TWG XVII: Roasted Fanclub Chicken with Intrigue (Day 7)

[Tasselfoot]

Yes Jurs, they are. Same as if Panda said "Guido is a wolf" or Neon said "nForcer is a wolf"... because people know each other and how they act. If you go back and look at the signups for TWG 1, I said that I thought the game would be hard because there is no body language. I still feel that. Its internet poker vs live poker. Two completely different games.

So we're all playing Internet poker and sitting at the same table.... but Whorli and I are at the same table AND in the same house. So I can practically see her hands... well, not so much... but I can get the body language and mannerisms from her that I can't get from anyone else at the table. And from that, I'm giving that information to EVERYONE, to help all of us against a common threat.

Besides, if tomorrow Blah says that there are still 4 wolves... you can lynch me. You'll wind up killing 2 humans, but... such is my price for being so wrong.

[JurseyRider734]

*sigh* Alright, Tass. I'll put my vote on whorli for now.

[HansSky]

Although I'm not too comfortable with this, I'll place my trust in Tass and vote whorli.

[lightdarkness]

Question: If whorli is a blue and is lynched, do we find out if she was a blue? Or do we only find out if that person is wolfed...

[Tasselfoot]

- When a blue role is killed, either by lynch or night kill, everyone will know. They will even be told which role it is. This is because it fits with the story I have planned.

[Tps222]

Well, i'm going to be out for the rest oftheday, so I am going to vote whorli. I have a bad feeling about this, but I plan on watching guido very carefully.

[Kefit]

This game day has been kind of frustrating for me, as I feel that there is a lot of info on the table, but that I am completely failing to do anything with it.

Blah is probably the psychic, as the real psychic probably would have revealed himself by now if he wasn't, and thrown us into a war of who we believe, with the likely end result of just lynching them both.

Tps' game has given me a pretty good feeling that he is not a wolf, as I would be very surprised if he would put himself out into the public eye like this if he was. Then again, I've learned from the past that I can be wrong even when I am almost certain about something (see TWG XV, where I was certain that Chardish was the master wolf), so I am going to have to be careful to not let this logic protect him too much.

And then we have the Whorli thing. Tass' case against her makes sense in my mind. But it also strictly limited to the personal life of a player outside the game, and furthermore is a judgement that, of everyone here, only Tass is really qualified to make. Thus, I niether want to get involved or feel qualified to do so, so I will not.

Unfortunately, none of this information really leads me towards wolves, or even suspicions, which is the kind of information that we really need to win. So I have been kind of stuck. Thankfully, people started voting today, which gives me a bit more info to work with.

And for now I am going to have to throw a vote Jurs' way - she seemed adamant against voting for Whorli, but then when she saw that it was a lost cause, she quietly switched over to voting for her.

Something about Guido has also been bugging me, although I can't really put my finger on it. I guess I will just have to watch him a bit closer over the next few days.

[whorlichan]

I am leeching internet from someone else and I don't know how long it will last, so here goes quickly:

I am very upset that the whole reason behind everyone's votes for me is Tass. And for this very reason, whether I am lynched or wolfed or survive this game, I will not play again in a game where he is playing as well. It's not fair to me or to him, and definitely not fair to any of the rest of you.

That aside, I really do wish you all would find a DIFFERENT reason to vote for than the fact that Mike thinks I'm a wolf. (Insert personal life here: He obviously isn't sure...he keeps asking me even though he says he KNOWS.) I have nothing to defend myself with besides the fact that I haven't acted any different from how I always play, and that once again (as usual) I'm in the process of moving in and building stuff and basically having no free time in which to defend myself anyway.

Go with your guts, guys. For now (since I don't know if I'll be able to get back on) I'll put my vote on Blah, since I know nobody else will lynch him and I don't want to get poor Jursey lynched by accident for trying to help me out.

[Tasselfoot]

Babe... I only keep asking to see if you'll change your mind and stop lying to me. Plus, that is complete BS that you won't play in another game with me. That is like Guido/Panda not playing in a game with each other. Don't be pissed off that I can tell you're a wolf right away... that isn't my fault.

Plus... you put your "safe" vote on Blah of all people... why not on me? Blah, who has come out as the Psychic would seem to be the LAST person to get a vote today... besides, why not vote Jurs to even TRY and save yourself? But no, you vote Blah instead, which is completely random, completely retarded, and downright.... bad. That should give people more reason to vote for you too, beyond my personal reasons.

[whorlichan]

a) a vote on you would be like revenge and that's petty and stupid
b) a vote on jursey will not help my case
c) NO ONE ELSE WILL VOTE FOR BLAH FOR THAT VERY REASON
d) it has nothing to do with whether I have a role or not. our real-life interactions are either advantageous or detrimental, and either way are unfair to introduce into the game.

[evilbutterfly]

eb defended her to some extent

That was more anti-Tass than it was pro-Whorli, for the record. As I said before, I don't like it when I feel Tass is taking over the game. Also, I just really don't like this situation...anytime the game is a situation where it's one person's word directly against the other person's I really don't like it, because the rest of us have to choose and follow blindly. I love Whorli's idea of voluntarily not playing when somebody you know IRL is. It just makes sense and levels the playing field.

Because I'm so thoroughly pissed at this whole situation and its unfairness (I REALLY REALLY REALLY hate unfair advantages. If I win/lose, I want it to be because I deserved that win/loss, not because my side or the other cheated or had some unfair advantage. I see knowing somebody in real life as a big fat ugly unfair advantage.), I'm considering not voting at all. Then there's all that junk about phantoms and getting punished for them, so I can't do that. I would self vote, but that's not allowed. So how about I vote for Jurs for..."flip-flopping" her views, as somebody above me pointed out.

[GuidoHunter]

Wait, why is everyone watching me? Is it because I didn't explain my vote very well? Well, I was in a hurry and planned on it, but suffice it to say that I trust Tass's judgment on whorli. He's putting himself into a position of self-sacrifice if he's wrong, and that's not something he would do unless he is SURE of his ideas.

I don't see why people are so uneasy about this. I mean, I guess I'm putting a lot of faith in Tass's personal judgments by doing this, but I trust him on this matter by looking at what he's said and the consequences if he's lying.

By the way, the same really doesn't apply to Amanda and me because we've both fooled the other before. And...

That is like Guido/Panda not playing in a game with each other.

Note that we haven't played together since her ban and likely won't play together again.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[Tps222]

I see no reason to vote for jurs. She only flip-flopped because she was being criticized for defending Whorli. I have talked to her on numerous occasions, and I really think she is human. On that note, I feel the same for Whorli, i really think that Tass and Whorli are human, with Whorli as a blue possibility. Though, guido, on the otherhand, has been really sitting weird with me. Reading on his past games as wolves, i.e manhunt, he was quite talkative in the beginning of day 1, then slowly died out. He also talked a lot about the kills from the night before, which he did here as well. He has been stating the obvious, and hasn't given too much of his own opinion, except on my whole pm ordeal. Thus, my vote is going with Guidohunter.

[hydrojakep]

I really hate doing this, but i'm fairly sure whorli is not a blue. If she is a wolf, then tass is right and i believe we can trust his future judgement. I feel no regret for voting whorli, although i do feel a little regretful for increasing tasselfoot's twg-penis size.

[evilbutterfly]

Note that we haven't played together since her ban and likely won't play together again

What!? She got banned?! What did I miss!?