TWG XLVI: For the King!

[FictionJunction]

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P.s Happy Birthday Dbp

[flawofhumanity]

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I think I've confirmed myself to the point that the guardian should come to me.


Also, I'm compiling an item list so we can see where everything is/where it goes each night. Again, I think I know a thief so that is a huge step in item awareness. If you wouldn't mind, AIM me or leave a PM stating which item(s) you had/have (both preferably) and we can use it to figure things out.

[roundbox]

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Expanding onto Yesssss's idea of the true 16 person game with the thieves, I'm pretty sure the thieves would like to lay low, keeping themselves "off" of lynch/wolf lists.
"Laying low" is also a technique that has been used several times by wolves (hey isn't this just obvious as hell), so if a player chooses to lay low, they could be the 3rd or wolf party.
Maybe the thieves will play aggressive, who knows.

These are all just assumed scenarios.

[pntballa18]

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There was a good amount of trickery involved.

As manti said, I'm waiting until flaw is confirmed as seer to tell him. The easiest way of this getting done, imo, is for everyone to say "not seer" like we tried earlier.

[xObserveRx]

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Um... I think I explained the jist of it pretty well...

[FictionJunction]

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or maybe I just didn't understand it.

[FictionJunction]

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I'm personally staying aay from the whole items business until I have one.

on Talisman: in the end it doesn't matter which occurred (guardian or item) since both make you look human anyway. Xero''s theory is too far fetched to even consider.

[xObserveRx]

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First of all, why would people just be TELLING pnt what items they have? Doesn't that seem a little reckless?

Maybe I just play to defensively.

[DarkManticoreX2]

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Just a quick public service announcment.

DO NOT talk to Paintballa18 about your items or etc untll Flaw and myself have confirmed he has any legitimate info he claims to have.

Furthermore, If you have talked to him between now and 9:00 PM last night about items (when he claimed to have info on several different people's items) tell flaw.

Pnt says he's waiting for flaw to be confirmed as the seer, but we (flaw and myself) both think he's full of BS. Untill faw says "ok, got the list pnt says he has" refrain from telling him about any items.

[talisman]

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for what it's worth, it has come to my attention that I was, indeed, guarded last night.

[xObserveRx]

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Alright, it's pretty much fact lucky charms are one time use items. Any more than this and the game would have invincible people.

So with that being said, I don't think it's THAT much of a stretch to consider what X3ro is saying. If one of the wolves started with a lucky charm, it wouldn't be that hard to imagine them setting up a fake guarding on one of their own to gain human trust.

Also, doing so would give a false sense of safety to whoever they decide to pass the lucky charm to the next night (as you have no idea if an item is already used up when you receive it.)

I believe this is what X3ro was attempting to say.

That aside, Either Talis did get guarded before Flaw came out, which seems pretty dumb considering (as far as I know, you're able to change your pick right up until either the last night action is in, or night is over). If you are able to do so, the guard was either inactive and didn't or hasn't returned to the thread yet, or is a complete dumbass and didn't switch over to the seer.

But if this isn't the case, I believe Talis was holding either a lucky charm, or something to the extent of an item that saves you from a wolfing or whatever. I find it incredibly hard to believe that anyone who had an item that would protect someone or yourself from harm at night WOULDN'T keep it for themselves, especially on night one.

Unless the item HAD to be used on someone other than yourself, it would seem that there's either someone who really likes Talis or really doesn't care to be in the game, or Talis had an item... or Talis was guarded.

So I guess this post solved no real mysteries. I just felt like sharing some ideas.

[FictionJunction]

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I was thinking tha the lucky charm isn't an item that you can literally use (thus giving yu the ability to target someone with it). Just from the context of what the charm does, I figured the player was just automatically saved from a kill if they had it at the time; a reactive item of sorts.

I'll assume this isn't illegal since it's public knowledge and information given to us by the host.

LUCKY CHARM (?).

Possessing this item will allow you to successfully avoid being killed once. Once used the LUCKY CHARM, becomes ineffective but is still passed as normal.

NOTE - if a bodyguard is protecting you, and you hold a lucky charm, the charm's power will still fade if you are attacked, even though the attack would have failed anyway!

* Some items are not usable, and are passive

I figured it was a simple 1 + 1 = 2, though I might be wrong. This is the only reason I figured Talisman was a thief or one of the other few players with a lucky charm.

[talisman]

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I'm leaning towards the first option there or someone deciding to use a lucky charm on me (if lucky charms are active) although why someone would instead of keeping it I have no idea.

[Kilgamayan]

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I think it's perfectly reasonable to think the guardian picked talisman. One of two things could have happened:

- The guardian picked talisman before flaw came out (hardly a bad choice) and simply didn't read the thread again before the day started.
- The guardian picked talisman because they the wolves assumed flaw to be forbidden territory and went with someone else. How often is a public figure attacked on their first night of being a public figure with a guardian in the game? Off the top of my head, I can think of maybe one time in our 45-game history, and I can't remember which game it was. talisman becomes the obvious wolf choice after that (seriously, look at this game's player list, there's like no one else worth attacking), so one clever guardian selection later and we have ourselves a save.

[talisman]

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was anyone stolen from last night?