ROLE REVEAL!
Wolves
1. Santa Claus (Sleigh Driver)- WAYWARD VAGABOND
2. Mall Santa (Wolf seer)- SVAZ
3. Santa's Elf- FUNNYGURL555
Humans
4. Mall Cop (One-shot vigilante)- CHARU
5. Michael Jackson (Seer)- THE SUN FAN
6. Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer- XELNYA
7. Buddy the Elf- FUNNIER6
8. Olive, the Other Reindeer- MELLONXCOLLIE
9. Joseph the Carpenter- INDHEART
10. Judas Maccabeus- LIGHTKNIGHT924
11. The Grinch- MIXMASTERLAR
12. Ebenezer Scrooge- DABACKPACK
13. The Bumble- ANTORI
Actions:
Night 1
Sunfan- checks funnier6 [Result: GREEN]
Funnier6- spins dreidel [Result: PEH]
Svaz- checks DaBackpack [Result: RED]
XelNya- spins dreidel [Result: NUN]
Mellonxcollie- spins dreidel [Result: NUN]
Antori- spins dreidel [Result: NUN]
DaBackpack- spins dreidel [Result: PEH]
Synopsis of night 1: Not everyone checked in… a pregame phase would have been helpful but also would have taken another day or two and I think people want to get day 1 started asap (there’s not really much difference between night start and having a confirmation phase imo)
The odds of only nun/peh happening are ˝ * ˝ * ˝ * ˝ * ˝! I simply used random.org’s random number generator from 1 to 4: 1 is nun, 2 is gimel, 3 is hey, 4 is peh.
Day 1
With the master wolf and a vanilla human in a KITB, I could easily have just offed the human to keep the game closer and nobody would know. It turns out I kept too much power in a single wolf and (perhaps crucially) the wolves weren't told the roles of their partners, just the names. I think losing a wolf before the Kinara is fully lit is just too costly in this setup. I also didn't consider the cost of removing N1 kills.
Night 2
inDheart- spins dreidel [result: GIMEL]
MixMasterLar- spins dreidel [result: PEH]
Thesunfan- seers charu [result: BLUE]
Lightknight924- spins dreidel [result: GIMEL]
Svaz- seers thesunfan [result: BLUE]
Wolves- kill inDheart
Antori- spins dreidel [result: PEH]
Mellonxcollie- spins dreidel [result: NUN]
Funnier6- spins dreidel [result: HEY]
Charu- shoots XelNya [result: DEAD]
Dabackpack- spins dreidel [result: GIMEL]
Night 2 synopsis:
Both of the seers got good hits tonight, with sunfan finding charu and svaz finding sunfan. That’s about it, but these *technically* random dreidel spins aren’t doing it for me. I want more variety. At this point it seems wolves are relatively doomed.
I accidentally screwed up and sent charu a vanilla human PM :X I blame the forums Kappa
Day 2
Somehow a failure of communication occurs and MixMasterLar gets insta'd. It was fun to watch, sorry MML :3
Night 3
Funnier6- spins dreidel [result: hey]
Wolves- kill funnier6 [result: DEAD]
Svaz- seer Raeko [result: GREEN]
Thesunfan- seer svaz [result: RED]
Antori- spin dreidel [result: nun]
Mellonxcollie- spin dreidel [result: nun]
Night 3 synopsis: things continue to happen- wolves kill funnier “out of spite” and also to work towards a game plan of removing green vanillas.
Day 3:
Svaz is revealed to be red and that's pretty much it. With Svaz going down it's funnygurl vs the world. I don't have high hopes for anyone vs the world here.
Night 4:
Thesunfan- seer Nakah [result: GREEN]
Nakah- one shot role seering on DaBackpack [result: Vanilla Human]
DaBackpack- one shot role seering on Raeko [result: Vanilla Human]
Funnygurl- roleblock DaBackpack, kill Antori
Night 4 synopsis:
Well, maybe if FG had killed sunfan and blocked nakah there was a chance there, but realistically funnygurl was dying over everyone else anyway just for being less towny.
Overall synopsis:
Haha my bad
wolves got super unlucky with basically everything EXCEPT for the intentional RNG. This game was originally designed to be hosted on NSM, and I think that if I was designing a game specifically to be played on FFR I wouldn't have made some of the design choices I did. Typically NSM is less willing to lynch reds when there's a <50% chance of wolf there, so maybe I should have added a fourth red player to more strongly disincentivize red lynches here.
I also put too much power into master wolf, since I figured wolves would prioritize saving numbers for when the kinara went off (a perfect game for wolves would mean they reach parity on Night 4 with that extra janitor kill), but they lost both a number for parity and the extra kill, which was probably way too punishing. Also, the sleigh driver ability never got used so I basically forgot how it even worked.
The dreidels ended up being fine, with only 2 "confirmed humans". The real point of the dreidels was to keep humans active, since a lot of times people getting a vanilla human role PM feel like they have nothing to do and no way to solve a game. In the hands of FFR they probably became a little too potent, but the idea was so entrenched and entwined with the concept of dreidels I couldn't really think of an alternative.
Player synopsis:
Wolves
Humans
Could the game have been better balanced? Definitely. Would it have been as absurd or fun? Subjective, but naaaaaaaah. In hindsight I would have made the three wolves equally powerful instead of stacking it topheavy and making the third wolf vanilla.
The dreidels were risky, but I think it was tough to balance them any better. Consider a bastard game where the seerings may not always be accurate...
Anyway, thanks everyone for playing, and the next time I host the game will be much tamer by comparison.
