Crowdpleaser

[Patashu]

Vibrating:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUO7dKLPV2s
(watch to the end)

[iceefudgesickle]

Originally Posted by MrRubix

That's actually one of the reasons I find myself playing files from older Stepmania eras. They were just more fun. A lot of the stuff coming out now just isn't my cup of tea. I don't like having a wall of bullcrap flying up my screen and then seeing how much of it I can hit by squeaking every last drop of energy from my fingertips.

Then again I enjoy playing for accuracy as opposed to playing for speed. Crowdpleaser is alright, but I just don't find megatrills to be *fun*, you know? There's really no pleasure to be had in vibrating your keys and trying to match it up with the arrow patterns enough to maintain a combo. Files that challenge my accuracy and have steps that make it feel like you're "playing" the song are a lot of fun (by "playing" the song I mean how you'd be tapping your hands to it if you were just drumming on a desk, jamming out on your headphones or something).

This.

You put my exact thoughts into a good description, Rubix. Way to go.

Jacks are okay-super-mega-fine-alright when there's just two or three in a row, or even if there's a short burst so long as it isn't RIDICULOUSLY fast, but Crowdpleaser, Hardkore Atomic, Death Piano, and Revo (I'm sure I'm missing some but those are the main ones) just aren't any fun to play because of their ridiculous jacks. Club is about as fast as I can take it before I just forget about it and move on to something else that I can actually have fun playing. I assume the point of FFR is to have fun, so making it a chore isn't my plan.

RunnyMorning and Molto are also files that could be better without those damn jacks. I don't care if they make sense with the music or not. Both files are fun to play, but if they released a V2 with colored notes and the jack parts gone, they would be some of my most played FFR songs ever.

[[TeRa]]

I've never felt like I'm playing the song, I must be crazy.
Jacks are fun, vibrating is fun, everyone just hates both because they're bad at them, practice.

Edit: Lemme rephrase that, accurate jacking and accurate vibrating are fun, just mashing keys senselessly is stupid, vibrating the speed to AAA a 200bpm 32nd trill is fun, wrist jacking the exact speed of some jack to AAA it is fun.

[Patashu]

Originally Posted by [TeRa]

I've never felt like I'm playing the song, I must be crazy.

you don't have an appreciation for art :[

[[TeRa]]

No I'm just not crazy enough to think that the keys I'm hitting on my keyboard are what's making the sound come out my speakers. If it was IIDX/Popn and the keys I pressed made sounds, then maybe I would get more of this feeling.

Also if my keys could light up when I pressed them, that would be cool.

[-zeroSKILL-]

Originally Posted by Bluearrowll

well say you have a Death Piano score.

It's a Full combo. There is 1,800 boos. That is near impossible to get usingjust one set of keys. It's DS. The highest i've ever gotten on DP was 1,237 boos and that was mashing everything on the song

rofl... Beat this xD

EDIT: This is who_cares973's score on Death Piano. Not mine. My 'Best Rank' is MUCH better than his. lol

[who_cares973]

thats my DP mash btw

Originally Posted by Bluearrowll

well say you have a Death Piano score.

It's a Full combo. There is 1,800 boos. That is near impossible to get usingjust one set of keys. It's DS. The highest i've ever gotten on DP was 1,237 boos and that was mashing everything on the song

i wouldnt call an 1800 boo fc on DP bs. now if it was a 1900-2000+ fc (see gibsons DP fc) i would call bs

and just because you cant mash doesnt mean others cant

[stargroup100]

you guys don't get the point of death piano

people are constantly complaining about how easy ffr files are, and I was sick of their b*tching, so I converted shash's dp by removing all the retarded sections while still maintaining difficulty

at the time of its release it was WAAAAAY harder than any other ffr file (if any mentions vrofl in response to this they should die), so it illustrated my words very well

[iceefudgesickle]

Originally Posted by stargroup100

you guys don't get the point of death piano

people are constantly complaining about how easy ffr files are, and I was sick of their b*tching, so I converted shash's dp by removing all the retarded sections while still maintaining difficulty

at the time of its release it was WAAAAAY harder than any other ffr file (if any mentions vrofl in response to this they should die), so it illustrated my words very well

Wow. You can go to hell. (NO I'M JUST KIDDING don't mistake this for flaming) why were people complaining about how easy it was? There were plenty of hard songs even before DP.

[Bluearrowll]

Originally Posted by who_cares973

thats my DP mash btw



i wouldnt call an 1800 boo fc on DP bs. now if it was a 1900-2000+ fc (see gibsons DP fc) i would call bs

and just because you cant mash doesnt mean others cant

Well you have to factor in averages as well. If you get that many boos you're bound to get averages. averages take away from boos.

[EgomaniaCircus]

Originally Posted by Bluearrowll

well say you have a Death Piano score.

