TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

Which brings me to rzr's posts about not voting on D0:



This is his entry post into the game..like if you're going to vote, vote. Don't make some really strange post about how you want to vote but for some reason you're not going to. It is D0 after all, I'm not sure that anybody really takes early D0 votes as too too serious so I'm not seeing the reasoning here.



Again, mention of wanting to throw out a vote and even a target on who he would place one on, but for some reason he still doesn't do it. He mentions his philosophy of always electing to stay out of the voting if possible*, but in the last TWG, my only game experience with rzr, he tossed out votes fairly casually - even early D0 shitvotes - so I don't see where this 180° shift in how he uses his voting power is coming from. Granted, he was a wolf in the last game so if anything this would make me think maybe this is indicative of his town game?

*refer to this later below



Again mention of Round.



A wolf rush on early D0? Granted that there's only 3 wolves in this setup, you would've been the only Round vote and it's like 8 or 9 to insta I'm not seeing where this worry is springing from.



Remember the asterisk point I made earlier? If you don't allow me re-quote it for you:



and yet here he is saying that his only power is his vote, which according to the above, he's not willing to use.

So after all that discussion of placing a vote on Round, you now say that the vote wouldn't be "viable"? I also am having a hard time understanding the who not wanting someone to run with your thoughts..wouldn't that be a good thing? Isn't that the sole point of TWG altogether? Getting players to see your train of thought and to agree with it and expand upon it and rally behind it. I understand what you are trying to say here (being wary about giving out information that someone, presumably a wolf, might not have seen and then have them go back and use that as an exploit to push a lynch against a human) but I'm just not seeing the logic behind it.

This ring a bell?

[rzr]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

I don't really know. Zenith is shooting his way up there simply with his attitude about not moving his vote. There's no way he could be absolutely certain that ymia is a hit given it's a 1/13 shot and he's never played with yo man before so he's not basing this off of anything except for content in this game thus far..which only he seems to be finding major issue(s) with. This all seems like very antitown behavior.

I'd normally say James would be a good lynch here, but knowing that we have Charu waiting behind the scenes I'm not really too keen on getting rid of a slot that may end up being taken over by someone who will actually play.

I could see myself getting behind the rzr lynch. I feel like I've brought up quite a few points regarding his weird posts which he's made no response to yet despite posting in the thread multiple times.

Everyone else is really not on my radar as far as being a lynch today.

or again this, but it's the same point

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

I'd normally say James would be a good lynch here, but knowing that we have Charu waiting behind the scenes I'm not really too keen on getting rid of a slot that may end up being taken over by someone who will actually play.

now that rzr quoted this post, this is gross. so what you're saying is if james were definitely going to be inactive you'd want to get him right away on D0?

[rzr]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

This ring a bell?

I am pretty sure I have already answered everything I can about my voting strategy, and clearly have even changed it for the benefit of the doubt. I also clarified on my mentioning of roundbox several times, even when apparently nobody was asking. I also explained my comments/concern about wolf rush. Literally reading this post for the 4th time and not seeing why you're linkning me here, these are questions I've already answered you're just beating a dead horse.

Furthermore, you haven't answered my questions and redirecting to me isn't convincing me of your humanity.

[rzr]

Originally Posted by YoshL

ayyy where you at bub

[AragakiAyase]

before i go to sleep, yoshl feels oddly detached from the discussion today. also still waiting to see choof and V post something more after their content from the first 24 hours (pretty much given up on lames at this point)

[YoshL]

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

now that rzr quoted this post, this is gross. so what you're saying is if james were definitely going to be inactive you'd want to get him right away on D0?

I'm saying getting rid of inactives in D0 over a shot in the dark on a possible active human is usually the best play, however did you not see the part where I touched on Charu being here to replace him so it's not really a big deal to push in that direction? You'll notice Plop, the confirmed town, also echoes this state of mind but for some reason you decide to jump all over me for it because it helps your case or something.

[rzr]

Originally Posted by rzr

So who do you see as a bigger threat, ymia or Zenith? Do you think they are aligned?

Originally Posted by rzr

You also seem to handpick what points you want to reply to and what you don't.

Again, mention of wanting to throw out a vote and even a target on who he would place one on, but for some reason he still doesn't do it. He mentions his philosophy of always electing to stay out of the voting if possible*, but in the last TWG, my only game experience with rzr, he tossed out votes fairly casually - even early D0 shitvotes - so I don't see where this 180° shift in how he uses his voting power is coming from.
I've said this a myriad of times:

Originally Posted by rzr

I've said this 50 times, I'm trying to maintain an all-across-the-board meta, so if you can read me differently now than I am not doing my job correctly haha

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

Again mention of Round.

