Newtown, Connecticut Elementary School Shooting

[justaguy]

Originally Posted by j-rodd123

that should be banworthy cuz blindreper is a stupid whitenoise ****** and now quit the site forever plz

ive been saying this for years but no one knew who i was talking about

[adlp]

msnbc shows more bias than foxnews does imo. i can think of a couple quick examples from the top of my head

tea partiers being branded as racists with high power rifles when the dude actually attending the rally with the rifle on his back was black, but was cut out of the shot

george zimmerman audio clip placement

romney being 'amazed' over ordering sandwiches and drinks to make him seem 'out of touch'

pretty much anything having right-of-center views is considered radical to you guys and it's just weird. foxnews is killing other MSM and talk radio with their viewers/listeners, you woulda thunk by now there would be more conservative media by now

Originally Posted by justaguy

ive been saying this for years but no one knew who i was talking about

dude be careful messing with this guy tho isnt he a CoD pro or something

[justaguy]

Originally Posted by Reach

I can't help but think the only reason this happened is because the media reliably plasters this shit all over the news for weeks with pictures of the killer to the point of glorifying the mother fucker in a sort of antagonist type of way.

I fail to see motive otherwise, mental health issues and all.

Schools shouldn't need security. I can walk freely into the elementary across the street, where I went and felt safe as a child. I'm in Canada, and maybe this has something to do with gun laws, but I have a nagging feeling it's not the whole story.

31 school shootings since columbine in the US
14 in the rest of the world

that pretty much sums up the thread guys have a good one

Originally Posted by adlp

msnbc shows more bias than foxnews does imo. i can think of a couple quick examples from the top of my head

tea partiers being branded as racists with high power rifles when the dude actually attending the rally with the rifle on his back was black, but was cut out of the shot

george zimmerman audio clip placement

romney being 'amazed' over ordering sandwiches and drinks to make him seem 'out of touch'

pretty much anything having right-of-center views is considered radical to you guys and it's just weird. foxnews is killing other MSM and talk radio with their viewers/listeners, you woulda thunk by now there would be more conservative media by now

post defending fox news dont miss this one guys

edit: sorry for triple posting it seemed like the most efficient means of posting cuz i didnt want to edit quote a bunch and use my brain. thx

seriously tho showing kids that columbine movie and the kip kinkle one and shit basically just makes the most fucked up kid in the class go "Im the real evil weasley snipes im gonna sweep snipe all the kids they dont know how difrent im ill reak havok" and then they fuckin do it cuz they saw it in a movie

edit2: Thx psychoangel691 'ppreciate it

[Reach]

I sincerely doubt they contribute all that much. No studies support that claim, and the ones that do have been found problematic. Even SCOTUS has made it pretty clear:

In my undergrad we actually covered this really extensively in one of my classes. There is a decent amount of literature on videogames and violence and very little of it supports the hypothesis that videogames contribute directly to violence among youths.

The only thing they found was that in youths that already had violent tendencies prior to the video game exposure, they could potentially exacerbate their aggression.

I guess that shouldn't be surprising. Kids that already have psychotic tendencies may respond to these types of stimuli, but they're hardly driving people to shoot up a bunch of innocent kids in a school. As your reference pointed out, they mostly increased the frequency of minor aggression, and they certainly aren't influencing the decisions made by children that are sane in the first place.

[dAnceguy117]

Originally Posted by justaguy

post defending fox news dont miss this one guys

defending it indirectly, though. shrug. msnbc and fox news are both intolerable.

[A2P]

When I heard about this, I wept. Sometimes, it's too much to think about how awful we can be...my condolences to everyone that perished today (except for the gunman himself.)

[justaguy]

morgan freeman weighin in at 400lbs

"You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.

It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single victim of Columbine? Disturbed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem."

- Morgan Freeman

[dAnceguy117]

damn. real talk.

[Reincarnate]

Great quote but not from Freeman

[justaguy]

didnt check the source just saw that shit on my fb and was like GYea dope enough to xpost

[buizel8888]

This was fucking horrible.


On another related note (apologize if anyone posted this already)

Originally Posted by Choofers

I'm not sure what to think about Middie's post.

welp


So let's change the subject. The children died because God wasn't a part of the school
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2303792.html

Related.
http://www.examiner.com/article/conn...ning-to-picket

[adlp]

he tried to buy a rifle legally and was denied. still wanted to kill, got a hold of other guns.

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/tod...08495#50208495

[psychoangel691]

So I just recently started reading some of the more recent reports on this. I found this particularly interesting:

"Dr. Carver, the medical examiner, said it appears that all the children were gunned down by the military-style rifle. Authorities said all the weapons were legally owned and registered by Nancy Lanza, the shooter's mother."

They claimed that the police found the rifle in the trunk/back of a car yesterday. So this puts me back to my question of how he got into the school with a rifle. I just feel like there's still a huge piece of this picture missing. They say he "forced" his way into the school, but shouldn't someone have noticed this and notified police immediately? I just, I don't know. Something just still feels very off with these reports and information they're giving.

Edit:Two articles mention the rifle

"All the victims of the Connecticut elementary school shooting were killed up close by multiple rifle shots, a medical examiner said."

[Reincarnate]

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

So this puts me back to my question of how he got into the school with a rifle. I just feel like there's still a huge piece of this picture missing. They say he "forced" his way into the school, but shouldn't someone have noticed this and notified police immediately? I just, I don't know. Something just still feels very off with these reports and information they're giving.

He shot his way into the school by force.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/ny...l?pagewanted=2

IMO nothing missing from the story.

[psychoangel691]

Originally Posted by Reincarnate

He shot his way into the school by force.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/ny...l?pagewanted=2

IMO nothing missing from the story.

None of the articles I read stated that. Still doesn't explain why the police said they found the rifle in the car when they were shot with it according to the medical examiner.

[Reincarnate]

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

None of the articles I read stated that. Still doesn't explain why the police said they found the rifle in the car when they were shot with it according to the medical examiner.

?????

It's just a weapon he didn't take with him

He took two pistols and a rifle into the school, left one in the car

[psychoangel691]

Originally Posted by Reincarnate

?????

It's just a weapon he didn't take with him

He took two pistols and a rifle into the school, left one in the car

Everything I've seen said he took two pistols into the school and left the rifle in the car. That's what was reported on the news here.

Edit: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1220431

"The two pistols were found inside the school and a .223-caliber Bushmaster rifle was found in the back on his mother's car in the parking lot."

[Reincarnate]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...had-4-weapons/

[Mollocephalus]

'murica

why should a elementary school have all these security checks? I've been to two elementary schools before and ANYONE could go in at any given time, and i've never though i was in a potentially dangerous situation. What kind of freedom are you US people talking about? The more shit happens, the more freedom it's being taken away from you. Do you really want a world where you are controlled in any thing you do, where there is always a camera monitoring you, where all the things you say can be recorded and used against you at any given time, where everything is closed down like in a jail?

Step by step, tragic stories such as these make it easier for the ruling class to pass orwellian laws that will limit even more your personal freedom. Being able to easily own a gun, an instrument SPECIFICALLY made to kill, harm or destroy is not a sign of freedom, rather the complete opposite.

[justaguy]

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

Everything I've seen said he took two pistols into the school and left the rifle in the car. That's what was reported on the news here.

Edit: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1220431

"The two pistols were found inside the school and a .223-caliber Bushmaster rifle was found in the back on his mother's car in the parking lot."

no offense but is this like the mystery unsolved for you he mowed down little kids why do these details even matter