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Wolves
1. Santa Claus (Sleigh Driver)- WAYWARD VAGABOND
2. Mall Santa (Wolf seer)- SVAZ
3. Santa's Elf- FUNNYGURL555
Humans
4. Mall Cop (One-shot vigilante)- CHARU
5. Michael Jackson (Seer)- THE SUN FAN
6. Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer- XELNYA
7. Buddy the Elf- FUNNIER6
8. Olive, the Other Reindeer- MELLONXCOLLIE
9. Joseph the Carpenter- INDHEART
10. Judas Maccabeus- LIGHTKNIGHT924
11. The Grinch- MIXMASTERLAR
12. Ebenezer Scrooge- DABACKPACK
13. The Bumble- ANTORI
Actions:
Night 1
Sunfan- checks funnier6 [Result: GREEN]
Funnier6- spins dreidel [Result: PEH]
Svaz- checks DaBackpack [Result: RED]
XelNya- spins dreidel [Result: NUN]
Mellonxcollie- spins dreidel [Result: NUN]
Antori- spins dreidel [Result: NUN]
DaBackpack- spins dreidel [Result: PEH]
Synopsis of night 1: Not everyone checked in… a pregame phase would have been helpful but also would have taken another day or two and I think people want to get day 1 started asap (there’s not really much difference between night start and having a confirmation phase imo)
The odds of only nun/peh happening are ˝ * ˝ * ˝ * ˝ * ˝! I simply used random.org’s random number generator from 1 to 4: 1 is nun, 2 is gimel, 3 is hey, 4 is peh.
Day 1
With the master wolf and a vanilla human in a KITB, I could easily have just offed the human to keep the game closer and nobody would know. It turns out I kept too much power in a single wolf and (perhaps crucially) the wolves weren't told the roles of their partners, just the names. I think losing a wolf before the Kinara is fully lit is just too costly in this setup. I also didn't consider the cost of removing N1 kills.
Night 2
inDheart- spins dreidel [result: GIMEL]
MixMasterLar- spins dreidel [result: PEH]
Thesunfan- seers charu [result: BLUE]
Lightknight924- spins dreidel [result: GIMEL]
Svaz- seers thesunfan [result: BLUE]
Wolves- kill inDheart
Antori- spins dreidel [result: PEH]
Mellonxcollie- spins dreidel [result: NUN]
Funnier6- spins dreidel [result: HEY]
Charu- shoots XelNya [result: DEAD]
Dabackpack- spins dreidel [result: GIMEL]
Night 2 synopsis:
Both of the seers got good hits tonight, with sunfan finding charu and svaz finding sunfan. That’s about it, but these *technically* random dreidel spins aren’t doing it for me. I want more variety. At this point it seems wolves are relatively doomed.
I accidentally screwed up and sent charu a vanilla human PM :X I blame the forums Kappa
Day 2
Somehow a failure of communication occurs and MixMasterLar gets insta'd. It was fun to watch, sorry MML :3
Night 3
Funnier6- spins dreidel [result: hey]
Wolves- kill funnier6 [result: DEAD]
Svaz- seer Raeko [result: GREEN]
Thesunfan- seer svaz [result: RED]
Antori- spin dreidel [result: nun]
Mellonxcollie- spin dreidel [result: nun]
Night 3 synopsis: things continue to happen- wolves kill funnier “out of spite” and also to work towards a game plan of removing green vanillas.
Day 3:
Svaz is revealed to be red and that's pretty much it. With Svaz going down it's funnygurl vs the world. I don't have high hopes for anyone vs the world here.
Night 4:
Thesunfan- seer Nakah [result: GREEN]
Nakah- one shot role seering on DaBackpack [result: Vanilla Human]
DaBackpack- one shot role seering on Raeko [result: Vanilla Human]
Funnygurl- roleblock DaBackpack, kill Antori
Night 4 synopsis:
Well, maybe if FG had killed sunfan and blocked nakah there was a chance there, but realistically funnygurl was dying over everyone else anyway just for being less towny.
Overall synopsis:
Haha my bad
wolves got super unlucky with basically everything EXCEPT for the intentional RNG. This game was originally designed to be hosted on NSM, and I think that if I was designing a game specifically to be played on FFR I wouldn't have made some of the design choices I did. Typically NSM is less willing to lynch reds when there's a <50% chance of wolf there, so maybe I should have added a fourth red player to more strongly disincentivize red lynches here.
I also put too much power into master wolf, since I figured wolves would prioritize saving numbers for when the kinara went off (a perfect game for wolves would mean they reach parity on Night 4 with that extra janitor kill), but they lost both a number for parity and the extra kill, which was probably way too punishing. Also, the sleigh driver ability never got used so I basically forgot how it even worked.
The dreidels ended up being fine, with only 2 "confirmed humans". The real point of the dreidels was to keep humans active, since a lot of times people getting a vanilla human role PM feel like they have nothing to do and no way to solve a game. In the hands of FFR they probably became a little too potent, but the idea was so entrenched and entwined with the concept of dreidels I couldn't really think of an alternative.
Player synopsis:
Wolves
Humans
Could the game have been better balanced? Definitely. Would it have been as absurd or fun? Subjective, but naaaaaaaah. In hindsight I would have made the three wolves equally powerful instead of stacking it topheavy and making the third wolf vanilla.
The dreidels were risky, but I think it was tough to balance them any better. Consider a bastard game where the seerings may not always be accurate...
Anyway, thanks everyone for playing, and the next time I host the game will be much tamer by comparison.
SEND ME GAMES
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