It seems like, "You guys should post so I can say 'I told you so' at the end when I win."
Secondly, all of this stuff that "proves his humanity" makes me think that he just wants more fame for how much thought he put into his kills and votes. Speaking of voting, both of Tass' votes have been very weak. Tass is very good at strategizing, and he likes to share his ideas with people. I have talked to him many times during this game, and he doesn't bring up TWG. If he's a wolf, his strategy has to be private and he wouldn't have as much time to come up with great human plans. Right now his only plan is "I hope the wolves don't kill me tonight."
If it's not Tass, then I think it's Kefit. Kefit is the only person I feel hasn't done anything to lean towards human. I'm saying right now that unless Tass provides something other than "The wolf did this, which means I'm human," my vote is staying. Then, if the game is not over, I will be voting Kefit.
LD, Omega, if one of you is the wolf, you trixxed me.
Mead, if you're the wolf, you lucked out because two people are more suspicious than you at this crucial time.
Tasselfoot
12-22-2005, 12:12 AM
Something I said on day 2 that should be said again... we should NOT be opening saying who we plan on voting for or thinking are wolves past 1 (maybe 2) people. This will give the wolf way too much of an edge on who to wolf tonight so that they leave the 2 perfect humans left to attack each other.
Nick, I don't know what to tell you... in the 50% shot that Kilga did not pick randomly, there is a 0% shot he picked me. We don't see eye to eye. In the event it was random, 1/14... which overall is a 1/28 shot of being the wolf. That is statistics speaking.
From the real perspective, you seem to be putting ALOT more faith into my twg-penis than is really there. I'll gloat about things after the game, but never have I intentionally set something up so as to further my posistion or ability to gloat later on. And, I haven't talked to anyone but the dead people about TWG. Nobody has IMed me about it, and frankly, I said from before this game started, that I never wanted to play in a manhunt. I hosted it for a reason... cause I didn't want to play in it the 1st time. Its a boring game IMO, and this is proving it.
Also, thanks for completely ignoring all my reasoning as to why I COULDN'T be the wolf, aside from the seer statistics of it. Again, you seem to merely think of it as my twg-penis and nothing more... I completely disagree.
Finally, why is it that only AFTER I comment on you seeming off by not making a long post is it that you actually do make a long post? And, to top it all off, you vote me of all people, the ONLY active person left, who had suspicion on you beforehand... so as to make it look like if I voted for you, it would merely be retribution or revenge voting.
Omeganitros
12-22-2005, 01:34 AM
Um, crap. I just got majorly grounded, so chances are unless I'm at a friend's house, the only time you MIGHT hear from me is past 2am from now on.
nickadeemus
12-22-2005, 03:31 AM
First of all, dead are not supposed to talk to the living so wtf there. Now onto more important matters. As solid minded as I sounded in my last post, doesn't mean I'm not going to change if new shit comes to light. I find Omega's post to have very strange timing as far as posts and game duration go.
Your statistics were for the beginning of the game, now we have 6 people, and my statistics give you a 1/5 chance of being a wolf. That's not too shabby. It won't necessarily win the game, but with other factors involved it will get us that much closer.
I agree that the majority of what I used against you was in regards to your twg-penis, and to throw in some kind of hyperbole/simile/thing I will take some of my eggs out of that basket. I was just happy to have time and to have something to write about. I remember you saying you didn't really want to play, you get a couple human points there. Now that we're coming to an end on this game, I realize I have not been doing anything at ALL to really look for a wolf until now. Since I am still alive this far, I want to try to hold my weight in this game and figure out the wolf. This is my first TWG as a human where I made it far enough to make a big difference in the direction of the game, and I just tried making an attack. Since you were the only person alive with enough out there to read and attempt to analyze, you were first.
I know I can't make anyone do what I ask, but I think to the humans it would be beneficial; someone pick another person to attack. Do some sort of research and/or read carefully over their posts. Pick more than one if you have the time. Tomorrow I will try going after someone other than Tass and I'd like feedback on what I come up with.
I'm not sure whether that last paragraph sounded like I'm a total fag, or just really interested in the game. Probably a little of both, but I'm okay with that.
mead1
12-22-2005, 07:13 AM
Nick, I'm really suspicious of Tass too, but his TWG-penis doesn't tend to be his sole motivator when he does things.
I Have two major suspicions right now, I'll try to make a longer post later.
mattc16
12-22-2005, 07:51 AM
heh i r teh dead
Tasselfoot
12-22-2005, 08:00 AM
My comments about talking to the dead were just that... quick comments with Blah and TPS that really had no impact on the game whatsoever. But, they are the only TWG related conversaions I've had.