It's a Full combo. There is 1,800 boos. That is near impossible to get usingjust one set of keys. It's DS. The highest i've ever gotten on DP was 1,237 boos and that was mashing everything on the song

1800 boos is easy without DS.

Death Piano 1,382 - 616 - 446 - 9 - 1,798 2,410 3,325,280 9/30/08

I did that just the other day in a boo count contest in MP.

ps. dp is amazing ily sg

[mhss1992]

Originally Posted by MooMoo_Cowfreak

Guys stop acting like know everything. The thread you linked too was a brag thread. Using the search function wouldn't of helped much in his situation.

Thank you.

[Xiaounlimited]

Originally Posted by stargroup100

you guys don't get the point of death piano

people are constantly complaining about how easy ffr files are, and I was sick of their b*tching, so I converted shash's dp by removing all the retarded sections while still maintaining difficulty

Whether or not this was the intent, I have to concur with Rubix. I can appreciate hard files, undoubtedly. However, "let's make a stepfile so unfriendly to the human race even top tier players will laugh at how difficult it is".

I do not understand this obsession with files like Death Piano, Amber Shores, etc. After a point, it just becomes about how fast you can vibrate and nothing else. Speed seems to be all the rage, now. Files are no longer fun. I've no intention of becoming "top tier SM player" because frankly, things like Linus' BS and 1000bpm Jackhammer are not my cup of tea.

"Step it this way and only this way because we all like generic files". I haven't played many fun charts as of late, because they all play the exact ****ing same. I miss experimental files, or something that is completely absent from files any longer: creating your own rhythms with the steps. That is nonexistent now. Technical accuracy seems to override that as a priority.

Frankly SG, hi19's MAMA file is more fun to play than all of your files ****ing put together because it's different and interesting to play. For you, it's PR, layering, PR, layering. This is why I hate your files. This is why I hate the SM community's picks. They don't stand out.

On that note, let's put Howdnbshouldbestepped onto FFR. That'd be fun, right? It's certainly hard! Must be.

[EDEdDNEdDYFaN]

files like piano forte suck nutsack

files like battle theme #37 = yes please!

[DossarLX ODI]

lmao 1000 bpm jackhammer was a joke

And linus bull**** is easy what are you talking about ?_?

[MrRubix]

I think SG's Death Piano would have been a decently challenging file even without the ending jumpgluts. It's mainly the last section of the song I dislike because I'm literally forced to go into mindless mash-mode. Everything up until that point was fine.

Besides, I feel much more accomplished when I do well on a song that requires some finesse. If I pass a really hard mash-song, I don't feel as great because all I did was mindlessly hammer ****. If I do really well and AAA/AAAA a difficult song, it's a great feeling to be able to pull off that kind of focused consistency/accuracy.

I second Xiao's opinion when it comes to steps -- creativity trumps difficulty. Just slapping mashwalls to high-speed music rolls or boring, uncreative streams to a background beat is just so incredibly overdone, and most files reek of this. Not every techno/trance/dance/pop/SONG is good for stepping. Songs that are themselves creative usually give way for very creative interpretation, and I love it when someone is able to exploit this.

[[TeRa]]

Originally Posted by EDEdDNEdDYFaN

files like piano forte suck nutsack

files like battle theme #37 = yes please!

Scott finished stepping piano forte back in November 07 (probably even earlier), when avmiss was still around, he had to make the file avmiss friendly, he definitely could have made it better with how FFR is now. The file itself is still fun to play.

Battle theme probably took 20 minutes to step, the 2nd half the beginning mirrored. The file is fun to an extent, but it doesn't hold all that much replay value.

Originally Posted by stargroup100

you guys don't get the point of death piano

people are constantly complaining about how easy ffr files are, and I was sick of their b*tching, so I converted shash's dp by removing all the retarded sections while still maintaining difficulty

at the time of its release it was WAAAAAY harder than any other ffr file (if any mentions vrofl in response to this they should die), so it illustrated my words very well

vrofl

[EDEdDNEdDYFaN]

technical files (yes i'm going to use the term technical here) like piano forte, planet kramer, etc. colored note bull**** isn't fun. it's just the step author strokin his own dick thinking he's the tightest stepper alive. if you honestly have fun with those files then your life is sad.

[Patashu]

Originally Posted by EDEdDNEdDYFaN

technical files (yes i'm going to use the term technical here) like piano forte, planet kramer, etc. colored note bull**** isn't fun. it's just the step author strokin his own dick thinking he's the tightest stepper alive. if you honestly have fun with those files then your life is sad.

MOOOOOM EDEdDNEdDYFaN said my life was sad :[:{:<

[[TeRa]]

I never said all colored note songs were fun, I'm just saying piano forte is IMO.