The Presidential Debates

[devonin]

Re: The Presidential Debates

They're waaaay more than 0.04% of the vote.

Even the bad main third party candidate can usually pull 5-7% of the vote in a general election.

[andy-o24]

Re: The Presidential Debates

Y'all not gonna mention Donald slaying Hillary with that "'cause you'd be in jail" line? Forget that he called her the Devil, yo. That debate was lit af.

Edit: Fat check, btw.

Pretty shitty debate, but funny with the jabs. I think Donald stabilized after the weekend, and Hillary either failed to or tactically didn't shut down Trump.

-o24

[tosh]

Re: The Presidential Debates

They're waaaay more than 0.04% of the vote.

Even the bad main third party candidate can usually pull 5-7% of the vote in a general election.

I think we have very different definitions of 'usually'. Since 1960, only 3 third party candidates have received at least 3% of the popular vote in a presidential election. George Wallace got 13.5% in 1968, John Anderson got 6.6% in 1980, and Ross Perot got 18.9% in 1992 and 8.4% in 1996. So that is 4 out of the last 14 elections. The median popular vote total for the best performing third party candidates in that timeframe is 0.95%. So in a normal presidential election, we can expect the best third party candidate to garner 0.95% of the popular vote.

[MixMasterLar]

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I didn't watch this one.


Heard Trump brought several women to testify that Bill raped them and that Hillary pulled strings to cover it up, but no one seems to be talking about that really.

I think people's unwillingness to consider voting third party, on the grounds that there are not enough people considering, are a big deal on how we came to....whatever the hell this election is

[Dinglesberry]

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That feel when you can't win with your views and beliefs so the only way you can win is by discrediting others, gg politics

[shenjoku]

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That feel when you can't win with your views and beliefs so the only way you can win is by discrediting others, gg politics

This pretty much sums up why I fucking hate politics...

[DotKritic]

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A survey I found: http://www.survio.com/survey/d/N4X1T2K2V5T2R2N0N

[Rapta]

Re: The Presidential Debates

is there any way to review the results of the survey?

[VisD]

Re: The Presidential Debates

unregulated online surveys
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[devonin]

The "who won" polls from the first debate were overwhelmingly gamed from computers in Russia. They don't mean anything.

And speaking of polls

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/up...ages.html?_r=1

[FoJaR]

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kind of. if third party candidates can take enough votes away from one of the two major party candidates, they could flip a state. as improbable as it seems, i would keep my eyes on utah.

and even if it doesnt change the outcome of the overall election, or even any individual states, it could serve as a warning shot to both parties, which you could argue would change the status quo.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-evan-mcmullin-could-win-utah-and-the-presidency/

[devonin]

Re: The Presidential Debates

Interesting, but such an actually practically tiny chance that I don't see it at all.

Too many states have Bernie as an official write-in, and Johnson has enough of the vote that weirdness actually more likely means Trump winning close states due to vote splitting with the write-in Sanders than a tie has of happening.

[FoJaR]

Re: The Presidential Debates

of him becoming president? yeah that's probably not happening.

of him winning utah, or making it fall to clinton? coin flip between one of those two and trump imo.

[andy-o24]

Re: The Presidential Debates

Mr. Trump, I am not a potted plant!

-o24

[YoshL]

Re: The Presidential Debates

trump isn't orange anymore

probablly because he hasn't been able to use his tanning bed in a while now