Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Oct 16]

[TheSaxRunner05]

Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Apr 3]

Party 4u's difficulty was based on the background being in the way, now that no background scores record it needs to be nerfed to somewhere in the 50's.

I think what FF_Rules is saying is that the system puts all its weight on our strengths and ignores weaknesses. For example, I get D5 level scores on songs like Boot, Going on Spring Wind, Gynandromorph (overrated file), Goatstep (why is this not a 64), Oops, ETERNAL DRAIN [Heavy], The Divine Suicide of K [Heavy] (How is this still an FMO) and so on, but when it comes to endurance jump stream charts I still score like a mid D4 player.

Also, because the difficulty is based on difficulty to AAA, factors like song length and difficulty density aren't factored either. The best example of this is the song 300. The Jumpstream becomes manageable as a high D3 player and the slop comes from the jack transitions. Sure it may be a 70 in AAA difficulty, but even low-mid D4 players can teens the chart without too much problem, while getting over 100+ goods on most other FMOs. Not factoring for this can overrate players. The solution is simply adjusting some of the difficulties to at least factor difficulty to SDG/Teen instead of just difficulty to AAA.

[One Winged Angel]

Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Apr 3]

I have no intentions of changing the way difficulties are determined, but if SDGs are producing skill rating scores that most players don't deem to be entirely accurate, I'm assuming the formula can easily be tweaked to reflect this.

There's no way to say with absolute certainty that 7g on a 60 is worth specifically the equivalent of a 50.XXX whatever AAA, they're just approximations (someone like prawn or trumpet could elaborate more on how these numbers were achieved). Just know that in terms of official tourney placements and what not, players will still be placed on a case by case basis with individual combing through levelranks. I wouldn't worry a great deal about being misplaced because of one or two outlier scores that are outside of your general skill range.

[TheSaxRunner05]

Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Apr 3]

That makes sense, and if anyone sees a problem with a chart's difficulty, it needs to be taken up in the [Contested Chart Difficulties] thread. I agree it's important to run through everyone's level ranks for placement, only using the ratings as a guideline, but as I've said above, I think the formula for the rating needs to be tweaked slightly.

In terms of difficulties, the mid FMO+ Range has been vetted quite thouroughly, but imo the low FMO/VC/C range has a lot to be desired in fixes.

Is there any way to run a query to see which songs are showing up the most in player's top 4 or top 10? If certain charts are appearing waaay to often, we can use that as a starting point for difficulty discussions? I really would like to see data on that.

Edit:// Sorry it keeps double posting because for some reason my internet connection is crap today

[mrpreggers]

Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Apr 3]

Another leaderboard update for you all~

Skill Rating now includes token songs! One Winged Angel has moved any token songs containing zero framers, gimmicks, or short (< 30 note) intense difficulty spikes to Difficulty-0. The following token songs will not affect skill rating: Crowdpleaser, OMGWTFT0k3N, party 4u "holy nite mix", The Wises Were Wrong, and PWND!.

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[Rapta]

Re: Skill Rating &amp; Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Apr 3]

Rank 9 is currently Velocity, and: "Velocity has insufficient games played (< 250 games played and < 50 unique songs passed)" Is this right?

[PrawnSkunk]

Re: Skill Rating &amp; Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Oct 1]

Skill Rating v2 and the updated Global Leaderboards have been released!

Here's a snapshot of the change in positioning among the top 20 players:

[User1176756]

Re: Skill Rating &amp; Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Oct 1]

I actually like this. It's like we're straying further away from FCing songs for ranking rather than FC and get skill rating. I might do a session tomorrow to maybe try to level up. :P FFRPG here we go.

[PrawnSkunk]

Re: Skill Rating &amp; Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Oct 1]

I forgot to include token songs in the script, so expect ranks to shuffle around over the next 24 hours!

[noname219]

Re: Skill Rating &amp; Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Oct 1]

Reporting that there's a few users' leaderboards that cannot be loaded upon request, i.e. : http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...name=Nishachan

Those in the top 300 :
55 Kattykitty
92 FFRxkitty
118 Rowanster107
160 Legenb
272 TN_shikamaru

edit : something that would be quite cool is a drop-down menu where you can choose rankings by country/regions (currently impossible for us. states or canadian provinces, I would like to see that)

[YoshL]

Re: Skill Rating &amp; Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Oct 1]

I forgot to include token songs in the script, so expect ranks to shuffle around over the next 24 hours!

A+, please let us know when this is all done as well, the fpp was great

[Rapta]

Re: Skill Rating &amp; Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Oct 1]

Make the top whatever scores that are counted toward your rank a slightly different color in the leader board? I think it used to be the top four that would have been a different color but now top 15 songs?

[AragakiAyase]

Re: Skill Rating &amp; Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Oct 1]

My TTE score counts for something now

[_Zenith_]

Re: Skill Rating &amp; Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Oct 1]

Make the top whatever scores that are counted toward your rank a slightly different color in the leader board? I think it used to be the top four that would have been a different color but now top 15 songs?

There was no distinguishing color between top 4 scores and leaderboard before the change, and it remained the same way after the change. There is no need for the color.

Also this is quite a huge leap for development and I'm extremely happy to have woken up and saw this as I immediately landed on the front page. Big ups to Max, Trumpet, and Arcn for the work done!

Like I said in FPP, even though I went from 15 -> 18, that number doesn't matter compared to the updated Skill Rating (and fuck yes, thank you for adding an EXP system).

[Rapta]

Re: Skill Rating &amp; Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Oct 1]

There was no distinguishing color between top 4 scores and leaderboard before the change, and it remained the same way after the change. There is no need for the color.

Also this is quite a huge leap for development and I'm extremely happy to have woken up and saw this as I immediately landed on the front page. Big ups to Max, Trumpet, and Arcn for the work done!

Like I said in FPP, even though I went from 15 -> 18, that number doesn't matter compared to the updated Skill Rating (and fuck yes, thank you for adding an EXP system).

You're right, we don't really need it, but I think it would be easier to distinguish the top 15 scores if they were more distinguishable.

[PrawnSkunk]

Re: Skill Rating &amp; Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Oct 1]

I've received a few reports that the R^3 standalone is not loading on versions of Flash Player older than 10.0. I’ll get arcnmx to address this as soon as possible!