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  • hi19hi19
    lol happy
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Oct 2005
    • 12194

    #31
    Re: "recovered" scores from saved replays

    Originally posted by noname219
    This is temporary.
    You seem to know what's going on.
    Could we get maybe an estimate for how long this will last?
    An explanation for people who don't know how the scoreboards work, perhaps?
    Is there a possibility of increased number of replay slots to offset the fact a lot of people are/soon will be capped?
    Perhaps a front page post explaining all this, or at least mentioning it at all?

    I mean yes I could ask all this in staff Slack if I wanted to, but what about the people who are like, not devs... c'mon guys
    Last edited by hi19hi19; 04-23-2015, 11:19 PM.


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    • noname219
      FFR Wiki Admin
      • May 2007
      • 1694

      #32
      Re: "recovered" scores from saved replays

      Originally posted by hi19hi19
      You seem to know what's going on.
      Could we get maybe an estimate for how long this will last?
      An explanation for people who don't know how the scoreboards work, perhaps?
      Is there a possibility of increased number of replay slots to offset the fact a lot of people are/soon will be capped?
      Perhaps a front page post explaining all this, or at least mentioning it at all?

      I mean yes I could ask all this in staff Slack if I wanted to, but what about the people who are like, not devs... c'mon guys
      All I know was already posted in the general channel in Slack. Replays cannot be deleted to track users that have a score registered on rates (just a preventive measure, that information is stored elsewhere apparently). I don't know how long or where we currently are with the recovery attempts.

      Imo, I think having 150? slots is more than enough but I'm not against increasing that to 200 or 300. Having an option to download your own replays would be interesting as well.

      I won't hide the fact that when I first saw that thread, I considered completely stopping the Manual Score Recovery thing. Even thinking about leaving the website at this point, I'm really disappointed by all of this. I won't do it because I do care about the community and I do care about how scoring data is treated here. Am I the only one that cares about all of this ? I'm sure devs do, but how can we know if they don't express themselves ?

      These past months, I've felt like defending staff because they are the easy target and we don't see the amount of work they have to do - only a small percentage of us kind of know what's going on behind the scenes. Gonna speak for myself there, but the amount of shit I have to manage goes completely unnoticed, and it doesn't phase me at this point because I'm used to it. But I mean, everytime someone makes a mention or thank me for the work I'm making here, goddamn it makes me feel good and that's the only reason why I'm still here. The ONLY way people are gonna take your side is when you're informing and telling the community about the stuff you're handling because how would they know ?
      Last edited by noname219; 04-24-2015, 12:08 AM.

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      • Charu
        Snivy! Dohoho!
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Mar 2006
        • 6207

        #33
        Re: "recovered" scores from saved replays

        Do you guys talk shit about me in Slack!?

        Slack THIS!!! EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


        Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
        Charu the red-nosed Snivy
        Had a very shiny nose
        And if you ever saw it
        You could even say it glows

        All of the other Snivies
        Used to laugh and call him names
        They never let poor Charu
        Join in any Snivy games

        (Click the arrow to see the rest)


        Originally posted by Vendetta21
        All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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        • _Zenith_
          Accuracy Player
          • Mar 2011
          • 4629

          #34
          Re: "recovered" scores from saved replays

          Being able to download Replays would be totally worth pursuing because not only would we have screenshots, replays would be more beneficial in not only creating milestones for ourselves, finding out where we as players could improve on certain songs, and saving a replay is faster and easier than taking a screenshot (that is if you don't use the imgur upload feature in R^3).

          Also I agree with hi19. A front page post explaining general questions or concerns about this whole thing would be very beneficial for the community and make it so a player doesn't view this thread and go "Well first it was Score Purge and now incorrect scores coming from replays, this game is ruined" rather than looking on the front page and getting a proper understanding of what is happening and the measures taken to fix the current errors that have been approached.





