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  • Dynam0
    The Dominator
    • Sep 2005
    • 8987

    #1

    What happens to your data after you die

    Rant incoming

    Lately I've been considering drafting a will although I'm relatively young and it's probably not necessary as all of my possessions would go to my parents / next of kin. But at some point it's going to be necessary.

    I've been thinking about all the time I've spent on this site, playing rhythm games, and just video games in general. Sometimes I almost consider the "work" that I've put into these hobbies as accomplishments, things that I would like to leave a legacy behind even after I pass. It might be totally selfish, but as a guy who feels having children is totally not in the cards for me, it's been crossing my mind.

    My thought is to make a clause within my will that states "person x" shall retain control of my computer hard drives, and also account credentials and data from x,y, and z websites. What they decide to do with this data is up to them but I think that not setting up a system like this could result in some really valuable information that would be lost to time.

    Am I way off the mark here? It's just something I've been thinking about lately. (dw I don't plan on dying any time soon but you never know with my impulses and proclivity to take risks)

    If there are any takers who would like to retain my digital assets after I pass let me know :P
  • Mollocephalus
    Custom User Title
    • Jul 2009
    • 2608

    #2
    Re: What happens to your data after you die

    It's actually a reasonable thing to do and more people should do it. A lot of information and data is forcibly collected by tech giants but it eventually stays locked and dies there, with no way of getting access. Having a meaningful access to the digital footprint of a loved one could help remembering and even recovering some of the things they've said and done.
    Last edited by Mollocephalus; 02-24-2021, 04:29 AM.

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    • Rivaloo
      Banned
      • Dec 2020
      • 194

      #3
      Re: What happens to your data after you die

      Imagine dynamos data showing up on eBay with no reserve but its really just a filthy duplicate :y

      If u get a tombstone at ur barriel, you could pull some DaVinci code type shit and hide an external inside it flooding with sm screen shots :U
      Last edited by Rivaloo; 02-24-2021, 06:55 AM.

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      • ( ゚д゚)彡
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Apr 2006
        • 654

        #4
        Re: What happens to your data after you die

        idk i'll be dead by then anyway

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        • trumaestro
          I don't get no respect
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jun 2006
          • 1332

          #5
          Re: What happens to your data after you die

          I know facebook has settings where you can choose to either delete your account or choose someone else to manage it when you pass.

          As far as other data, it'd be similar. Pick someone to either manage it or delete it. I'd assume you can choose what you would like to happen to it like you would any of your other assets. That'd be something you'd draft up with a lawyer when/if you actually write a will.

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          • choof
            Banned
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Nov 2013
            • 8563

            #6
            Re: What happens to your data after you die

            not sure but an ffr quote is definitely going on my tombstone so in some sense that data will live on longer than I will

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            • Hateandhatred
              "The Quebec Steparatist."
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Feb 2011
              • 1974

              #7
              Re: What happens to your data after you die

              I'll take every picture you have of your mcdonalds scale model guy dude
              Last edited by Hateandhatred; 03-21-2021, 06:45 PM.
              Forgot where I put my old sig lol

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              • PrawnSkunk
                Administrator
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Administrator
                • Dec 2007
                • 3907

                #8
                Re: What happens to your data after you die

                You're wise to plan for FFR to outlive you.

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                • DaBackpack
                  ~ お ま ん こ ~
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 918

                  #9
                  Re: What happens to your data after you die

                  If you've published data or content online, you may or may not actually have legal ownership over the IP. If there are certain arty things you've made that you really care about, you should check the legal+privacy policies on those sites.

                  Any unpublished stuff shouldn't be a problem though, if you will it to your estate when you pass.


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                  • rushyrulz
                    Digital Dancing!
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 12985

                    #10
                    Re: What happens to your data after you die

                    Originally posted by PrawnSkunk
                    You're wise to plan for FFR to outlive you.
                    In 2243 we will be in the history books as FFR's founding fathers.
                    Last edited by rushyrulz; 03-22-2021, 08:57 AM.


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                    • sff_writer_dan
                      FFR Player
                      • Aug 2020
                      • 135

                      #11
                      Re: What happens to your data after you die

                      Originally posted by Dynam0
                      Rant incoming

                      Lately I've been considering drafting a will although I'm relatively young and it's probably not necessary as all of my possessions would go to my parents / next of kin. But at some point it's going to be necessary.

                      I've been thinking about all the time I've spent on this site, playing rhythm games, and just video games in general. Sometimes I almost consider the "work" that I've put into these hobbies as accomplishments, things that I would like to leave a legacy behind even after I pass. It might be totally selfish, but as a guy who feels having children is totally not in the cards for me, it's been crossing my mind.

                      My thought is to make a clause within my will that states "person x" shall retain control of my computer hard drives, and also account credentials and data from x,y, and z websites. What they decide to do with this data is up to them but I think that not setting up a system like this could result in some really valuable information that would be lost to time.

