Permissions List and Information v8

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by kjwkjw

It seems that we are able to use Mitchie M's music for FFR. Mitchie M is a Vocaloid artist well-known for his works that tune Miku and other Vocaloids to generate singing that is quite realistic and human-like.

On the page for the inquiry form on his official website, it says the following:



This translates to:

For reference on this, should we probably avoid the Project Mirai / Project Diva songs due to them having some sort of deal for the games they're in?

I know you're no expert but probably something that should be addressed sooner than later

Also awesome pick up regardless.

[WirryWoo]

Secured another permission from Hedegaard. Awesome music. I redacted the download link containing all of his music which he kindly sent to me in the email. If you are interested in stepping one of his songs, feel free to ask me for the .mp3 file.

[hi19hi19]

Rasmus Hedegaard makes excellent music but in my mind and probably many others, he is cursed forever to be "that guy with the Smoke Weed Everyday remix"

[Rapta]

Geoxor Blanket Permissions!

[T-Force]

Originally Posted by noname219

Rainbowdragoneyes [ Chiptune / Metal / Dance ] [Permission Revoked: 09/14/2020]

Quoted from the OP for visibility.

[qrrbrbirbel]

hidden machine perms!


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[RadiantVibe]

If anyone wants to use my music go for it

https://soundcloud.com/sspenst

Let me know if you want an mp3 for anything

[noname219]

Currently making everything up-to-date and will update this post whenever something is missing.

Originally Posted by Ghost_Medley

I'm discussing with Toni Leys about a potential limited permission. [...]

As I understand it, the permission is not final, but keep us informed if you have any clearer response by Toni Leys about what is allowed to use. I've added Toni in the list with a mention to ask directly before using any songs.

Originally Posted by gold stinger

https://www.bmsoffighters.net/bofxvi/rule.html
Might be worth including with BMSofFighters 'open source' permission, to avoid another long 2-day discussion on validity of 'open source' permissions in the future.

Stuff sent into BMSofFighters isn't necessarily free to use via copyright, but it requires that the file uploaded can be redistributed by pretty much everyone without changes. It's still being discussed and trying to reach out to see what others think about BMS music and its validity in permissions as a whole.

Been wanting to add The BMS of Fighters but haven't been able to figure out where to find and how to explain the validity of the permission and I recall multiple conversations at some point about that. Gonna have to do some more research before adding.

edit : Was missing some earlier permissions in the thread (but not on the wiki), those were added. Everything is up to date as of now.

[Ghost_Medley]

Originally Posted by noname219

As I understand it, the permission is not final, but keep us informed if you have any clearer response by Toni Leys about what is allowed to use. I've added Toni in the list with a mention to ask directly before using any songs.

The case for Toni Leys is currently "no reply" since the last screenshot, but I have sent a reminder email and am waiting for further info. Until then, I suggest not having it listed as "ask to use songs" since there is nothing confirmed.

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by noname219

Been wanting to add The BMS of Fighters but haven't been able to figure out where to find and how to explain the validity of the permission and I recall multiple conversations at some point about that. Gonna have to do some more research before adding.

Keep it as-is. Although, it should be updated to reflect that it's not permissions based on the music being open source. I believe it's getting treated as the 'takedown' option atm. People can submit BMSofFighters-specific music still, but if the music authors ask FFR to take them down, then they come down. No different to if we have permissions already from someone currently, and they decide to revoke their own permissions later. This is why they're still treated as permission. If we take down BMSofFighters-related content completely, then it means hundreds of songs will become disabled.

Currently, if you want music from other BMS-related venues, then you should provide proof that either the event host requires the submissions to be royalty free/CC permission'd/etc., or the venue host requires events to agree to something similar.

It's still heavily in the works however. We have permission from the person running BMSofFighters, but beyond actual exclaimers & some stuff that changes based on translation (It's in JP, not Eng), it's not a informed conclusion on the subject. I've contacted Synthlight about it, but not much on the table as of late.

[Bolth mannn]

Hey guys, I'm involved in two music projects, and you guys have full permission to use any current and upcoming songs from the following two handles (PM me if you need any mp3s):

Bligh (Indie Pop/Rock): https://www.blighband.com/
11:51 (Alternative/Ballad): https://www.facebook.com/1151official

[Bolth mannn]

Also, what are legalities surrounding artists we have permission for releasing cover songs of other artists that we don't?

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by Bolth mannn

Also, what are legalities surrounding artists we have permission for releasing cover songs of other artists that we don't?

cover songs are someone's own interpretation of a previously existing work (like a remix), of which there are many in FFR whom we have permissions for, but not the original work.

As long as you're using the cover or remix, and not the original if we don't have permission for the original. Not to be mistaken with reproducing the original work.

[noname219]

Originally Posted by gold stinger

cover songs are someone's own interpretation of a previously existing work (like a remix), of which there are many in FFR whom we have permissions for, but not the original work.

As long as you're using the cover or remix, and not the original if we don't have permission for the original. Not to be mistaken with reproducing the original work.

There's of course an exception to this, the cover must keep the same lyrics. A translation for example while keeping the same arrangements would be deemed a substantial change (derivative work) and would require permission from the original copyright holder.

Remixes are something else, by law, you need to get permission from the copyright holder (and in our case, to use it in-game).

In the case of remixes, if we don't have permission from the original artist, *technically* we could receive cease and desist letters. There's some leeway since we are non-profit.