Also,
but I think to the humans it would be beneficial;
slip up there? sounds like you aren't including yourself as one of the humans.
lightdarkness
12-22-2005, 01:24 PM
Tass since I didn't vote already.
Even if we are wrong about him, it's still better than having him on the last day.
Plus I'm going out of town, so peace out
Omeganitros
12-22-2005, 02:26 PM
What the gay, LD. Why the hell do we not want him on the last day?
Tasselfoot
12-22-2005, 02:46 PM
Nick and LD... both of your reasonings for voting me are fucking terrible.
You are voting me purely because I'm me and I'm still alive... well gee, who benefits from that? the wolf. Have I acted any different this game than previous ones? Have I not been the post active poster days 2 and 3, if not day 1 as well. Am I not the only person keeping this thread active.
You damn well better want me alive on day 4 cause it sure looks like I'm the only hope we have of winning.
LD
Tasselfoot
12-22-2005, 02:47 PM
PS - How about nobody else vote me, considering if I get 3 votes, and all 3 are human... the wolf will have an easy time instaing me. We still have until MONDAY, and today is Thursday.
nickadeemus
12-22-2005, 05:20 PM
Kefit to lower the chances of something crazy happening if I leave. I'd also like to hear from him and mead.
mead1
12-22-2005, 05:27 PM
Well, the long post I promised isn't happening, the angle I was looking at was totally whack. I think my top suspicion right now is Nick.
A couple things are bothering me there. Firstly, and this is a less substantial reason, he just seems to be trying too hard to seem human, to the point where it really doesn't look human anymore.
Secondly, he made a long and drawn out post on how sure he was it was Tass, then he backed off without any real reason behind it. This really sticks out as being a little odd. He did say it was to make sure there was no insta, but normally when someone puts that much thought into a vote, they stick with it. This again strikes me as acting "too human".
nickadeemus
12-22-2005, 05:41 PM
I never said I was sure it was Tass. I just found something to go on (that wasn't very strong in the first place) and tried matching up his actions with that one thought. I did say that starting that post I had no real suspicions, because Tass seemed more human than a wolf before I started going off on how I thought he would gloat. Tass responded, and I was satisfied with what he said for now, though nothing to make me entirely drop suspicion.
Kefit was my next top suspicion, and now that I think about it, probably a better choice to kill today. Later I am going to attempt to find some things to bring up on Kefit and hope that he can respond with something to ease my suspicions, or maybe harden them. Hell, maybe he'll even post before I start looking.
Tasselfoot
12-22-2005, 07:28 PM
OK... this is what I see. I see Nick doing everything in his power to fit in and slip through.
He says he's making a post day 1, he comes to talk to me day 1 about people as wolves in past games.... then goes to make a big post about everyone as a wolf from past games. That seems fairly human.
Since then, he's fallen off the radar. No follow up type posts, a phantom, and while its hard to judge (because Kilga has been away often), Nick isn't online as much as some others, and fits as a potential from the long update standpoint.
Then, when I call him on not making a big post, that is when he does... and that post is about me. THEN when I call him on his BS, he says nothing to me about it on AIM (1 line that was meaningless, then went silent)... and then mead gives suspicion about Kefit and Nick blindly follows suit.
To be fair, Nick did say Kefit was his #2, but his reasoning is more of why others can't be instead of why Kefit could be. That works in games with blues and more information... I don't see it working as much in this game.
My vote will stay on LD for now, mostly because he is ignoring everything I'm saying to him logically on AIM (I can post the convo if needed)... although I'm damn tempted to switch to Nick.
lightdarkness
12-22-2005, 07:33 PM
I'll post it cause it's BS tass
(16:35:39) TasselFoot: you realize we have until monday to vote and figure things out.
(16:35:39) Jay <AUTO-REPLY> : Work til 9
(16:35:54) TasselFoot: fucking absolutely god damn stupid to not only vote me because i'm me, but to put a 2nd vote on me so early in the day.
(16:36:21) TasselFoot: use your god damn head for once LD. you haven't actually played a TWG in about 5 games. All you do is sit back, do jackshit, take orders now and then from others, and make stupid fucking votes.
(21:06:06) Jay: dude
(21:06:07) Jay: calm down
(21:06:09) Jay: you're the last wolf
(21:06:11) Jay: why so mad
(21:06:53) TasselFoot: 1) what is this nonsense about "last" wolf. there only ever was 1. 2) i'm NOT the wolf.
