TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

[leetic]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Yeah I figured. It's absolute horseshit though, if we lose the game and haku is wolf, I swear to god I will be very very spiteful.

Even in a w!Haku world they have a partner (who would have to be thesunfan, as I explained earlier)

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

I'm done eating and committed until EOD.



Why in the holy mattress of fax would Haku do this as Town, when he knows there's a 1/3 chance that if he's killed due to PoE or whatever bullshit he has no control over, he might literally end the game for town? Think about it, we are 6 players left, if haku was vengeful spirit and was lynched, we are guaranteed to enter N1 2-2 and we lose the game instantly. There is not a single world I can imagine where he would do this. He would have been better off parking his vote on himself rather than stay as unvote. You know damn well he would have self voted if it came to it, it's haku. In fact, I'm surprised he wasn't already self-voting when talking about asking for sunfan to be unvoted, unless of course it was the holy wolf gambit

I also know this guy like he's my brother, or so I feel like. I would almost guarantee it.

ok hold on sven might be cooking

also I'm back at a computer
I know it looks like I'm playing like shit (I am I promise I am)

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by leetic

So you only have one townread?

Yes but also no. It's more like a ranking on how much troubling shit I have with other player, some I think are a bit more contentious than others, but no one is truly clean in my mind, there's just a ranking to it. It's a game of uncertainty and frankly I dunno how y'all can box each other like that.I guess I have categories like "locked scum", "potentially shady", "awkward with misplays but town" and "locked town", and right now I think there's only ara in a safe spot.

Does that make sense?

For the record aside from the mechanical shenanigans, I actually think haku would be golden

[the sun fan]

I know that sven thinks it would be me in the world but like
this really sounds like a hakuplan, and one where he just lives by virtue of being left alive by not being voted rather than one where he fake-distances from his partner

(honestly I think haku is more likely to actually vote me if we're together but I'd probably tell him not to in wolfchat? maybe this is too complicated and too much conjecture to really solidly say)

[the sun fan]

sven I know this sounds like something haku would do as scum
it is quite literally the only scummy thing I have on him this game though
you claim to have more
can you spend 10 minutes on that for me?

[MixMasterLar]

Hate then and now

Both of these are responding to the same post I made

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

That's ok I guess. For now I'm just happy you see my point. I still believe really really hard that Haku is 100% doing this shit right now, especially BECAUSE he can't be there.

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Why in the holy mattress of fax would Haku do this as Town, when he knows there's a 1/3 chance that if he's killed due to PoE or whatever bullshit he has no control over, he might literally end the game for town? Think about it, we are 6 players left, if haku was vengeful spirit and was lynched, we are guaranteed to enter N1 2-2 and we lose the game instantly. There is not a single world I can imagine where he would do this. He would have been better off parking his vote on himself rather than stay as unvote. You know damn well he would have self voted if it came to it, it's haku. In fact, I'm surprised he wasn't already self-voting when talking about asking for sunfan to be unvoted, unless of course it was the holy wolf gambit.

Glad I decided to peak again last second. This is definitely Hate trying to see what push he can get away with amd adjusting as soon as his opposition leaves

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

sven I know this sounds like something haku would do as scum
it is quite literally the only scummy thing I have on him this game though
you claim to have more
can you spend 10 minutes on that for me?

GOD THANK YOU

I love you so much.

And well, Yes I'm willing to iso him from the start of the game, scrutinizing every post, but I want to reiterate that I don't scumread him for his interactions, only this isolated situations, which set off all the alarms possible in my mind.

If you want the iso, I will go through it and try to think of it from both angle and not just build a narrative I promise. I had no flags on haku at all myself, but if you want interaction evidence, I will look into it.

[MixMasterLar]

I'm not reading the rest of the thread i reloaded, saw that and now I'm gonna pass the fuck out

[the sun fan]

fwiw the thing sven pointed out that haku didn't do, vote himself, is where I think he's really cooking

haku voting himself there would've been the most haku thing of all time

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Glad I decided to peak again last second. This is definitely Hate trying to see what push he can get away with amd adjusting as soon as his opposition leaves

What the fuck are you talking about, I don't even want to lynch you?!

I also gave you my full reads list (kinda) aren't you happy?

[Arapocalypse]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

I'm cool with ara right now! I was rather indifferent to her, but she gives me the most "I'm trying to solve town". I'm sad that she doesn't seem to follow my logic either but at least I don't get the impression that there's any protection going on, we just don't see the game the same way.

I'm typing up a response to you at the moment, sorry for the delay; just trying to ensure I word it in a way which better conveys my meaning!!!

[the sun fan]

Sven I'm mentally giggling a lot about the haku read because like
If it is right, then you caught him specifically because he didn't do some dumb bullshit that we all would've rolled our eyes at

[Hateandhatred]

I have genuinely no idea what on earth mml is talking about here, I've been pushing the haku shit nonstop and now it's about me doing it when he left when sunfan literally said "he left now we can lynch him" (it was obviously a joke though)

Like come on you're full of shit

[the sun fan]

I gave up looking for the ara post HOWEVER
The post that the post I am thinking of was referencing was about raeko's vote by voting Weiss, and someone took it as a serious vote rather than as one where rawko was probably just drunk and having fun as we now know

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

Sven I'm mentally giggling a lot about the haku read because like
If it is right, then you caught him specifically because he didn't do some dumb bullshit that we all would've rolled our eyes at

that's not really the whole basis of my point, but... yes, I guess that's not untrue. It's more the implication that there's no world where haku leaves for work without voting. That's literally it, that's inconsequential to me.

[FreezinIce]

"I think this is the correct votecount" Votecount:

thesunfan (2): Arapocalypse, leetic
leetic (1): thesunfan
Hakulyte (1): Hateandhatred
Hateandhatred (1): MixMasterLar

Not Voting: Hakulyte


EOD in 1 hour and 10 mins.

[Hateandhatred]

Wait sunfan, you said I claim to have more. What are you talking about here exactly? I don't know the context. Do you want me to iso him or are you wondering about something I said before?

[the sun fan]

this is one of the most disorganized EODs I think I've ever seen and we've got 70 more minutes
if lar and haku are both town, then it really feels like an L here

literally debating sleeping

[the sun fan]

sven this is kind of unfortunate because I think lar and haku are the only people who can confirm this, but if any of your reservations on me are over the wolfchat thing, if either of them show up before the end, ask them about whether or not FFR normally has day wolfchat

both of them know that it is almost always on

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

this is one of the most disorganized EODs I think I've ever seen and we've got 70 more minutes
if lar and haku are both town, then it really feels like an L here

literally debating sleeping

You could talk me into voting mml - and I know it's a huge meme because he literally came back to roast me over shit that never happened then dipped with his vote parked on me despite seeing that I actually have a real point against haku...

... But I would much rather vote haku and I do not see that changing. So everyone else, please... Do it the mechanical way, just this once. I know some of you don't know haku all that well, but like, it is seering just how much the patterns align