The key word here is "derivative work" :
a work based upon one or more preexisting works, such as a translation, musical arrangement, dramatization, fictionalization, motion picture version, sound recording, art reproduction, abridgment, condensation, or any other form in which a work may be recast, transformed, or adapted. A work consisting of editorial revisions, annotations, elaborations, or other modifications which, as a whole, represent an original work of authorship, is a "derivative work.

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by noname219

There's of course an exception to this, the cover must keep the same lyrics. A translation for example while keeping the same arrangements would be deemed a substantial change (derivative work) and would require permission from the original copyright holder.

Remixes are something else, by law, you need to get permission from the copyright holder (and in our case, to use it in-game).

In the case of remixes, if we don't have permission from the original artist, *technically* we could receive cease and desist letters. There's some leeway since we are non-profit.

The key word here is "derivative work" :
a work based upon one or more preexisting works, such as a translation, musical arrangement, dramatization, fictionalization, motion picture version, sound recording, art reproduction, abridgment, condensation, or any other form in which a work may be recast, transformed, or adapted. A work consisting of editorial revisions, annotations, elaborations, or other modifications which, as a whole, represent an original work of authorship, is a "derivative work.

Was on the assumption that the person we had permissions for was blanket permission unless otherwise stated (as they usually do regarding stuff like this), but yes. This as well.

We can go down a crazy rabbit hole about what is / isn't 'derivative work' and what is fair game on 'remixes'. But without making the breakdown on what is / isn't usable complicated, it's ok as long as it's blanket permissions, or there's no restrictions on the content they've made. Creative Commons permissions are OK, as long as they don't have a ND (No Derivatives) extension to the license, unless the version of the license is 1.0. (99% of people use 2.0, 3.0, or 4.0 licenses now, because 1.0 is massively outdated due to a flaw, so good luck finding one.)

[qrrbrbirbel]

https://i.imgur.com/YJp7iWg.png

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[xXOpkillerXx]

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[gold stinger]

Minecraft asset (audio) permissions under these guidelines:

- NOT make people think that you or what you are doing is official; approved or endorsed by us; or associated or connected with us;
- NOT be unlawful, deceptive, obscene, harmful or disparaging;
- NOT take action that would harm or damage any of our Brands or any of our Assets;
- NOT include anything else around it that makes people think that you or what you are doing is official; approved or endorsed by us; or associated or connected with us;

- do so in a way that honestly and fairly describes those things or the purpose of them;
- ensure that the Name (which includes any confusingly similar name) is not the first word, doesn't use any - other aspect of any of our Brands or Assets as part of any related branding, including as or as part of any logo;
- make it clear that the product is unofficial and not from Minecraft or approved by Minecraft.

tl;dr
- credit the music author, not Minecraft
- can't promote the game as "having music from Minecraft" or implying partnership or official ties with Minecraft
- can't use their content as promotion for the game itself

Follow those, and you can technically use Minecraft's music in-game, since Minecraft is ok with its use in non-commercial ventures under these guidelines. Can read more about it here. https://account.mojang.com/documents/brand_guidelines

[noname219]

Originally Posted by ElectricZap9

Have we asked death grips for permission to use their self-released music in the past?
I'm aware people can still have the rights to own their self-released things

Not to my knowledge. They do have their own label for everything other than The Money Store (which was released on Epic), so it's possible but very unlikely they would give permission.

Originally Posted by gold stinger

Minecraft asset (audio) permissions under these guidelines:

- NOT make people think that you or what you are doing is official; approved or endorsed by us; or associated or connected with us;
- NOT be unlawful, deceptive, obscene, harmful or disparaging;
- NOT take action that would harm or damage any of our Brands or any of our Assets;
- NOT include anything else around it that makes people think that you or what you are doing is official; approved or endorsed by us; or associated or connected with us;

- do so in a way that honestly and fairly describes those things or the purpose of them;
- ensure that the Name (which includes any confusingly similar name) is not the first word, doesn't use any - other aspect of any of our Brands or Assets as part of any related branding, including as or as part of any logo;
- make it clear that the product is unofficial and not from Minecraft or approved by Minecraft.

tl;dr
- credit the music author, not Minecraft
- can't promote the game as "having music from Minecraft" or implying partnership or official ties with Minecraft
- can't use their content as promotion for the game itself

Follow those, and you can technically use Minecraft's music in-game, since Minecraft is ok with its use in non-commercial ventures under these guidelines. Can read more about it here. https://account.mojang.com/documents/brand_guidelines

Added Minecraft to Post #4.

[hi19hi19]

Seems like everything from the klassik-resampled song library is CC-BY-NC-ND (http://klassik.sfahl.de/index.php/en...sum1/copyright) and so this site might be a good place to look for recordings of classical music if IMSLP falls short.

http://klassik.sfahl.de/index.php/en/

The reconstructions are a little robotic, but might be a great source for stuff like concertos and symphonies that are very famous and recognizable but basically don't have public domain/non-copyright recordings simply because of their difficulty and scale.
Just a thought.

EDIT- as usual for this kind of embedded mp3 player, you can yoink the .mp3s straight from the player even for the ones that don't have a download link by viewing the source and appending the .mp3 link from the player directly to http://klassik.sfahl.de/audio/...whatever.mp3
wow so hackerman