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          • HeZe
            FFR Veteran
            • Jul 2006
            • 556

            #35
            Re: "recovered" scores from saved replays

            Thank you so much noname for your effort in score recovering! I had a lot of really good scores missing, but after what you did, none seems to be missing!

            GOOD JOB!

            Originally posted by ilikexd
            Your strengths and weaknesses may never change, but they will still get better as you do, albeit disproportionately of course. You're bad at jumpstream, so just play jumpstream files. Play them for hours. Play ones you have to struggle to SDG, and play ones hard enough to make your hands and arms burn. Then play them some more. Then, the day after the next, play them again. If you aren't already doing this, you can't say you're stuck. Plateauing doesn't really exist, if you aren't improving it means you haven't put in the effort needed to improve, or your effort has been misapplied. It's more of a problem at really high levels, but never totally concrete.

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            • TC_Halogen
              Rhythm game specialist.
              FFR Simfile Author
              FFR Music Producer
              • Feb 2008
              • 19376

              #36
              Re: "recovered" scores from saved replays

              Originally posted by noname219
              All I know was already posted in the general channel in Slack. Replays cannot be deleted to track users that have a score registered on rates (just a preventive measure, that information is stored elsewhere apparently). I don't know how long or where we currently are with the recovery attempts.

              Imo, I think having 150? slots is more than enough but I'm not against increasing that to 200 or 300. Having an option to download your own replays would be interesting as well.

              I won't hide the fact that when I first saw that thread, I considered completely stopping the Manual Score Recovery thing. Even thinking about leaving the website at this point, I'm really disappointed by all of this. I won't do it because I do care about the community and I do care about how scoring data is treated here. Am I the only one that cares about all of this ? I'm sure devs do, but how can we know if they don't express themselves ?

              These past months, I've felt like defending staff because they are the easy target and we don't see the amount of work they have to do - only a small percentage of us kind of know what's going on behind the scenes. Gonna speak for myself there, but the amount of shit I have to manage goes completely unnoticed, and it doesn't phase me at this point because I'm used to it. But I mean, everytime someone makes a mention or thank me for the work I'm making here, goddamn it makes me feel good and that's the only reason why I'm still here. The ONLY way people are gonna take your side is when you're informing and telling the community about the stuff you're handling because how would they know ?
              As irritated as I have been with how this is going on, I will say that I've actually mentioned what you're doing and how it is incredibly commendable. Full disclosure: I considered you kinda pushy and borderline annoying (internally, never really said it until a few days ago in the process of actually complimenting you) at times, but what you are doing now is a huge service to this community, and you very much deserved to be recognized.

              The fact that you're providing more transparency than relevant staff about what has been going on in is an atrocity on their part (but good for you).

              Keep doing what you're doing.

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              • choof
                Banned
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Nov 2013
                • 8563

                #37
                Re: "recovered" scores from saved replays

                I'm not sure how I feel about the implications of relevant staff not learning from previous mistakes

                but whatever might come from an atrociously incompetent "team" of volunteers who have stated over and over just how much they don't care about this site and community, I will not be here to see it

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                • gold stinger
                  Signature Extraordinare~~
                  Event Staff
                  Game Manager
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Music Producer
                  Global Moderator
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6429

                  #38
                  Re: "recovered" scores from saved replays

                  Originally posted by noname219
                  Gonna speak for myself there, but the amount of shit I have to manage goes completely unnoticed, and it doesn't phase me at this point because I'm used to it. But I mean, every time someone makes a mention or thank me for the work I'm making here, goddamn it makes me feel good and that's the only reason why I'm still here.
                  Haven't read out the entire thread yet but just wanted to point out that there is a lot of rally for you in skype groups in wanting you to become administrator because of how much work you do. People want you to do Front Page Posts and Song of the Week uploads just because of how much time and effort you dump into the FFR Wiki, which just by itself amazes me considering that it's updated frequently every couple of hours since 2 years ago in JULY.

                  It's went from 7 articles to 3,837 articles within that time, and 95% of the work was from you, noname. Believe me when I say, if you ask for thanks & support, you're gonna get it.
                  Last edited by gold stinger; 04-24-2015, 10:57 AM.
                  Originally posted by YoshL
                  butts.


