Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Oct 16]

[yo man im awesome]

Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

aka the source of FFR the Game's problems continues to be Combo Scoring

[Rapta]

Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

Combo scoring sucks

[Kanzas]

Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

Pfft, Combo scoring.... Who needs it?

[Guest15937]

Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

I've said it before, but all these extra stats and rankings really are pretty meaningless until the game's biggest problem (combo scoring) is addressed

[noname219]

Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

Just wondering if the system take into account users that have the same number of points. For example, shadow and Dossar have both 9,430 and should be tied for 3rd place.

[Jtehanonymous]

Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

lmaoooooooo

[PrawnSkunk]

Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

Just wondering if the system take into account users that have the same number of points. For example, shadow and Dossar have both 9,430 and should be tied for 3rd place.

Skill rating is only rounded down to the nearest whole number for display on the leaderboards so it is a more palatable number. Your skill rating is a floating-point number which can only be tied if another player has the same best scores on the same difficulty songs, or by a coincidental mathematical anomaly.

[iCeCuBEz v2]

Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

yo like where did those coefficients come from

i know you accumulated data from the tourney or whatever but.....

im just curious

[rushyrulz]

Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

It's a combination of Zenith Score and the GOAT Tracker. With some modifications.

[Trumpet63]

Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

yo like where did those coefficients come from

i know you accumulated data from the tourney or whatever but.....

im just curious

The coefficients came from a polynomial regression, which is a way of fitting a curve to a set of points. The points used came from some data that Prawnskunk had that is used during division placement. It's a list of score equivalencies, like a AAA on a difficulty 38 is equivalent to 13 goods on a difficulty 45 (I just picked random numbers here).This set of information was generally agreed-upon by the division placement staff, and proved to be the simplest and most accurate way of making a formula.

[XCV]

Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

I've said it before, but all these extra stats and rankings really are pretty meaningless until the game's biggest problem (combo scoring) is addressed

For years. I don't think I've ever asked this before; is there some technical reason that combo scoring is still a thing (that is, beyond a better replacement than raw score, and the computational load of calculating it) or is it just "it's always been done this way" or an argument along those lines (not trying to strawman you guys, just talking about inertia)?

[FF_rules]

Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

So I must be a broken record because I'm sure other people have stated this earlier; Will there be a change to how certain scores are easier to get points in compared to others?

Currently my Skill rating is artificially boosted by short songs with high difficulty that has relatively easy patterns for 90% of the song and a small spike of hard notes that can be done in under 20 goods.
#1 63 party 4u "holy nite mix" v2 53.639 653 13 0 0 0
#2 56 ABCDEath 50.630 375 8 0 0 2

[Red Blaster]

Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

I got a new AAA and my skill rating dropped down a few points, I may be confused about how this works but shouldn't it only go up if that happens?

[FF_rules]

Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

I got a new AAA and my skill rating dropped down a few points, I may be confused about how this works but shouldn't it only go up if that happens?

A few people probably got better scores than you. I watched my rank go up by 2 points just reading this thread.

[Red Blaster]

Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17]

Lol my skill level is based off of other players?
That seems inaccurate as fuck.