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Old 09-30-2008, 07:19 PM   #21
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Yes, it is possible to FC this song using double-setup.
Don't use DS though as it is cheating.
It's technically not cheating, it isn't something to be proud of though.
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Old 09-30-2008, 07:51 PM   #22
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actually it is cheating, as in your scores will be deleted if you're caught using it
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Old 09-30-2008, 08:49 PM   #23
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How could someone tell if you were DSing? The replay would look just like a legit replay, wouldn't it?
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Old 09-30-2008, 09:00 PM   #24
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well say you have a Death Piano score.

It's a Full combo. There is 1,800 boos. That is near impossible to get usingjust one set of keys. It's DS. The highest i've ever gotten on DP was 1,237 boos and that was mashing everything on the song
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Old 09-30-2008, 09:02 PM   #25
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What if you vibrated your way through everything and passed? You could get 1,800.
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Old 09-30-2008, 09:45 PM   #26
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EHHS is amazing. I don't know what you are talking about.
EHHS V1 is an overcharted stepfile that can only be explained with crack. EHHS V2 is much more like the file should be.
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Old 09-30-2008, 10:23 PM   #27
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What if you vibrated your way through everything and passed? You could get 1,800.
You fail by booing out.

This is why I can't vibrate properly on FFR compared to SM. I get a **** ton of boos, rofl.
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Old 09-30-2008, 10:28 PM   #28
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there are two ehhs?
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Old 09-30-2008, 10:46 PM   #29
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there are two ehhs?
Yeah, one's a FMO and the other is a challenging.
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Old 09-30-2008, 10:56 PM   #30
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EHHS V1 is an overcharted stepfile that can only be explained with crack. EHHS V2 is much more like the file should be.
No it's not. It's layered, and makes sense. There are ridiculous SM files that seem retarded, but are in technicality correct. Now, technicality =/= always fun or good, but EHHS is not a prime example of overstepping. It's perfectly doable by many people in the community with ease.

Overstepped is something like Death Piano or Revo.

p.s. "I can't do this chart" does not qualify as a good reason to say a chart is overstepped. "Nobody can do this chart" is different.
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Old 09-30-2008, 11:04 PM   #31
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post-dumps abstractly represent the existential nihilism that the song invokes in the listener with negative space, evoking the ephemeral nature of the mind - the journey of stepmania begins in hope yet soon becomes corroded into a dialectic of futility, leaving only a sense of dread and the unlikelihood of a new synthesis
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Old 09-30-2008, 11:22 PM   #32
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No it's not. It's layered, and makes sense. There are ridiculous SM files that seem retarded, but are in technicality correct. Now, technicality =/= always fun or good, but EHHS is not a prime example of overstepping. It's perfectly doable by many people in the community with ease.

Overstepped is something like Death Piano or Revo.

p.s. "I can't do this chart" does not qualify as a good reason to say a chart is overstepped. "Nobody can do this chart" is different.
^ THIS. ^

I am SICK and tired of people complaining about how a chart sucks (in most cases, it makes PERFECT sense.) simply because they cannot do it. I mean, everyone is entitled to saying that they despise it, hate it, hope it dies, etc, etc (I <3 EHHS btw).

Back on topic--Crowdpleaser is totally FC'able, you just have to be able to vibrate trills. And seeing as how the trill's fastest section is only 1/4 of a measure long, it's not that hard.
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Old 09-30-2008, 11:25 PM   #33
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No it's not. It's layered, and makes sense. There are ridiculous SM files that seem retarded, but are in technicality correct.
Almost the entire ODIPack 2 being your prime example here. Planet Karma is so unfun it's not even funny. It's just like, "lol look guys i can step something realy really well and for some reason it's boring as ****."
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Old 10-1-2008, 12:03 AM   #34
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Almost the entire ODIPack 2 being your prime example here. Planet Karma is so unfun it's not even funny. It's just like, "lol look guys i can step something realy really well and for some reason it's boring as ****."
fine we'll only make files YOU find fun

I'll send word out to all the dark stepmania chancellors immediately
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Old 10-1-2008, 12:06 AM   #35
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Excuse me, am I supposed to know every single thread that was created?
Whenever I create a thread, someone tells me that...
I think it's a sign.
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Old 10-1-2008, 12:17 AM   #36
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I think it's a sign.
A veritably significant sign. (Cowfreak has a point, but if it's every time, I'm sure there's a problem.)

If there are videos that demonstrate "vibration", I would be glad to take a look at it... I don't comprehend the term or its method. The brief period of "vibration" in the CP videos are too short... Does it require certain keyboards? Arm/hand positions etc.

Random thought:
Death Piano is overstepped, in the sense of human capability... but even the SM file doesn't incorporate all of the first/second piano, not to mention any of the third/fourth. The 12th jump jacks in the FFR version would need both Shash's interwoven runningmen AND 24th trills inside the jump jacks, to make it accurate to the song itself WITHOUT representing each piano with an arrow... <_> That's obviously not the only part missing arrows, but it's already a horrifying yet interesting thought.

Even if I do learn vibration, I won't be able to do vibration due to the structural deficiencies of my left hand, so I'll never FC Crowdpleaser.
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Old 10-1-2008, 12:22 AM   #37
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i legitly fced it
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Old 10-1-2008, 12:25 AM   #38
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That's actually one of the reasons I find myself playing files from older Stepmania eras. They were just more fun. A lot of the stuff coming out now just isn't my cup of tea. I don't like having a wall of bullcrap flying up my screen and then seeing how much of it I can hit by squeaking every last drop of energy from my fingertips.

Then again I enjoy playing for accuracy as opposed to playing for speed. Crowdpleaser is alright, but I just don't find megatrills to be *fun*, you know? There's really no pleasure to be had in vibrating your keys and trying to match it up with the arrow patterns enough to maintain a combo. Files that challenge my accuracy and have steps that make it feel like you're "playing" the song are a lot of fun (by "playing" the song I mean how you'd be tapping your hands to it if you were just drumming on a desk, jamming out on your headphones or something).
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Old 10-1-2008, 12:28 AM   #39
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Even if I do learn vibration, I won't be able to do vibration due to the structural deficiencies of my left hand, so I'll never FC Crowdpleaser.
This reminds me of a question I've had for a while but never asked. Is it okay to use one key layout but change styles while adhering to the same layout? How about a different layout? Midday, I was thinking you could play using the arrow keys (most of the song isn't too hard to play using the arrow keys) and then vibrate the trill one-handed, finally quickly reverting to spread after the megatrill.
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Old 10-1-2008, 12:31 AM   #40
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No it's not. It's layered, and makes sense. There are ridiculous SM files that seem retarded, but are in technicality correct. Now, technicality =/= always fun or good, but EHHS is not a prime example of overstepping. It's perfectly doable by many people in the community with ease.

Overstepped is something like Death Piano or Revo.

p.s. "I can't do this chart" does not qualify as a good reason to say a chart is overstepped. "Nobody can do this chart" is different.
Correct technicality does not make the chart overstepped/understepped. You could take a song with 4 different beats going on at the same time, and make one beat = all four arrows, another beat = three arrows, another beat = two arrows, and the last beat equal one arrow. Technically speaking, it makes sense, but it's still overstepped.

EHHS isn't the prime example of overstepping, that would be Death Piano or One Minute Waltz or something akin to that, but it's definitely the file that is the least fun for me to play. It isn't because I can't do it, because I can keep a combo throughout most of the song without mashing, it's just that I think it's stupid.

Seriously, though, Death Piano shouldn't be in the game, or it should have been a token or something. It's just plain dumb.
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