                  - Tosh 2014






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                  • TC_Halogen
                    Rhythm game specialist.
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 19376

                    #39
                    Re: "recovered" scores from saved replays

                    yet another situation where a simple status message saying that they devs are simply looking into it could be posted

                    ...but hey, transparency has never been important

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                    • TC_Halogen
                      Rhythm game specialist.
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      FFR Music Producer
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 19376

                      #40
                      Re: "recovered" scores from saved replays

                      seriously

                      get your fucking shit together, guys

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                      • rushyrulz
                        Digital Dancing!
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 12985

                        #41
                        Re: "recovered" scores from saved replays

                        Originally posted by noname219
                        Gonna speak for myself there, but the amount of shit I have to manage goes completely unnoticed, and it doesn't phase me at this point because I'm used to it. But I mean, everytime someone makes a mention or thank me for the work I'm making here, goddamn it makes me feel good and that's the only reason why I'm still here.
                        Sure, I'm in the same boat, but I enjoy doing what I do for the site. It's actually a stress reliever for me to work on projects for FFR whether it be a function of FFR Events or FFR TCG. Nobody can scoff at the amount of work you do noname. The devotion you put into FFR (wiki amongst several other things) is absolutely insane, and I commend you for that. I envy your dedication at times and wish I had more time to devote to FFR. I certainly disagree with the comment you made about your work going completely unnoticed, though .

                        This has pretty much nothing to do with the subject of this thread, but I thought I'd chime in with a reply to this post
                        Last edited by rushyrulz; 04-24-2015, 12:05 PM.


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                        • noname219
                          FFR Wiki Admin
                          • May 2007
                          • 1694

                          #42
                          Re: "recovered" scores from saved replays

                          Thanks for the support guys, was a bit salty when I made that post. I didn't really want to derail the thread but I had to get it out.

                          Originally posted by gold stinger
                          Haven't read out the entire thread yet but just wanted to point out that there is a lot of rally for you in skype groups in wanting you to become administrator because of how much work you do. People want you to do Front Page Posts and Song of the Week uploads just because of how much time and effort you dump into the FFR Wiki, which just by itself amazes me considering that it's updated frequently every couple of hours since 2 years ago in JULY.

                          It's went from 7 articles to 3,837 articles within that time, and 95% of the work was from you, noname. Believe me when I say, if you ask for thanks & support, you're gonna get it.
                          That's a bit much, a lot have to be credited to Eze which helped at various stages, especially with the song pages. And also to the many contributors since the beginning of the project.

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                          • TheSaxRunner05
                            The Doctor
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 6144

                            #43
                            Re: "recovered" scores from saved replays

                            By the way, I noticed a glitch were when there's a 0 in the Times Played column, my score didnt count for TPs. It counted towards av rank, but gave 0 TP even though it was a passing score.

                            Just pointing that out, simply playing the song again gave me the TP.


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                            • PrawnSkunk
                              Administrator
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              FFR Administrator
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 3907

                              #44
                              Re: "recovered" scores from saved replays

                              I am very frustrated that Velocity continues to work without a proper testing environment. I appreciate Velocity’s recovery effort, but his incautious actions reflect the entire development team. I have been struggling to find the energy to make this response since I learned what had happened, but I will do my best now to explain what will happen next.

                              Velocity is away attending a convention until April 27th. He plans to run a series of scripts which will remove any replay scores which should not have been recovered, and restore mistaken removals from our recent backups/caches. The ability to delete replays has been temporarily blocked until Velocity can run these scripts. The limit of 150 saved replays cannot be extended without further disrupting other parts of the site and game engine.

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                              • choof
                                Banned
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Nov 2013
                                • 8563

                                #45
                                Re: "recovered" scores from saved replays

                                yeah can you revoke velo's access to the live site so he doesnt do any more damage by being a fucking idiot

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