(21:07:04) Jay: last means last
(21:07:08) Jay: you're the last and only
(21:07:14) TasselFoot: and 3) your only maxidazical and laid back reasoning for voting for me every fucking day is because i'm alive? that is horse shit and you know it.
(21:07:19) TasselFoot: laxidazical*
(21:07:54) TasselFoot: get legitimate reasoning that isn't pulled out of your ass to justify your vote, and i wouldn't be nearly as pissed.
(21:08:11) TasselFoot: but frankly, your lack of caring for the game, and free spirit with tossing your vote around is going to cost us the game.
(21:08:11) Jay: dude, there is never a legit reason for voting for anyone
(21:08:14) Jay: there is never 100% proof
(21:08:15) TasselFoot: assumine YOU aren't the wolf
(21:08:25) TasselFoot: no, but there is better than "tass is alive. must be him."
(21:08:30) Jay: well
(21:08:31) Jay: actually
(21:08:34) Jay: I don't think there is
(21:08:38) TasselFoot: every single kill has been set up to frame me.
(21:08:44) TasselFoot: and if that isn't fucking obvious, i don't know what is.
(21:08:57) Jay: You can't use that excuse forever
(21:09:13) TasselFoot: its not an excuse when its the truth.
(21:09:26) TasselFoot: do i ever do anything that obviously frames me when i'm a wolf?
(21:09:27) TasselFoot: no.
(21:09:32) TasselFoot: not once, ever, in 6 games.
(21:09:51) TasselFoot: have i ever used the excuse that someone is framing me when i'm a wolf? no, never.
(21:10:00) TasselFoot: have i used it about 5 times when i'm human? yes.
(21:10:27) TasselFoot: frankly, i think nick is the wolf.
(21:10:46) TasselFoot: i posted my main reasoning for it earlier on page 8
nickadeemus
12-22-2005, 08:09 PM
I would have made a big post whether or not you said anything about it. I was pissed at myself for getting a phantom and wanted to make up for it.
I'm online almost as much as you are, I just wasn't really into this game in the beginning. Now that I'm still here I wanted to pull my weight.
I went silent because I figured you would be responding with what you thought in the thread, and I could follow up there. Plus it was like 1-2 in the morning and I knew I would have a better perspective of things once I got enough sleep.
When did mead say anything about Kefit? Nothing he said made me change my vote.
Tasselfoot
12-22-2005, 08:52 PM
mead said his thing against Kefit in the post directly above yours.
ps - LD... "its bs"? care to ACTUALLY GIVE A REASON for things? or has this completely turned into the "LD says whatever he wants for whatever reason and doesn't back any of it up with ANYTHING game"?
You place a vote on me for jack reasoning, and now you post our convo, call it BS, and give nothing else. Besides, why post it? I said I would if needed, but it wasn't like I was hiding anything because of it.
mead1
12-24-2005, 07:47 PM
Wow, I take a 14-hour drive, and no-one has posted anything at all. Just Wow, guys. I'm up in Michigan to spend some time with the family, so my posts will be few and far between in the coming days. I'm sorry about this, but my grandfather's computer isn't exactly state-of-the-art. I'm going to place a vote on Nick right now. I know it's early, but there is a small chance I won't be able to get on again before the deadline.
Omeganitros
12-24-2005, 09:02 PM
FUCK! I had this whole big paragraph typed up on why LD is a wolf and it logged me off.
LD, if there's anyone that should'nt be alive on Day 4 it's YOU. But I'm not voting you because of that. At least not completely. I'm voting you because I think you're the wolf, trying to act your "I don't care about this game" self too hard. You keep Tasselfoot alive this game, and keep voting on him in hopes other people will follow you, except you're trying to do this without being serious. Your reasoning SUCKS! I don't want you alive on Day 4, but I also think there won't be a Day 4 if you die. You are the wolf.
Kilgamayan
12-26-2005, 01:39 PM
Tass: 1 (LD)
LD: 2.1 (Tass, Omega, phantom)
Kefit: 1 (nick)
Phantoms for Kefit and mead. Not that they matter.
---
"You know, LD, you've been suspiciously gung-ho about all this. It's just the internet, after all," Tass said.
"What are you talking about? I just want to protect my website."
"I think not. You've been around for far too long, trying to get me demodded, and now I think it's time you need to leave. Kefit, Omega, help me follow LD around and correct every single one of his spelling and punctuation mistakes until he leaves for good."