                      Am I way off the mark here? It's just something I've been thinking about lately. (dw I don't plan on dying any time soon but you never know with my impulses and proclivity to take risks)

                      If there are any takers who would like to retain my digital assets after I pass let me know :P
                      Leave the physical media to people, like you can specifically will your computer to somebody. The logins and passwords aren't tangible items so you can't leave them to anybody formally, just either tell the people you want to have them, before you die, or write them down in a physical book, and leave the book to the person you want to have the credentials.

                      Almost any other digital asset you have (Like, contents of an MMO character etc) you almost certainly don't actually own, since all of their setups are basically giving you a license to access the service which wouldn't persist past your death.

                      Originally posted by DaBackpack
                      If you've published data or content online, you may or may not actually have legal ownership over the IP. If there are certain arty things you've made that you really care about, you should check the legal+privacy policies on those sites.

                      Any unpublished stuff shouldn't be a problem though, if you will it to your estate when you pass.
                      Canada is a signatory to the Berne Convention so anything creative you produce is automatically under copyright even if you don't register it. If you've submitted it to somewhere else, most policies have you give them an extremely broad but -non-exclusive- right to use your work, so while they'd retain that right, you still retain yours.
                      Last edited by sff_writer_dan; 03-22-2021, 02:11 PM.

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                      • gold stinger
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                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6428

                        #12
                        Re: What happens to your data after you die

                        It's pretty reasonable nowadays to have online/internet information drafted into a will and have some level of split of who gets access to what after you die, and it's fairly common nowadays with celebrities or high priority figures. I think music labels and social media accounts for singers/music artists were some of the first to get internet information the legal treatment, so I don't really see any difference here besides the amount of attention one gets over the other.

                        I would go so far as to say that if some information online was important enough to be considered a 'business', you could essentially leave that 'business' to some other person and they can decide whether or not to undertake that or leave it to some other person. After all, 'what they decide to do with it is up to them'.
                        Last edited by gold stinger; 03-22-2021, 03:08 PM.
                        Originally posted by YoshL
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                        • sff_writer_dan
                          FFR Player
                          • Aug 2020
                          • 135

                          #13
                          Re: What happens to your data after you die

                          Originally posted by gold stinger
                          It's pretty reasonable nowadays to have online/internet information drafted into a will and have some level of split of who gets access to what after you die, and it's fairly common nowadays with celebrities or high priority figures. I think music labels and social media accounts for singers/music artists were some of the first to get internet information the legal treatment, so I don't really see any difference here besides the amount of attention one gets over the other.

                          I would go so far as to say that if some information online was important enough to be considered a 'business', you could essentially leave that 'business' to some other person and they can decide whether or not to undertake that or leave it to some other person. After all, 'what they decide to do with it is up to them'.
                          But I mean like...things like logins and passwords aren't real property so you can't transfer them to somebody else. You can -basically- do it, you just do it by like...putting the information into a physical form and then willing the physical object to the person.

                          You can't leave "Your FFR account" to your kids because it's not an actual -thing-. And I would think that if you gave the logins and passwords to somebody else who used it after you died, places like WoW could actually have grounds to argue that their license to access their services wasn't transferrable by you to somebody else.

                          If a social media account is a component of a company, and you were the owner of the company, and you gave control of the company to somebody in your will, then yeah the social media account would be included as part of "owning the company" but I'm not entirely sure you could classify it as an asset in itself.

                          Basically everything to do with the internet is fraught and nonsense, and the established law is lagging years behind it though, so who knows where it will all end up.

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                          • gold stinger
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                            • Jan 2007
                            • 6428

                            #14
                            Re: What happens to your data after you die

                            Originally posted by sff_writer_dan
                            But I mean like...things like logins and passwords aren't real property so you can't transfer them to somebody else. You can -basically- do it, you just do it by like...putting the information into a physical form and then willing the physical object to the person.

                            You can't leave "Your FFR account" to your kids because it's not an actual -thing-. And I would think that if you gave the logins and passwords to somebody else who used it after you died, places like WoW could actually have grounds to argue that their license to access their services wasn't transferrable by you to somebody else.

                            If a social media account is a component of a company, and you were the owner of the company, and you gave control of the company to somebody in your will, then yeah the social media account would be included as part of "owning the company" but I'm not entirely sure you could classify it as an asset in itself.

                            Basically everything to do with the internet is fraught and nonsense, and the established law is lagging years behind it though, so who knows where it will all end up.
                            There are actual cases of people utilizing a "cyberwill" to accommodate for splitting of accounts, data and online information in an estate. It can be argued that logins/passwords aren't a property, but the content locked behind those logins/passwords very well could be, since it can be anything between a neopets account to a youtube influencer account.

                            Also agree that you would have to check ToS of any accounts you include in a "cyberwill" to make sure that doing such a thing would not violate the guidelines of owning the account.
                            Originally posted by YoshL
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                            • RetardedKidDestroyer
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2021
                              • 5

                              #15
                              Re: What happens to your data after you die

                              Carl eats it. (not that carl)

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