What NPS are you comfortable hitting?

[DDRNGGin]

Originally Posted by YoshL

open notepad -> trill on 2 letters with index fingers for 5 seconds (watch a clock) -> how many letters did you type -> divide by 5 = max notes per second for index

if you can hit 150 letters in 5 seconds then you can say that you can do 30 nps stream index lol

These were my actual trial results of the Notepad NPS Experiment:

1st Trial: 28.2 NPS
2nd Trial: 19.0 NPS
3rd Trial: 21.2 NPS
4th Trial: 22.6 NPS
5th Trial: 22.0 NPS

Average of 5 trials: 22.6 NPS

Through this experiment, my comfort zone is around 23-24 NPS for streams (containing no jumps, hands, or quads); however, an NPS of close to 30 was possible on index. The top limit represented the highest NPS I have ever achieved.

[Charu]

I have the power to go Super Sayain though.

[YoshL]

through the experiment, i would conclude that your comfort zone is from 18-20, because trilling as fast as you can represents the fastest that you can possibly go in index. Given that you have to read patterns and shift your hands around, your actual comfort zone will generally be less than that. you did not get an nps of 30 on index. you're basically just overestimating your prowess now lol. if you say that you've gone up to 30 nps in straight stream, you're basically at the top like, 15 players to ever play stepmania probably.

and you're not that

[Charu]

Originally Posted by YoshL

and you're not that

God damn son, I'm better than everyone. You can't say shit like this.

[DossarLX ODI]

fyi 30 NPS is 450 BPM 16th speed. At that point the stream patterns would need to be very simple to hit properly on spread.

[Tarrik]

I can comfortably hit whatever Nergal burning 1.1 from NB5 is.

[DDRNGGin]

Originally Posted by YoshL

8th note jumps is dense jumpstream. to get to 29 nps, you assume 6 notes per beat. 29 nps/6 notes per beat~ 4.83 beats per second ~ 290 bpm jumpstream

480 bpm 8th note stream is 240 bpm stream, 4 beats per second with 4 notes in a beat, which is 16 nps which is probably more reasonable

600 bpm 12ths = 450 bpm 16ths which is about 30 nps.

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check your math again because being able to sustain 290 dense jumpstream is like almost staiain levels, as is straight 450 bpm stream lol
(unless i fucked up my math too)

To be fair, I did mess up my math when originally calculating the NPS at the time. Anyways, the new calculated NPS for both 8th note jumpstreams and regular streams (Containing no jumps, hands, or quads) is about 21-23 NPS (on Index).

[Walrusizer]

Originally Posted by DDRNGGin

To be fair, I did mess up my math when originally calculating the NPS at the time. Anyways, the new calculated NPS for both 8th note jumpstreams and regular streams (Containing no jumps, hands, or quads) is about 21-23 NPS (on Index).

try vertex beta on 1.5 and if you can hit the streams than you can say you can stream 20 nps

[Rapta]

I have become pretty comfortable hitting Ultrabeatdown Supreme 1.2 (my run last night was 17 misses) but I don't know what nps or bpm it is on the faster parts.

[gold stinger]

my index is 15nps

my 2-finger 1 hand trill is 18nps

[ItsOnlyDanO]

probably like 22/23 nps
i could do more but I have no stamina, rip

[PhantomPuppy]

oh, now we're talking about trills? nope, nope. cant do those for my life. thats around 15 nps

[YoshL]

Originally Posted by DDRNGGin

To be fair, I did mess up my math when originally calculating the NPS at the time. Anyways, the new calculated NPS for both 8th note jumpstreams and regular streams (Containing no jumps, hands, or quads) is about 21-23 NPS (on Index).

Originally Posted by Walrusizer

try vertex beta on 1.5 and if you can hit the streams than you can say you can stream 20 nps

do this and get back to us on how you're still wrong lol (23 NPS stream is still 345 bpm stream which is actually vertex beta on 1.725. and those are index friendly patterns. if you can do vertex beta on 1.7, then you can say you can do 21-23 nps on index stream comfortably.)

[PhantomPuppy]

isnt vertex beta 1.5 around 22 nps?

edit: unless my math is off somehow. says max nps on vertex 1x is 15, 15*1.5=22.5.

[YoshL]

given the stream of vertex is 200 bpm, that's 200/60 for 3.333 bps, with stream at 4 notes per beat is about 13.33333 notes per second. That'd be streaming at 20 nps at 1.5. you'd need to bump up to 1.725 if you want 23 nps

[PhantomPuppy]

either way, i seriously doubt a D4 can vertex beta at 1.5... 20 nps, 23 nps, they both fall under the category of "D4 shouldn't be able to do this" lol

edit: ooh, i know, have him try shitsubou on 1.1 or 1.2. that should be around the same thing, no? oh, journey and epilouge is a pretty good measurement of streaming capabilities.

[YoshL]

the basic problem is that he doesn't know how to calculate NPS, and has no sense of what NPS he's at. given his scores, he can probably do like 14-15 nps stream, and jumpstream of like 12-13 nps. literally halve all of his original claims -> it looks like he thinks 8ths are 16ths and are calculating them that way or something dumb

[Jonlovesddr]

maybe 15
look @ me the fiffer champion

[DDRNGGin]

Originally Posted by YoshL

do this and get back to us on how you're still wrong lol (23 NPS stream is still 345 bpm stream which is actually vertex beta on 1.725. and those are index friendly patterns. if you can do vertex beta on 1.7, then you can say you can do 21-23 nps on index stream comfortably.)

Originally Posted by YoshL

the basic problem is that he doesn't know how to calculate NPS, and has no sense of what NPS he's at. given his scores, he can probably do like 14-15 nps stream, and jumpstream of like 12-13 nps. literally halve all of his original claims -> it looks like he thinks 8ths are 16ths and are calculating them that way or something dumb

Regarding my jumpstream calculations, that was actually more of the misunderstanding of the NPS chart reference. In this case, it was not stated clearly if it was just 4th and 8th note jumps in the chart, and no other notes affected the NPS, or not imo. As far as the strams (containing no jumps, hands, or quads) go, the 1st calculations was a result of calculating the definition of 1 second being longer. My current calculations of 21-23 NPS is under the assumption of short bursts (about 100 notes or less), not the comfort zone, which is about 14-17 NPS (The 17 NPS due to Purple 10g FC on regular rate). As far as skill goes, I still do not know if I am at D4 or D5 as the FFR leaderboards states that I am at high D4/borderline D5. I do truly apologize for any inconveniences.

[YoshL]

100 notes at 23 nps is 25 measures of 345 bpm

that's still a good 4 seconds of streaming, and i doubt you can pull that off at all still lol

also purple is around 15 nps in its stream, not 17, since it's at 230 bpm.

reality is about 17 nps in its stream, and you have a 171-126-22-380-272 on it. you cannot say that you can sustain 17 nps at all lmfao