TWC Rules, Policies, Etc.

[rzr]

Re: TWC Rules, Policies, Etc.

Ok, sorry for the dramatics here but whatever. I told argo this thread was going on and what's in it right now, if even he doesn't want to reply screw it.
Seriously, I'm sick of it. You guys can have him play as much as you want. I quit. Tell me who wants to take over hosting and I'll give them the roles of the players and what not.

Really though, let the guy who admittedly hacked another players account WHILE a game was going play. Whatever.

[devonin]

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So because the rules apply to everybody equally, you're going to quit in a huff, including abandoning a game that you're in the middle of hosting?

[rzr]

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Yup. I'm sick of it. Shall make a list here?
Ok, I've had fj on my ass constantly though we had a good talk.
I had thunder COMPLETELY lose it on me in Chit Chat. Though it looks like we're doing better now.
I've been accused of hacking.
I've HAD my account hacked.
I have sully saying my game sucks.
I have lito being a dick on AIM.
I have heavy saying I'm a ****ty played.
Now I have you to put up with?

Yeah, rofl, seems like a fair trade. If you guys want my proof why we should be aloud in together, I'll gladly still give it to benefit the others. But as of now, it seems like I'm not wanted, so why should I stay? o.O

[Makilaz]

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Give it. You've done nothing to prove that you should be allowed to play the same game in Argo apart from tell us that it's already been done, and overall bitching about TWG in general. You claim you have proof; stop complaining and give it.

[devonin]

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What's the proof you could possibly provide anyway? A list of games you played in where you promise that you didn't share any info? It is pretty much physically impossible to prove that you aren't going to do something in the future which is what the purpose of applying the rule to everybody is.

Also: Allowed. Sweet Jesus.

[GuidoHunter]

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In no way should IRL friends be allowed to play, regardless of how many times it's been done.

We used to allow that (read: "we've done it before, so why stop us now?"), and several accounts of game-breaking issues arose, such as LD IMming me with "hey, fellow mason" when Amanda was reading over my shoulder at my computer. As such, we barred that from happening again.

Nobody cares how many times y'all broke the rules and played together, rzr; that's ancient history. We're saying now, though, that you can't anymore.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[rzr]

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There's technically no way to PROVE we're aloud to play together. I can do two things; prove why I should be admitted into the TWG's instead, or make a case for flexing the rule in this particular case. I'll do both.

For why myself and argo should be aloud to play together:

The only adequate defense is that it's been done before. I looked into it and remembered that einherjar and halleysfifthconcerto both knew each other while playing, as well as pnt.
Then there's the fact that heavy said she's played with her brother, a far more closely connected team than argo and I.

That's all I have for that particular part of the 'why we should be able to play together' piece. Except I can propose a solution that does not end in taking one of us out.

Like I previously stated, make any information obtained off of the internet illegal and unusable. Also, provide a penalty for those who do attempt to present evidence or information TWG related to a game that was obtained in real life.
Set a precedent for future players and current ones. For example, say I tell argo I'm a wolf and he tells the thread I said it. Make an automatic replacement and game ban.


As to why I should be aloud in and not him, I'd really rather not stab my friend in the back, but if I had to I'd simply say because of the hacking incident. Though it'd be more fair to say who ever signs up first gets in.

Nonetheless, I still say we should be aloud to play together.

[rzr]

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It's not proof, it's a compromise. I'd figure you guys could be big enough to do that. If not, you're right. I'll finish my hosting because it's fair to the other players. But argo got me into this game, he deserves it more.

[devonin]

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1/ We already said that it matters ZERO whether it has been done before or not. There was a time when slavery was legal, and when it was being made illegal all over the world, was "But it has been allowed before" a good defense? Extreme example, but you've done what's called an appeal to tradition, and it's logically worthless.

2/ It is impossible to prove that information you have -didn't- come from knowing someone IRL. You just claim to have had an AIM conversation and suddenly you have legality. It is much easier to simply forbid it than to try and police it every time it comes up.

3/ You'd rather not stab your friend in the back, but you will in order to keep yourself in and playing? Nobody is saying you two can't play TWG, they are saying you can't play in the -same- game at the -same- time. How is that so difficult to deal with?

4/ Allowed, for the love of God.

Edit
5/ EDIT don't double post. This isn't a TWG game thread, you're allowed.
6/ Once more for reiteration YOU ARE BOTH ALLOWED TO PLAY THE WEREWOLF GAME YOU ARE JUST NOT ALLOWED TO BOTH PLAY IN THE SAME ONE AT THE SAME TIME.

Heck, just take turns alternating between TWG and jTWG and the problem solves itself.

[argo15]

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i really don't mind taking turns going between twg and jtwg. It's just a game and it isn't worth it to get rzr mad at me. He's my friend.

[GuidoHunter]

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The only adequate defense is that it's been done before.

It's been done before...

AND PEOPLE BROKE THE GAME BY INADVERTENTLY OR INTENTIONALLY CHEATING

YES, it's possible to play just fine, as you've pointed out by listing those people who (presumably) didn't cheat.

However, we don't want to take that risk for the sake of everyone else.

Suck it up like the rest of us did and alternate games.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[rzr]

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Look, you've played one game. Technically not even that until it's over. Just let the TWC take it from here. No rudeness intended, it's just getting out of hand.

[devonin]

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Haha are you playing the "Devonin isn't allowed to have an opinion because he's not a veteran" card? Like 4srs?

[GuidoHunter]

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Fine, take my word for it, rzr. A dozen or two games and membership on the TWC; it's not gonna happen.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[rzr]

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Dude, I'm not mad at you. I think this whole thing is retarded and completely pointless, but I'm not mad. I'm frustrated with 2 super moderators ganging up on me, but it's... yeah I've got nothing to say to be optimistic, rofl.

Ok, I'm tired of arguing about it. Honestly, I don't friggin care enough to fight with you guys about it. See ya later