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  • MrRubix
    FFR Player
    • Sep 2026
    • 8340

    #91
    Re: Oops I broke the laws of math.

    round one


    fight
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

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    • phe0nixblade
      Praise the sun mofo
      • Sep 2005
      • 4281

      #92
      Re: Oops I broke the laws of math.

      all this math
      its making my head hurt
      **** you guys

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      • samurai7694
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        FFR Simfile Author
        • Aug 2008
        • 4640

        #93
        Re: Oops I broke the laws of math.

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        • MrRubix
          FFR Player
          • Sep 2026
          • 8340

          #94
          Re: Oops I broke the laws of math.



          </thread>
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

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          • samurai7694
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            FFR Simfile Author
            • Aug 2008
            • 4640

            #95
            Re: Oops I broke the laws of math.

            Originally posted by MrRubix
            the singer's eyes are creepy

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            • samurai7694
              바보
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Aug 2008
              • 4640

              #96
              Re: Oops I broke the laws of math.

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              • cry4eternity
                ~ added for cuteness
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jan 2007
                • 979

                #97
                Re: Oops I broke the laws of math.

                Fine. I guess there's nothing to argue because there's a series that represents .999... that converges to 1?

                But what about the proofs in the OP? I don't think anybody in the thread definitively posted answers to them.

                Proof 1:
                You're taking the positive square root of the left side and the negative square root of the right side.

                Proof 2:
                You're dividing by zero.

                Proof 3:
                Those properties of square roots only work for positive numbers.

                Don't know enough about series to answer the rest . I need more maths classes.

                I'm retired

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                • bLasTamos
                  FFR Veteran
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 137

                  #98
                  Re: Oops I broke the laws of math.

                  4:
                  There's one "-1" missing in the end.

                  5:
                  This one is just stupid, x is not a function so you can't take it's derivative.

                  6:
                  They assume x * x is x+x+x+x+... which is false if x is negative. I don't think this is why the proof fails but I don't care. I think it's the same as proof 5.

                  7:
                  The sum S is infinite, it doesn't make any sesne to say S-A is 4S because nothing can be the 4 times more infinite than something else.

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                  • Ghakimx
                    Cutie&Handshaking Sounds
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 1594

                    #99
                    Re: Oops I broke the laws of math.

                    What's two plus two divided by two?

                    I AM ASHAMED OF MY STUPIDITY AND MUST COMMIT SEPPUKU. FORGIVE ME, FFR.


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                    • PhaeL v2
                      FFR Player
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 942

                      #100
                      Re: Oops I broke the laws of math.

                      Originally posted by Ghakimx
                      What's two plus two divided by two?
                      k, it's possibly a "joke" question, but there are two answers for this, just sayin'
                      Originally posted by Emo_Saur_
                      Rapha, you're a cry baby!

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                      • revolutionomega
                        FFR Veteran
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 2240

                        #101
                        Re: Oops I broke the laws of math.

                        either 2 or 3.
                        Duh. Haven't really learned about series and such yet.
                        "AW MAN, WE SUCK AGAIN!"
                        - Rob Schneider, The Waterboy (1998)

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                        • PhaeL v2
                          FFR Player
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 942

                          #102
                          Re: Oops I broke the laws of math.

                          Originally posted by revolutionomega
                          either 2 or 3.
                          Yeah. Parentheses are like commas in mathematics.
                          Originally posted by Emo_Saur_
                          Rapha, you're a cry baby!

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                          • ieatyourlvllol
                            FFR Player
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 3221

                            #103
                            Re: Oops I broke the laws of math.

                            Originally posted by MrRubix
                            15.67999... = 15.68

                            Not "approximately."

                            Not "close"

                            EQUAL

                            DISCUSSSsss
                            Originally posted by MrRubix
                            round one


                            fight
                            IEAT USES SUPER - MATHRYUKEN

                            ----------

                            Firstly, remember that we can't really interpret 0.000...1 as a finite decimal value, but rather, the point that by definition bounds the limit of 1/n as n gets infinitely large. This point is of course 0 (which will be subsequently proven).

                            For any two values x1 and x2, x1/n can be made arbitrarily close to x2/n by taking n to be a sufficiently large number. Thus,

                            lim (n→∞) x1/n = lim (n→∞) x2/n, for all x

                            Since x is a constant, we can extend the notion and say that

                            lim (n→∞) x1/n = lim (n→∞) x2/n for all x =>
                            x1[lim (n→∞) 1/n] = x2[lim (n→∞) 1/n] for all x

                            Thus, taking x2 to be 0,

                            x1[lim (n→∞) 1/n] = x2[lim (n→∞) 1/n] =>
                            x1[lim (n→∞) 1/n] = 0[lim (n→∞) 1/n] =>
                            x1[lim (n→∞) 1/n] = 0 =>
                            lim (n→∞) x1/n = 0

                            And that's why lim (n→∞) x/n = 0 for all x. Proceeding with the proof...

                            Taking x1 to be 1,

                            lim (n→∞) x1/n = 0 =>
                            lim (n→∞) 1/n = 0 =>

                            From the aforementioned interpretation, 0.000…1 is equivalent to lim (n→∞) 1/n. Thus,

                            lim (n→∞) 1/n = 0 =>
                            0.000...1 = 0

                            And finally getting back to the problem at hand...

                            Since lim (n→∞) 1/n = 0.000...1 = 0 = lim (n→0) n,

                            15.68 - lim (n→∞) 1/n = 15.68 - lim (n→0) n =>
                            15.68 - 0.000...1 = 15.68 - 0 =>
                            15.67999... = 15.68

                            ----------

                            IT'S SUPER EFFECTIVE!
                            Last edited by ieatyourlvllol; 10-19-2009, 03:05 PM. Reason: fixed a slight omission

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                            • Ghakimx
                              Cutie&Handshaking Sounds
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 1594

                              #104
                              Re: Oops I broke the laws of math.

                              Originally posted by PhaeL v2
                              Yeah. Parentheses are like commas in mathematics.
                              But its only 1 answer, unless stated otherwise.

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                              • bluguerrilla
                                FFR Player
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 3966

                                #105
                                Re: Oops I broke the laws of math.

                                Originally posted by bLasTamos
                                4:
                                There's one "-1" missing in the end.

                                7:
                                The sum S is infinite, it doesn't make any sesne to say S-A is 4S because nothing can be the 4 times more infinite than something else.
                                No, you just can't rearrange infinite series that don't conditionally converge because you can make it equal whatever you want (not to mention divergent series).

                                ieat wouldn't 10^-n have been easier? :P
                                Last edited by bluguerrilla; 10-19-2009, 11:29 AM.

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