Ingame Song Information

[DossarLX ODI]

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Does anyone else find it funny how Fei Longer is only a 9 but Starlight is a 10?

Fei Longer is a good deal rougher overall (and those frame-fucced jacks at the end, WTF) while starlight's jacks are a lot shorter.

[bballa48]

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Does anyone else find it funny how Fei Longer is only a 9 but Starlight is a 10?

Fei Longer is a good deal rougher overall (and those frame-fucced jacks at the end, WTF) while starlight's jacks are a lot shorter.

Agreed, Fei Longer should be a 10.

Also, Variations is an FMO. This is ridiculous, that song gives me fits.

[rushyrulz]

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agree to all^

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

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So why is Gene Gadget Zone still a 9? :/
It's clearly a 10, and isn't really up for argument IMO.

Yes.

Does anyone else find it funny how Fei Longer is only a 9 but Starlight is a 10?

Fei Longer is a good deal rougher overall (and those frame-fucced jacks at the end, WTF) while starlight's jacks are a lot shorter.

I find starlight harder, but not by much.

Also, Variations is an FMO. This is ridiculous, that song gives me fits.

**** yes.

Also I suggest Thrash The Plank become an Otaku Speedvibe [Heavy] unlock at a difficulty 65 and annihilate Famouz from that list of unlocks. We also should find a song to replace Seven due to it being a 64 and not a 65. I suggest AAA if it doesn't already because it's actually harder than a good deal of the unlocks. (TGWPP4 is the one one I'd consider to be harder.)

What do you guys think?

[bmah]

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The reason why new songs haven't been added for the [heavy] unlock is because of 1) maintenance of constantly adding songs that fit the required difficulty and 2) song difficulties are a dynamic concept, i.e. they're prone to change. It's the reason why there hasn't been a token since in which a difficulty range has been applied. It's also the reason why the St. Scarhand token is only unlockable by one song, Reality.

You can argue case 1) in that a lot more 11s unlock [oni], but the numerical difficulty scale of 65 hasn't been as well-defined. In all honesty, the limited number of songs to unlock [heavy] was an unforseen consequence. You can try and vouch for more "65" songs to unlock [heavy], but I doubt the reqs will be modified.

[TC_Halogen]

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I'm entirely in agreement with Variations 2 being an FMO, but the response given to that notion was "handstream and minijacks are easy." The overall density of the file fits the FMO territory, and it's decently technical, too.

There are some people who find Guitar Sounds deceivingly difficult (and harder than Variations 2, as I do), but I think the difficulty issue lies in the framers, and not the speed of the song itself. Pattern transitions are difficult, but they aren't fast, just difficult to time. I could see Guitar Sounds has a higher 10, but Variations 2 should definitely be in the lower end of the FMO range.

EDIT:

Steps are early by 16th?
I didn't feel this, within acceptable sync as an FFR file for me.

too bad we don't have dwi for this file probably so can't fix it though.

I can transcribe it from a replay and give you an updated sync, if you'd like. In fact, I can probably handle older, properly colored files in this same manner, as well as a few songs that have sync issues and are newer (Blindfolds Aside, Red Wings Over Baron, etc).

[qqwref]

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Wait, if we want to change the sync of a song by some number of full frames, can't we do that by just changing the level-data in the swf?

[TC_Halogen]

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You'd have to change each frame of every step. Although, it wouldn't be so bad with this script that was put up for isolation files: http://www.farfallas.com/scripts/shift.php

It's probably much easier for someone like Carlos or myself to use DDream to fix the sync/offsets of certain files.

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

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The reason why new songs haven't been added for the [heavy] unlock is because of 1) maintenance of constantly adding songs that fit the required difficulty and 2) song difficulties are a dynamic concept, i.e. they're prone to change. It's the reason why there hasn't been a token since in which a difficulty range has been applied. It's also the reason why the St. Scarhand token is only unlockable by one song, Reality.

You can argue case 1) in that a lot more 11s unlock [oni], but the numerical difficulty scale of 65 hasn't been as well-defined. In all honesty, the limited number of songs to unlock [heavy] was an unforseen consequence. You can try and vouch for more "65" songs to unlock [heavy], but I doubt the reqs will be modified.

Makes sense, though I was saying to replace songs that already unlock Heavy with some harder ones, not making the list of unlock-able songs longer.

But you're right on your points by no doubt. But hey, unless they reword it they need to maintain it as best possible I think(maybe it's just me.) But I was just trying to toss an idea out.

[qqwref]

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You'd have to change each frame of every step. Although, it wouldn't be so bad with this script that was put up for isolation files: http://www.farfallas.com/scripts/shift.php

Ooh, this is pretty neat (although I don't understand what "subtract" does). Where'd you find it?

[jimerax]

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changed some difficulties according to opinions, technical/statistical parameters.

BEER, Variations, GGZ, TTMH so far.

[emulord]

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We should start estimating difficulty by saying its strictly easier/harder than (some song with similar patterns.)
For example. Yoshi's cookie is easier than Famouz (no minijacks)

Also, it seems that OMGWTFT0KEN is a 93-94. Seems harder than Revolutionary Etude.

[LJRoX]

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Max Forever is totally a 10

[rushyrulz]

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Also, it seems that OMGWTFT0KEN is a 93-94. Seems harder than Revolutionary Etude.

Nawwww

changed some difficulties according to opinions, technical/statistical parameters.

BEER, Variations, GGZ, TTMH so far.

omg tytytyty

[One Winged Angel]

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woo, FGO AAA count +1