TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

[the sun fan]

lar I hate having you as a townread
you know that, right?

[leetic]

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

He can and he did, that doesn't mean I can't/shouldn't comment on things? like huh

Yes it does, that interjection felt really pockety.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

lar I demand proof that Arp has ever been mislynched

I am like very certain they've been mislynched in final 3

If you want me to spend a bunch of time finding that game to get you to not vote them the yeah sure but seriously, I am extremely certain it's happened

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by leetic

If he wasn't so hard on Nakah Nakah wouldn't even be such a huge issue to begin with. You have to consider in that world MML doesn't exactly need to put a whole lot of effort into "distancing". Also doubt pushing me over Raeko/roundbox makes much sense in that world as (he would think) I would look bad after the Nakah flip so best to push elsewhere before the flip

what you said makes sense to me 100%
I would never do it like how lar would have done it

but I *am* correct that that is what Lar would've done, I stake freezin's werewolf career on it

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

I truly don't follow, idk how fruitful it'll be

what about that post was nakah's town meta

like why were you sure

can you please give specifics?

leetic pls

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

lar I hate having you as a townread
you know that, right?

It's ok you had regretfully made good points earlier

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by leetic

Yes it does, that interjection felt really pockety.

if you can't tell I was a bit frustrated with Nakah, and am eagerly awaiting being able to talk about Botchi instead

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by leetic

The partner is probably not you or sunfan due to how hard they have been pushing Nakah throughout the game, Raeko maybe a little debatable but the way that they have been mostly solely pushing Nakah this phase also makes me think unaligned. Arp I already explained, the nightkill doesn't make sense in that world. That leaves roundbox, for which there isn't anything suggesting that can't be a pairing.

Ah, I follow

[leetic]

At least looking at my chart, there is like a 90% chance the wolfteam includes at least one of Raeko/roundbox; MML/Arp is the only open team that has neither

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

So with no real hard scum reads all game I kind of get Leetic's point that the Subaru kill was just because the wolves liked the state of the game and decided they wanted to kill someone pretty inoffensive nd both I and Raeko fit that world view. Obviously, I think that narrows it down to Raeko as the most likely suspect by default

I guess it could be anyone though because it isn't like Subaru was hard gunning anyone. Regretfully there just isn't enough interactions to really lead elsewhere

I think it is safe to say that if it's not exactly Nakah+Leetic (Leetic trying to save himself from any heat because he knows Nakah will likely get modkilled, thus fucking over the team) then the alterantive is that the wolves haven't been getting any real heat whatsoever

So that would be what?

SunFan
Raeko
Leetic
To a lesser extent Roundbox certainly hasn't gotten what he would consider heat
I probably belong on this list too.

Lets go ahead and remove SunFan because I think the fruit situation is compelling enough to make me feel he's been targeted by wolves. Of Raeko, Roundbox and Leetic Raeko benefits the most from Subaru's death in this manner

fmpov, subaru dying makes me look good because of my terrible, awful post
rereading subaru, I found him voting leetic at the end as his handwave after unvoting Arp. in the most boring OMGUS logic, it points at leetic.

he did have you and raeko as townreads, and honestly, I think as a wolf, I'd keep the people townreading me alive for the very obvious reason of not voting me. I don't know if raeko would want to kill him knowing that.
I think if you're thinking about subaru's reads, it puts me on the lower end his reads, but like, barely

I would never kill subaru here in a million years after that post

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by roundbox

you mean the Subaru's reads? following the TWG commandment of reading the dead town?
my first read of catchup is always terrible, so I'll go back and look

Well, my conclusion mostly

Originally Posted by leetic

If he wasn't so hard on Nakah Nakah wouldn't even be such a huge issue to begin with. You have to consider in that world MML doesn't exactly need to put a whole lot of effort into "distancing". Also doubt pushing me over Raeko/roundbox makes much sense in that world as (he would think) I would look bad after the Nakah flip so best to push elsewhere before the flip

I hate to shade myself but Sun Fan is right MixMasterWolf absolutely just busses the shit out of his partners day 0 like a dipshit

Originally Posted by leetic

At least looking at my chart, there is like a 90% chance the wolfteam includes at least one of Raeko/roundbox; MML/Arp is the only open team that has neither

My issue with your chart is that you're not on it

[botchi246]

I want to highlight sunfans ideas of Arp playing differently. I think its very important to note this. So far, Im reading sunfan town.

I lean town on Leetic as well. I really like how he can dissect the game and cuts through to the good stuff. Doesnt really mince words. But in contrast to him, as i have just read his team post, i think the wolf team is different.

Roundbox and melon are town leans but i do need to reread a little more because i need to make sure they are providing quality insight.

ARP and Lar are leaning wolf for me
Not their usual play from either of them. Im agreeing with sunfan on this one. Just not agreeing with sunfan on Lar.

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Looking back, I still feel pretty good that Arp's last post were them giving up as villager and just not trying. I think if they where wolf they would have panicked a lot more.

I was only on Arp because there was just no way enough people would have gone for Nakah and the actual votes were split 5 ways. When Arp made their post I simply went to the then current competitive counterwagon because of the two, I felt better about Arp in the moment

I suppose you could claim I was wishy washy and should have stuck to my guns, AKA a Nakah vote. Don't worry, it won't happen again.



I am like 99.99999999999% always voting Nakah here this phase and if we got to fight like two year olds about it the whole time then that's probably more indicative that you're his partner then anything.

I dont like this Lar inconsistency. I guess people can change their mind, but I think Lar is usually pretty direct and sticks to their guns. Also, he mispelled were in the second sentence of this post and it makes it sound like werewolf instead of were wolf.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by roundbox

fmpov, subaru dying makes me look good because of my terrible, awful post

huh

Originally Posted by roundbox

rereading subaru, I found him voting leetic at the end as his handwave after unvoting Arp. in the most boring OMGUS logic, it points at leetic.

he did have you and raeko as townreads, and honestly, I think as a wolf, I'd keep the people townreading me alive for the very obvious reason of not voting me. I don't know if raeko would want to kill him knowing that.
I think if you're thinking about subaru's reads, it puts me on the lower end his reads, but like, barely

I would never kill subaru here in a million years after that post

This is very defensive sounding

[roundbox]

defensive of raeko?
she could definitely be pulling a fast one on me
that possibility is not outside my mind by any means

[MixMasterLar]

Botchi please

Lets do it, for old time's sake

Please bring the heat

[roundbox]

my reads in that post were in the context of subaru's death, not necessarily raeko's entire post history

[botchi246]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Botchi please

Lets do it, for old time's sake

Please bring the heat

You know how hard I smiled when I read this? You wouldnt know unless you felt my aching cheeks.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by roundbox

defensive of raeko?
she could definitely be pulling a fast one on me
that possibility is not outside my mind by any means

Of yourself

[the sun fan]

botchi
what do you know of arp's game

other than what I've said of it

like what gives you cause to agree with me on it

[roundbox]

is there a problem with being defensive