Originally Posted by rzr

Okay, let's see what we can break down here.
Starting where I left off, just wanna note that any suspicions I've had on roundbox earlier are temporarily quelled while I search here. I see round commenting on my non-voteliness and just wanna say this is me attempting to change my meta. I've had 3 games with you guys, the first one I was killed n1 and the next 2 I was scum. So I'm trying hard to be one across-the-board guy because it's frustrating getting lynched from "the tone of my posts." That's why I gotta create a persona or something for you guys to attach to so I don't just always seem scummy. I really don't wanna have to throw out a vote at this point because it looks like I've been convinced or I'm just "going with the flow." But this isn't about me, so moving on.

I also remember saying that it's possible if yoshL is a wolf that roundbox is his partner, but you can dig that up I'm tired as all hell right now.
Anybody else get the feeling I hit the nail on the head? I mean I could be completely barking up the wrong tree, but I don't remember my town game being half as bad as my wolf games.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

I'm saying getting rid of inactives in D0 over a shot in the dark on a possible active human is usually the best play, however did you not see the part where I touched on Charu being here to replace him so it's not really a big deal to push in that direction? You'll notice Plop, the confirmed town, also echoes this state of mind but for some reason you decide to jump all over me for it because it helps your case or something.

I did see the part about charu and I realize it lines up with what plop said. but the implication of your statement (that you'd be fine lynching an inactive if there were no replacement) isn't good

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

Since it was brought up before I'd like to say absolutely no lynching James May here. Charu is waiting offstage, so let's use our lynch power to tackle something more worthwhile. Similarly, pressure votes on him are useless...it's like banging on the door of a closed restaurant demanding they serve you food. Who will hear your cries?

[rzr]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

before i go to sleep, yoshl feels oddly detached from the discussion today. also still waiting to see choof and V post something more after their content from the first 24 hours (pretty much given up on lames at this point)

thoughts on a roundbox/yoshL team?

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by rzr

thoughts on a roundbox/yoshL team?

I'm not scumreading roundbox and I haven't looked at their interactions so no clue

[YoshL]

i <3 squarebarrel

[rzr]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I'm not scumreading roundbox and I haven't looked at their interactions so no clue

This is in regards to a minor observation I made at the start of the game where they simply seemed to be melding.

[rzr]

So who do you see as a bigger threat, ymia or Zenith? Do you think they are aligned?
So who do you see as a bigger threat, ymia or Zenith? Do you think they are aligned?
So who do you see as a bigger threat, ymia or Zenith? Do you think they are aligned?
So who do you see as a bigger threat, ymia or Zenith? Do you think they are aligned?
So who do you see as a bigger threat, ymia or Zenith? Do you think they are aligned?
So who do you see as a bigger threat, ymia or Zenith? Do you think they are aligned?
So who do you see as a bigger threat, ymia or Zenith? Do you think they are aligned?



this is towards RB btw

[rzr]

Originally Posted by rzr

This is in regards to a minor observation I made at the start of the game where they simply seemed to be melding.

both of whom have been viewing this thread for quite some time

[YoshL]

btw, you might want to clarify, whether you're asking if they're aligned with town, with wolves, with eachother, etc.

because they're both definitely aligned.

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by rzr

So who do you see as a bigger threat, ymia or Zenith? Do you think they are aligned?



this is towards RB btw

Neither is a threat from my perspective, I've still yet to see anything from ymia I'd consider scummy and Zenith..well he's just being typical Zenith. Don't get me wrong, both could easily be wolves here (not saying both of them at the same time, but that both of them could individually be) but I'm not seeing it from ymia and I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary from Zenith that would lead me to believe he's scum.

I doubt they are aligned unless they are both townies. If there's a world where they are both wolves..then I really need to re-evaluate my stance on when I think distancing/bussing should come into play because this would seem like an absolutely absurd place to be doing either.

Is your next question is going to be "who do you think is scummy then?"

[rzr]

Originally Posted by roundbox

I was thinking of the latter too, considering he hasn't played with many of the people in the current player pool. ymia is still a candidate for me, but I'm starting to teeter in favor of other lynch candidates today.

So now where are we

And thanks yosh, I'm asking Red if he thinks ymia is not a wolf does he think Zenith is one? Could they both be wolves?

[rzr]

woop ninjad