"Okay," Omega responded.
"Wait, I'm doing what now?" Kefit said.
And thus LD was harassed by those following him around, until, about three hours later, he'd had enough and simply left in a huff.
"Fine, see if I care if you all get killed, you ungreatful bastards."
"That's 'ungrateful'."
---
Tasselfoot
mead1
Omeganitros
nickadeemus
Kefit
It is now Night 4. No more margin for error, although if you simply don't post anything then you can't really screw up. Even so, I'd like to ask that this trend not continue.
Wolf, make your final choices, and make them count, because if you do this right you win.
Kilgamayan
12-28-2005, 01:30 AM
My apologies for the delay, I haven't paid FFR any attention at all today.
Day 4
Tasselfoot tapped his e-foot impatiently. "What's taking the MachoGangster so long to off some people? I GROW TIRED OF WAITING AND WISH TO USE ONLINE TIMES TO DEDUCE WHO IT MIGHT BE RAWR"
"I intentionally delay updates just for that reason," Kilga shot back.
"Man, this is boring. I'm going to go be smart. See you dumbasses in CT, if you ever set foot in there." With that, Tass walked off.
nick looked around. "Hey, where's Kefit?"
Kilga responded, "He got bored and left too, although he said he was bored with this venture about two hours into it. I'm surprised it took him this long.
"Wait, since when were you in the story?" Omega said.
"Did I get in this story once? I forget," asked mead.
---
mead1
Omeganitros
nickadeemus
It is now Day 4, and Kefit and Tasselfoot are dead. You have until Friday at 10 Eastern to vote. Good luck to all, because for every one of you, this is it.
Kefit
12-28-2005, 01:32 AM
I wonder if we will get two votes by Friday.
Good luck guys.
Omeganitros
12-28-2005, 02:14 AM
Crap. I could have sworn LD would be the wolf.
Anyways, when's a good time for you 2 guys to be on AIM?
nickadeemus
12-28-2005, 05:17 AM
Well there goes everything I thought. I'll be on AIM from about 2-4:30pm then 9ish-really late PST.
Tasselfoot
12-28-2005, 09:45 AM
GL guys.
mead1
12-28-2005, 12:56 PM
I still am quite certain of my suspicions of nick. Unfortunately, I may not get to vote at all. See, Ihaven't been posting much due to me being in Michigan and not having even semi-regular computer access. I'm driving home on Friday, and I probably will get home before 10, but no garuntees there. It's 14 hours in the best of times.
Omeganitros
12-28-2005, 05:29 PM
Oooh...Hoo boy...
Omeganitros
12-29-2005, 06:15 PM
Me and nick talked last night about what to do...The best thing we came up with is nickadeemus' suggestion that we ask Kilgamayan for a time extension, but....I'm not sure we're really in a position to be asking favors of the game host. I have a feeling he's ticked over this game's inactivity.
Kilgamayan
12-29-2005, 11:02 PM
mead doesn't have a phantom, my bad.
mead1
12-30-2005, 06:20 PM
I cast my vote for Nick
Omeganitros
12-30-2005, 06:21 PM
Me too. Nick.
mead1
12-30-2005, 06:22 PM
omega
mead1
12-30-2005, 06:24 PM
o wai, too late. Omega winz. i suk
Omeganitros
12-30-2005, 06:24 PM
WEEEEEEEE
HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY
Kilgamayan
12-30-2005, 06:43 PM
rofl
k one moment
Kilgamayan
12-30-2005, 06:52 PM
"Okay, I'm going to vote for the wrong guy and then switch to the right guy too late like what LD did a while ago," mead said. "Maybe it'll work this time!"
"Nope, sorry," Kilga responded.
"Oh. Well, that sucks."
"Yeah, so, I did it all. Hahahahaha etc," Omega said.
"Man, this is boring. Wanna go to BemaniStyle and ask Forum Boredom to AIM bomb some retard?"
"Sure, let's go."
And suddenly everyone died of a heart attack.
"I know what you're getting at, and Mai HiME's ending was NOT A DEUS EX MACHINA!" Kefit said, somehow still alive.
"Wait, didn't you leave?"
---
This **** sucks. Sage.
Omega wins. Postgame coming soon.
MACHO MACHO MAN
I WANT TO BE A MACHO MAN
Omeganitros
01-1-2006, 11:55 PM
Hahaha!
I sorta want to be part of the Macho Gang too, but just posting on their forums is fine for me.
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